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Garth Pollard
Spirits of Essence
1
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:39:00 -
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Siresa Talesi wrote:
Include a reference from a respected and known English dictionary; Websters, Rogets, etc., someone whose business it actually is to set the standards of the English language.
Should be pointed out that there is no such thing as an "authority" that decides what is and is not "proper" english. All Websters et. al. do is to record how words appear to be used, and what contexts they are in, but they are by no means exhaustive and it is not their job to "set the standards" of a varied, living language, only to act as recorders and historians.
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Against ALL Authorities
74
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:43:00 -
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Garth Pollard wrote:Should be pointed out that there is no such thing as an "authority" that decides what is and is not "proper" english. I think the grammar ***** would freak if they realized they had no Furher
e: Is the term for the ruling party of the German government during WW2 really not allowed here? wtf |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
636
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:44:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Rommiee wrote:My God.....CCP, what is WRONG with you people ?
This is completely pointless and adds nothing. Why donGÇÖt you spend your time fixing stuff that is broken, and not just sit there trying to thinking up the next pointless thing to do.
FFS fix broken stuff before messing with things that DO NOT need fixing.
Jeez.
who the hell pissed in your cheerios? it probably took like 20 minutes to do this, and it has no negative impact so quit whining.
Well that's 20 minutes they could have spent fixing broken stuff, not doing pointless **** like this. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1128
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:29:00 -
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I'm very happy with the changes now.
I'm actually ok with Armor Layering as it suggests that unnecessary thickness is removed where it isn't needed. Armor honeycombing also makes sense from the point of view that Armor would be voided internally to save weight - this term is probably less appropriate and confusing to some people. |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
129
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Posted - 2013.08.09 10:58:00 -
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Because to layer stuff means taking a bit off of a stack, right. When I put on an additional layer of clothing I am actually stripping.
Yes, very good. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Against ALL Authorities
77
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:00:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote: When I put on an additional layer of clothing I am actually stripping.
Yes, very good.
*pulls out dollars |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1128
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:37:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote: Because to layer stuff means taking a bit off of a stack, right. When I put on an additional layer of clothing I am actually stripping.
Yes, very good.
Presumably you know which layers to take off if you're too hot? |
Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:42:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Electronic Warfare Systems: is the old GÇ£electronicsGÇ¥ group. Now only contains offense EW related skills. fixd.
If the group only has EW related skills the name should reflect that since you are trying to make the naming more obvious and whatnot. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:24:00 -
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Tlat Ij wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:Electronic Warfare Systems: is the old GÇ£electronicsGÇ¥ group. Now only contains offense EW related skills. fixd. If the group only has EW related skills the name should reflect that since you are trying to make the naming more obvious and whatnot.
You look like you're from East Hull. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
307
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Posted - 2013.08.10 08:06:00 -
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Armour honeycombing is better though as it implies fitting armour with the plates interiors hollowed out to lighten it whilst retaining strength. Layering conveys the opposite. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Emiko P'eng
51
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Posted - 2013.08.10 19:27:00 -
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Overall:
Honeycomb Armour is an Internationally recognised term. That covers a whole multitude of composite armours that are both light weight and strong. While Armour Layering sounds like you are adding armour!
Also I agree withe the earlier comment that Electronic Warfare Systems is better than Electronic System. |
B33R
Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.08.12 02:09:00 -
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Is the Primary and Secondary attributes going to change (or matchup or whatever) when you change the names and locations? because if so i want some additional remaps... |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2241
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Posted - 2013.08.12 03:24:00 -
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CCP, ALL of these name changes are 100% pointless and arbitrary. Please spend time on things that are actually beneficial. |
Creca
O.Z. Prizon
10
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:22:00 -
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Put Salvaging in Scanning group please. Since is more connected to scanning/exploration thing than to industry. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
266
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:57:00 -
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Hull Upgrades and Remote Hull Repair Systems in Armor category?
Could they\would they not be better suited to a Structure\Hull category? What about standardising the name to Remote Structure Repair as Hull?
Just logged onto SiSi to test 1.1 and had this to feedback. Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Abishai
103
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:22:00 -
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"Capacitor Emission Systems"
Jettisoning capacitors will surely damage my shipGÇÖs computers. Can I emit the energy from them instead?
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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
267
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:19:00 -
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Targeting Skill Group:
Gravimetric Sensor Compensation? Ladar Sensor Compensation?
In targeting? Wouldn't these be better placed in Electronic Systems or in a New Group:
"Electronic Counter Systems" or "Electronic Counter-Warfare (Systems)" or "Electronic Counter-Warfare Systems"
Along with a group called:
"Electronic Warfare Systems" Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
267
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:29:00 -
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Can't you just "Sub-Group" all skills and make them into a more "Top Level"\logical ordering?
"Electronic Systems" > -------------------------------Electronic Systems > -------------------------------Electronic Warfare > -------------------------------Electronic Reinforcement > ----------------------------------------------------------------------LADAR Compensation
"Weapons Systems" > -------------------------------Gunnery > -------------------------------Missiles > ----------------------------------------------Cruise Missiles > ----------------------------------------------------------------------Cruise Missile Specialisation --------------------------------------------- Heavy Missiles > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Heavy Missile Specialisation -------------------------------Disruption > ------------------------------------------------Weapon Disruption Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
267
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:48:00 -
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What about adding an option to Character Sheet > Skills > Settings to "Hide Level 5 Skills" a bit like the "Show All Skills" options?
This would remove some of the scrolling required for those with lots of Level 5\Maxed Skills? Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Rob Crowley
State War Academy
122
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Posted - 2013.08.12 20:38:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Energy Management, Energy Emission Systems and Energy Systems Operation: have been renamed "Capacitor Management", "Capacitor Emission Systems" and "Capacitor Systems Operation". I just noticed on SiSi that the Capital Energy Emission Systems skill is unchanged and not consistent with the new naming. Though I have to say I like Energy Emission better, cause energy is what you're actually emitting. |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3953
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:39:00 -
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Time to decide on the colour of the bike shed!
Armor: the "armor layering" vs "armor honeycombing" skill discussion doesn't take into account hair dressing. As any hair dresser knows, you can reduce the bulk of hairdo by "layering" which means reducing the amount of hair present at lower or higher strata. Thus a hair dresser knows exactly what "armor layering" means: you chop away the bits that are too bulky and don't add to the value of the armor plating job. Outdoor sports people also know about layering: it means that you refine just how much you wear to suit the conditions.
Electronic System: Since this group is the Electronic Warfare set of skills, why not call it "Electronic Warfare"? Rename the "Electronic Warfare" skill to "Target Jamming" since that's the set of modules that it interacts with. I'd like to see "ECM" removed from the places where it is redundant: "ECM Target Jamming" should just be "Target Jamming" or "Electronic Counter Measures".
Engineering: Rename "Energy Grid Upgrades" to "Engineering Upgrades" - power diagnostic systems are energy grid upgrades, but they impact shields.
Production: Consider renaming "Industry" to "Material Efficiency".
Resource Processing: these are a mix of harvesting and processing skills. Perhaps "Resource Extraction" might help, since you do need a mixture of the harvesting and processing skills to operate T2 mining lasers and crystals. Ice Harvesting, Gas Cloud Harvesting, Mining and Astrogeology do not relate to "processing" but they do relate to "extraction".
Scanning: what about "Exploration" since that's the career path that these skills support? The hacking minigame is not scanning, neither is it related to scanning (Astrometrics and Survey skills have no impact on the outcome of a hacking mini-game, other than finding the game in the first place).
Overall, a well thought-out set of changes to the skill tree nomenclature. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3953
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:41:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:Energy Management, Energy Emission Systems and Energy Systems Operation: have been renamed "Capacitor Management", "Capacitor Emission Systems" and "Capacitor Systems Operation". I just noticed on SiSi that the Capital Energy Emission Systems skill is unchanged and not consistent with the new naming. Though I have to say I like Energy Emission better, cause energy is what you're actually emitting.
I concur: better names would be "Energy Emission Systems" or "Capacitor Transfer Systems". Since CCP wants to have the name of the skill (and the equipment tree) reflect the attribute of the target that you are impacting, I'd prefer "Capacitor Transfer Systems".
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Vassal Zeren
Uncontrollable Innovations
73
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:56:00 -
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I vote for keeping the old "missile launcher operation" just like you are keeping spaceship command. Really, do I want missiles, or do I want to OPERATE (Hell Yes) Missile Launchers! The latter defiantly sounds cooler. A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver. |
jeproghnem
Sacred Skies
0
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:34:00 -
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I like it, it all sounds good, except for one thing, which is kinda bothering me, namely:
energy emission systems should be left alone (don't change it to capacitor emission systems), as you do not emit your energy storage, your superconducting battery does not get thrown into the other guy's ship, you send the capacitor's charge into the other ship. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4521
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Posted - 2013.08.13 07:58:00 -
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Please Use the Electronic Warfare Systems as a skill group or Electronic Warfare,
Its how the US Navy separates things that things that involve sensory deprivation have little to do with the rest of the craft's electronics outside of feeding it power.
Electronics themselves are more into the control of the craft via electrical signals. Ie Push Joystick go forward is electronics at work. Where as Radio dish counter matches beamed frequency is a electronic warfare art. Dust 514's CPM 0 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.-á |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
51358
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Posted - 2013.08.13 11:52:00 -
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All good but I share Nova Fox's feelings about the EWS skill group.
As others have mentioned, Armour Honeycombing is a more practical name than layering. To me layering suggests adding weight rather than removing it which is what honeycombing would do.
Still, it looks good on sisi and makes a lot of sense. After 7 years of EVE it took all of 2 minutes to get used to it... so hopefully there will not be screams of rage and much gnashing of teeth. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Soporo
35
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:50:00 -
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Quote:Another thumbs down on Spaceship command new name. Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |
Rich Uncle PennyBags
EVE Online Monopoly
13
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:23:00 -
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Soporo wrote:Quote:Another thumbs down on Spaceship command new name.
Adding my support.
Keep Spaceship Command. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1180
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:33:00 -
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Agree that it should be Electronic Warfare Systems.
(Electronic Systems confusingly suggests that the hardware installed in the ship to help it function) |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1180
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:42:00 -
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Rich Uncle PennyBags wrote:Soporo wrote:Quote:Another thumbs down on Spaceship command new name. Adding my support. Keep Spaceship Command.
It is Spaceship Command for 'now' rather than Spaceship Piloting.
I agree (with Fox & others) that is should stay as spaceship command as the skills affect much more than, 'how to pilot a particular type of spaceship'. These skills have bonuses for weapon damage & rof, agility & velocity, cargo capacity, tank hitpoints, etc. etc. In fact the bonuses that kick in from these skills truly make a capsuleer a commander of their starship rather than merely the driver! |
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