It's progress, though I don't think adding corpses into the formula would be a good idea, since there aren't many to begin with, and looting them is problematic. People would end up farming throwaway alts for them anyway.

One thing I would insist upon, though, is that the formula be some kind of hyperbolic function (rises quickly and then tapers off).

I absolutely am.

For a while I thought that you were an alt of someone who is metagaming this issue. Now I just think that you don't understand.

"Eve pvp will die and no one will dare to fight anymore if clones remain expensive. Subscribers will be lost and the servers will close! oh noes!!!"

I have made many mistakes while playing Eve, and lost a lot of ISK because of them. I have played very conservatively and lost a lot of ISK because of that. Those choices all have benefits and liabilities.

The game is as advertised, to come here whining about how unfair and difficult it is after playing for 100million skill points is just bizarre. What game did you think that you were playing?

I like this idea. In regards to inflation, in general, however; there's no stopping it when isk faucets are unlimited. (And frankly there's no way to get rid of unlimited isk faucets unless CCP is willing to pull isk from idle accounts and return it to the economy by some method. The only one that's obvious is strictly verboten, so I think that's here to stay.)

Then don't use it.

If you have trained up a 200M skill point character and then want to use them in a frigate... you have made a poor choice.

So you're saying that a high SP player is making a poor choice when he wants to engage in some t1 frigate pvp? You're saying that high SP players should only fly bling ships, or high SP ships? Not everyone wants to sit in a cap/supercap all day, you know?

What clones do is help to close the power gap between high SP chars and low SP ones. It reinforces the idea of specialization and keeps everyone a bit nervous about combat.

The route that CCP seems to be taking is one of removing limitations from the top of the player base and buffing the hell out of the bottom. I would rather they heavily constrain the top and buff the bottom a bit, thats not going to happen though, too many QQ players atm.

Its a poor choice to skill a frig pilot up to 150 million SP's. It was a mistake and anyone who did so is going to pay for it.

The game is as advertised, to come here whining about how unfair and difficult it is after playing for 100million skill points is just bizarre. What game did you think that you were playing?

Its a poor choice to skill a frig pilot up to 150 million SP's. It was a mistake and anyone who did so is going to pay for it.

That is a ridiculous comment. I wanna fly any and everything, just because I have a high amount of SP I shouldn't have to give up on flying smaller ships like frigates. Very poor way of looking at things.

So you're saying that a high SP player is making a poor choice when he wants to engage in some t1 frigate pvp? You're saying that high SP players should only fly bling ships, or high SP ships? Not everyone wants to sit in a cap/supercap all day, you know?

No one is whining that it's unfair...

Finally, having a high SP clone doesn't automatically make you 'better' as a lot of misconceptions seem to be propagated on this basis.

I do agree that clone costs SHOULD go up as your SP rises, but as of the current costs, they may be a tad high, but I hear CCP is making changes so we shall see what those bring.

I am not sure clone costs do 'balance' PvP in any meaningful way but, if they do... a 65M skill pinot has the same advantage a 200M skill pilot does. Why are their clone costs different?

Because developers aren't Gods, and sometimes make mistakes.

That's why we get patches every once in a while.

That's a good argument. I don't know how big of a sink clone costs are tbqh... I guess if I knew that I'd have to re-evaluate my position.

It's a poor choice if you fly frigates EXCLUSIVELY. However, most sane people would not skill up a 150mil SP frigate pilot.

Is it a poor choice if I want to have level 5 on all my t2 ship skills and yet have the option of flying cheap disposable frigates every now and again? You're saying that it SHOULD NOT BE VIABLE for a high SP character to fly a cheap disposable frigate? Is that what you're really saying?

older players make more money so the cost's of theyre living/playing/dieing should be higher .

This is a fallacy, and can only be true by incidence. There are only a few methods of making money in the game that increase in efficiency proportionally to skill points, such as mining, and high-end anomalies.

The rest of the methods usually cap out within a few million skill points. Take null ratting for example. With a combat build, you can reliably kill those rats at maybe 5-10 million skill points. That level 5 T2 gun specialty might allow the really old character to do it slightly faster, but if your newer character is focused, the difference is so small that it's insignificant.

And then you have methods like trading, scamming, ninja-salvaging, etc etc, where the only difference in moneymaking rates comes from player competency, and not skill point counts.

older players make more money so the cost's of theyre living/playing/dieing should be higher .

If a 5 day player in a t1 frigate gets (example) 1 million from missions and in a pvp battle looses 500k of it , he will have left 500k right ?
If a 5 year player in a t1 frigate gets (example) 100 millions from missions and in pvp battle looses 500k , he will have left 99.500k like 99% , he doesnt lose anything almost AT ALL .

Im not saying a veteran must lose 50 millions , but a LOT more then a new player .
Profit's grow exponentially , i mean ships dont cost 1 million 2 millions 3 millions . they cost like 500k 5 millions 50 millions 200 and so on right ?

The rewards from different activities do also grow by a LOT , so the costs should

This is a fallacy, and can only be true by incidence. There are only a few methods of making money in the game that increase in efficiency proportionally to skill points, such as mining, and high-end anomalies.

The rest of the methods usually cap out within a few million skill points. Take null ratting for example. With a combat build, you can reliably kill those rats at maybe 5-10 million skill points. That level 5 T2 gun specialty might allow the really old character to do it slightly faster, but if your newer character is focused, the difference is so small that it's insignificant.

And then you have methods like trading, scamming, ninja-salvaging, etc etc, where the only difference in moneymaking rates comes from player competency, and not skill point counts.

older players make more money so the cost's of theyre living/playing/dieing should be higher .