if you really did think, perhaps you would have noticed i'm in an npc corp. hence, i don't live in null.

the very fact that mining the ores in null sec requires more training time is the reason null sec ores should be worth more, not just because they're in null.
just like the same way level 4 missions are worth more than level 1 missions because you have to spend more time training to fly things capable of dealing with the missions.

During my seven weeks of mining in highsec, I never got attack. That was last Oct/Nov, so thing may have changed drastically, but I have my doubts. A max yield Procurer with a tank has little chance of being attacked, if you use some OPSEC. Even if you did lose one, it can easily be replace with two hours of mining.

I can't speak for other areas... and not even with that much experience..., but in CVA space you get reds a lot. Plus questionable neutrals. I don't mine there, but I do have a toon there.

...Im not sure what point you are making here?...

Thats complete rubbish you can mine all types of ore with level 1 skills. missioning is completely different since you are right to complete the hard missions solo you need higher skills. I remember the days of sitting mining Arkonor in a hulk rigged up for max yield per cycle and did it fairly effectively with bare mining skills.

You said it right there - why should someone in high sec suffer when they spent the same amount of time training mining skills to maximise their isk/hour then someone who does it in null sec? They've spent the same amount of time training so deserves to be rewarded.

and you can fly a raven with nothing but caldari battleship II or something.

how is missioning different? need higher skills for harder missions, just like you need higher skills to mine, and refine rarer (or, "harder") ores.

but they haven't spent the same amount of time training skills. veldspar processing, for example, is a much faster train than things like arkonor processing. why shouldn't you be rewarded for spending the extra time training arkonor instead of veldspar?

Read my post again and try to make sense of it. People who spend the time training to make their isk/hour more efficient should be rewarded i say that quite clearly.

i tried but it's full of things that are just plain incorrect. my response was just correcting you.

Are you talking about "MINING" or "Reprocessing" since now you are talking about something completely different.

both, it applies to both equally.

I dont think it does since you can have someone do it for you and there are people that have "specialised" in having max processing yield. What has that got to do with null sec versus high sec?

could just, y'know read my posts and then you'd realise what this has to do with high sec and null sec.

nope

small victory for me then.

I didnt realise having a discussion on a forum was a form of pvp.

But since you claimed victory im still waiting for you to write a have decent reply.

you wouldn't be waiting if you'd read my posts. *shrug*

I read your posts and i'm asking your to use the single brain cell you have to explain what this has to do with high sec industry versus null sec.

go read my posts and find out.

LOL....

you sound like Sheldon Cooper stuck in a loop so ill leave you there since it seems completely beyond you to have a civilised discussion.

hard to do that when one party refuses to read the posts.

just saying.

you're not actually saying anything; that's the entire problem.

read my posts again and you will see that there is no problem.

i've read them, there isn't anything for the last 2 pages or so.

how long do you think we can keep this up for before some one else posts, or it gets locked, or something? i'd put isk on at least another page.

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how long do you think we can keep this up for before some one else posts, or it gets locked, or something? i'd put isk on at least another page.

Can i have my 1 ISK?

It isn't my place, but you two seem to be somewhat 'warmed up'. Perhaps let it go for a while?

I have Guinness !

Thats complete rubbish you can mine all types of ore with level 1 skills. missioning is completely different since you are right to complete the hard missions solo you need higher skills. I remember the days of sitting mining Arkonor in a hulk rigged up for max yield per cycle and did it fairly effectively with bare mining skills.

damn you.

I'll agree that it shouldn't be better by default -- but, with the right amount of effort, it should be better, and be able to cut itself off from empire -- with the exception that minerals and moongoo be exported to fund the alliances (because you still need ISK to pay off CONCORD, etc).