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Karl Stranne
Hollow And Naught But Ash
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:53:00 -
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Keep Spaceship Command and Armor Honeycombing. They make sense and sound cool (which is what it's all about).
Other than that, good stuff. |

Yaturi
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:11:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Rigging: has all the skills related to rigs that previously were in the GÇ£MechanicsGÇ¥ skill group.
Contains the Armor Rigging, Astronautics Rigging, Drone Rigging, Electronic Superiority Rigging, Energy Weapon Rigging,Gallente Defensive Systems, Hybrid Weapon Rigging, Jury Rigging, Launcher Rigging, Projectile Weapon Rigging and Shield Rigging skills.
( pâ+pü+pâ+ ) |

DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
25
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:19:00 -
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Edward Olmops wrote:A few comments.
CCP should really make an effort to make EVE more beginner-friendly, no doubt. Some skills like Multitasking and Nanite Control ought to be renamed, because the name is utterly misleading. But.
You are going way to far with this concept.
As many before me have already stated, many of the proposed name changes are uninspiring. Space Ship Command should really be spaceship command. Really, what's the point?
Also: Every name change that you do also has a NEGATIVE impact on the playability. Simply because all ressources on the web will be outdated. I have experienced that over and over again with previous renamings (e.g. Auto-Targeting Missiles). Maybe a newbie didn't get what a F.O.F. missile was. But a newbie with some minimum cleverness managed to throw that expression into Google and whoa - here we go. But try to find something if the name has changed during the last two years... I am really sad about what happened (not) to Evelopedia. I used that A LOT, that was one of my primary ressources when I was a noob. But now it's utterly useless, because each and every single ship and item has been rebalanced. That should of course not imply that you stop rebalancing because of Evelopedia - God forbid! But it shows the effect. There should be only things renamed when it'S REALLY necessary. And maybe it would also be noob-friendly to update Evelopedia.
That said, I for example always thought it was good that some skills (Electronics, Engineering, Social...) had the same name as their category. That way I would always know which one was the "basic" skill in the category which I needed to train first. The one that has the most impact on what I was doing. Compare Electronics (+5% CPU) to Target Breaker Amplification (+?% weird nonsense). Anything that makes it more likely that new players put their energy into the important skills to let them get into the game faster is a good thing. Either keep Spaceship Command as is... or rename it Piloting. Listen to the logic.
IMHO, a majority of this game is the learning curve. With that in mind, I suggest you build an Odyssey 1.1 Evelopedia prior to 1.1 going live. Test it. I mean actual testing. You guys do know what that entails, right? |

Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
50
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:47:00 -
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I think " Electronic System " ( Singular ) should be " Electronic Systems " ( Plural ) since the group has skills that effect more than 1 electronic system.
The same goes for the group " Mechanic " which should be " Mechanics "
Poor Chribba is gonna have his work cut out updating Eveboard after these changes |

Garth Pollard
Spirits of Essence
1
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Posted - 2013.08.15 02:07:00 -
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Amateratsu wrote:Poor Chribba is gonna have his work cut out updating Eveboard after these changes 
Naah, Chribba strikes me as a halfway decent programmer, so I doubt he did something so foolish as to hardcode names on everything.
....right?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9183
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:21:00 -
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Garth Pollard wrote:Amateratsu wrote:Poor Chribba is gonna have his work cut out updating Eveboard after these changes  Naah, Chribba strikes me as a halfway decent programmer, so I doubt he did something so foolish as to hardcode names on everything. ....right? Most is indeed import the dump, run a few scripts and it's pretty much up to date 
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Treborr MintingtonJr
The Knights of Spamalot The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.15 14:30:00 -
[577] - Quote
I need a 'Project Management' skill please |

Frenjo Borkstar
EVE Corporation 98237921
0
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:36:00 -
[578] - Quote
In response to the last CCP post, it's not that we're "stuck to an old andoutdated interface" it's that the current interface is fine, and the playerbase doesn't want It changed. |

Randey Miromme
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 12:08:00 -
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I have not read all the posts in this thread but I really hope this is some kind of lame joke. To me it sounds like you are dumbing down.... Next thing you know you will have the ability to use animals from the south pole as your avatar.
Please reconsider.... |

Thexx Littlechurch
Black Whole Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:54:00 -
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Change the groupings. Move Thermodynamics and Weapon Upgrades to Engineering etc. Thats a good idea.
DO NOT chage the names of the skills! Thats a bad idea. Stop dumbing this game down. We play this game because its the only complicated MMO left out there. It's really starting to worry me CCP.
Please?
FFS anyone who would come to EVE and stay because the skills are easy to remember is just going to quit when they get owned/scammed repeatedly anyway. These are the people that try the game and ragequit because its "too hard" or my favorite "it's boring". When they say "it's boring" that's poseur-gamer speak for "I don't understand".
MAKE OUR GAME HARDER NOT EASIER.
Maybe I should just go back to tabletop gaming....  |
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Barzhad
Hoplite Brigade White-Lotus
0
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:28:00 -
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Can we pretty please have Neurotoxin Recovery and Nanite Control skills properly explain what they do AND how much percent of the effect they give? why can't descriptions be like nowaday's T1 frigs and cruisers: concrete traits and only then flavor text?!? |

Barzhad
Hoplite Brigade White-Lotus
0
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:31:00 -
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Thexx Littlechurch wrote:Change the groupings. Move Thermodynamics and Weapon Upgrades to Engineering etc. Thats a good idea. DO NOT chage the names of the skills! Thats a bad idea. Stop dumbing this game down. We play this game because its the only complicated MMO left out there. It's really starting to worry me CCP. Please? FFS anyone who would come to EVE and stay because the skills are easy to remember is just going to quit when they get owned/scammed repeatedly anyway. These are the people that try the game and ragequit because its "too hard" or my favorite "it's boring". When they say "it's boring" that's poseur-gamer speak for "I don't understand". MAKE OUR GAME HARDER NOT EASIER. Maybe I should just go back to tabletop gaming....  That's one stupid argument. so people wouldn't have to google the recommended list of skills is gonna make them sob when they make mistakes? sure..
all the changes looks perfectly good to me. finally Science won't be the dumping ground for every new uncategorized skill. |

Ben Fenix
CapStream
17
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:11:00 -
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Looking at the current build on SISI "Target Navigation Prediction" and "Guided Missile Precision" are also still not fixed. POST
Besides that - with all the issues the players bring up in this thread it seems that the whole skill renaming was just barely being looked at with the necessary sense for detail. I'd really like to see this whole thing being done completely and not just half-baked. So that it is done once and for all instead of the player always to be remembered that this whole renaming thing will come up again and again because the details where skipped in the first place. CapStream Because Cap Is Life |

Mournful Conciousness
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
166
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:44:00 -
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Spaceship piloting - no. It's really childish, and bad English. Spaceship Command - yes Starship Command - yes
Weapons Upgrades and Advanced Weapons Upgrades is a tricky one. It's not engineering, it's weaponry. But it affects both missiles and guns. Unfortunately there are no other "weaponry" skills you can lump into a new category to make that work in a satisfactory way. Probably best left where it is.
In general, my user experience is that the categorisation of skills has never been an issue that has caused me any confusion or complication within the game. With the greatest respect, in my view it's not a good use of developer time to tinker with it.
Fixing certificates in a way I mentioned in this post probably is:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3507856#post3507856
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Xola Zuni
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2013.08.20 10:28:00 -
[585] - Quote
Please let us keep "Armor Honeycombing". Coolest skill name (directly followed by "Spaceship Command"). |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
323
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:59:00 -
[586] - Quote
Well I've discovered why they were so keen on starship piloting!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=270956&find=unread
Eve Valkyrie is coming.
The feedback about this has been really good, but I'm a bit worried as to how it will integrate with the rest of the eve universe and have other questions such as 'will there be a PC client' or is this yet another 'console only' affair.
Can we have an official dev response on this please. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Garth Pollard
Spirits of Essence
1
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:42:00 -
[587] - Quote
> game based entirely around use of the Occulus Rift > wants to know if it's console-exclusive
Also in the announcement interview they said that it won't tie /directly/ into EVE, not like DUST. |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
486
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Posted - 2013.08.21 09:31:00 -
[588] - Quote
Awaiting for following changes:
"Gunnery" into "Gun damaging" "Rapid fire" into "Gun shooting" "Motion prediction" into "Gun hitting"
Will be well in line with name changes made by CCP last year. And hey, less confusing for newbros!1
P. S. Okay, some were good. |

Kenny Drein
Big Shadows Initiative Mercenaries
1
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Posted - 2013.08.22 01:10:00 -
[589] - Quote
CCP Ytterbium wrote: Rigging: has all the skills related to rigs that previously were in the GÇ£MechanicsGÇ¥ skill group.
Contains the Armor Rigging, Astronautics Rigging, Drone Rigging, Electronic Superiority Rigging, Energy Weapon Rigging, Gallente Defensive Systems, Hybrid Weapon Rigging, Jury Rigging, Launcher Rigging, Projectile Weapon Rigging and Shield Rigging skills.
Wait what? I do hope this is a typo, otherwise I'd have to call you people racists, preferring Gallente over the others ;) |

Smelly PirateWhore
Reikoku The Retirement Club
6
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:23:00 -
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"If there's one thing that's always bothered me about EVE online, it's the names of the skills"
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Mournful Conciousness
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
192
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:43:00 -
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I felt so enraged by some of these name changes that I had to repeat this here (also posted as a side-comment in the command ships thread):
I spend hours of my life living in the scientific wonderland of Eve and now they're giving all my stuff play-school names?
Spaceship Piloting? A pilot is a noun. It's a ship or light for providing guidance. It's not a verb. The verb is "command", "control", "guide", "operate", even "fly". It should be "starship command" or "spaceship (at a push) command".
"Capacitor Transferer"? Do me a favour and f*ck right off! "Energy Transfer Array" is the correct name.
Maybe we'd like to rename the projectile weapons to "Bullet Transferrers", or the Laser weapons to "Light shiners", or maybe tractor beams could be renamed "Wreck puller thingies". Yes, let's rename missile launchers to "things what chuck out other things that go BANG!".
Someone in CCP needs to take a long, hard shamefaced look in the mirror, and then pick up a book and educate themselves.
Out-f*cking-rageous!
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
323
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:18:00 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote:I felt so enraged by some of these name changes that I had to repeat this here (also posted as a side-comment in the command ships thread):
I spend hours of my life living in the scientific wonderland of Eve and now they're giving all my stuff play-school names?
Spaceship Piloting? A pilot is a noun. It's a ship or light for providing guidance. It's not a verb. The verb is "command", "control", "guide", "operate", even "fly". It should be "starship command" or "spaceship (at a push) command".
"Capacitor Transferer"? Do me a favour and f*ck right off! "Energy Transfer Array" is the correct name.
Maybe we'd like to rename the projectile weapons to "Bullet Transferrers", or the Laser weapons to "Light shiners", or maybe tractor beams could be renamed "Wreck puller thingies". Yes, let's rename missile launchers to "things what chuck out other things that go BANG!".
Someone in CCP needs to take a long, hard shamefaced look in the mirror, and then pick up a book and educate themselves.
Out-f*cking-rageous!
+10
Dude if I could click the like button more than once I would. Cold -Gas, Arc Jet Thrusters forever... No to more dumbing down! Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Stjaerna Ramundson
Unknown Dimension Alpha Volley Union
44
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:37:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:[...] [...]
- Energy Management, Energy Emission Systems and Energy Systems Operation: have been renamed "Capacitor Management", "Capacitor Emission Systems" and "Capacitor Systems Operation".
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Don't forget to rename the Implants too, please. :) (So they are easer found, cause of the name) 1. Eigenen Beitrag mit sachliche Argumentationen, Problemschilderung, Erkl+ñrung, L+¦sungsans+ñtzen formulieren. 2. Beitrag enth+ñlt eine eigene Meinung im Fazit zum Thema. 3. Negative +äu+ƒerungen, Drohungen usw. gegen++ber Nutzern haben in der Meinung nichts zu suchen. |

Hell Bitch
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.08.23 08:47:00 -
[594] - Quote
Mournful Conciousness wrote:I felt so enraged by some of these name changes that I had to repeat this here (also posted as a side-comment in the command ships thread):
I spend hours of my life living in the scientific wonderland of Eve and now they're giving all my stuff play-school names?
Spaceship Piloting? A pilot is a noun. It's a ship or light for providing guidance. It's not a verb. The verb is "command", "control", "guide", "operate", even "fly". It should be "starship command" or "spaceship (at a push) command".
"Capacitor Transferer"? Do me a favour and f*ck right off! "Energy Transfer Array" is the correct name.
Maybe we'd like to rename the projectile weapons to "Bullet Transferrers", or the Laser weapons to "Light shiners", or maybe tractor beams could be renamed "Wreck puller thingies". Yes, let's rename missile launchers to "things what chuck out other things that go BANG!".
Someone in CCP needs to take a long, hard shamefaced look in the mirror, and then pick up a book and educate themselves.
Out-f*cking-rageous!
Whilst skill names have never bothered me before I must agree with Mournful here, as an electronics engineer it really winds me the **** up to see capacitor transfer, wtf, does that invlove decoupling my own ships capacitor and then throwing it out the hold of my ship so a buddy can haul it in and plug it into his ship?
HELL NO - when i give someone a jump start I transfer electric energy from my cars battery, not transfer capacitors
Can we re-name informorph psychology to clone transfer, mining to rock transfer and contracting to stuff transfer please?
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DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
25
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Posted - 2013.08.24 06:05:00 -
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Ben Fenix wrote:Solhild wrote:I like the thinking here, not happy with the word 'densify'. Not sure of an alternative solution yet. Yeah me neither. That's due to the fact that English isn't my mother tongue but it was the closest I could come up with.  Would Explosion Radius Density work? |

DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
25
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Posted - 2013.08.24 06:21:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Mournful Conciousness wrote:I felt so enraged by some of these name changes that I had to repeat this here (also posted as a side-comment in the command ships thread):
I spend hours of my life living in the scientific wonderland of Eve and now they're giving all my stuff play-school names?
Spaceship Piloting? A pilot is a noun. It's a ship or light for providing guidance. It's not a verb. The verb is "command", "control", "guide", "operate", even "fly". It should be "starship command" or "spaceship (at a push) command".
"Capacitor Transferer"? Do me a favour and f*ck right off! "Energy Transfer Array" is the correct name.
Maybe we'd like to rename the projectile weapons to "Bullet Transferrers", or the Laser weapons to "Light shiners", or maybe tractor beams could be renamed "Wreck puller thingies". Yes, let's rename missile launchers to "things what chuck out other things that go BANG!".
Someone in CCP needs to take a long, hard shamefaced look in the mirror, and then pick up a book and educate themselves.
Out-f*cking-rageous!
+10 Dude if I could click the like button more than once I would. Cold -Gas, Arc Jet Thrusters forever... No to more dumbing down! I think everyone may want to consider CCP is based in Iceland, and these guys are doing fairly well with English under the circumstances. Though it would be nice to inject a bit more common sense into a producer's mind allow them to just keep these name changes simple, the voice of reason may be trumped by other things. Or maybe they just need moar Quafe (pronounced cawfee? lol). |

Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
143
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Posted - 2013.08.25 10:14:00 -
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And using CCP resourses to organize skills is needed because there are other parts of the game aren't broken anymore?
All this seems abit silly but ok. |

Thexx Littlechurch
Black Whole Industries
7
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Posted - 2013.08.26 22:09:00 -
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Barzhad wrote:Thexx Littlechurch wrote:Change the groupings. Move Thermodynamics and Weapon Upgrades to Engineering etc. Thats a good idea. DO NOT chage the names of the skills! Thats a bad idea. Stop dumbing this game down. We play this game because its the only complicated MMO left out there. It's really starting to worry me CCP. Please? FFS anyone who would come to EVE and stay because the skills are easy to remember is just going to quit when they get owned/scammed repeatedly anyway. These are the people that try the game and ragequit because its "too hard" or my favorite "it's boring". When they say "it's boring" that's poseur-gamer speak for "I don't understand". MAKE OUR GAME HARDER NOT EASIER. Maybe I should just go back to tabletop gaming....  That's one stupid argument. so people wouldn't have to google the recommended list of skills is gonna make them sob when they make mistakes? sure..all the changes looks perfectly good to me. finally Science won't be the dumping ground for every new uncategorized skill.
No.
That's one stupid arguement. At least it would be if it was coherent. |

Sylvous
Bigger than Jesus
122
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Posted - 2013.08.28 21:48:00 -
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Couldn't engineering and electronics keep their current skill names? |

Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:58:00 -
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As hundreds of people have said, it doesn't need fixing, it isn't broken. CCP should really start working on aspects of the game which are broken, and not trivial things such as skill names. This may be one of the updates that will actually stop me playing Eve.
Possible CCP Responses:
"It's just because people are stuck to an old and outdated interface." - No, it's not an old and outdated interface, it's just people don't want it changed.
"The playerbase is stuck to it as it hasn't been changed in a while, if ever." - No, we're not stuck to it, it's just that we're happy with what we've got and we don't want it changed. Simple.
(Those are all that I could think of.)
+1 if you don't want anything changed. |
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