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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.01.21 01:40:00 -
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EVE-Central Cross Region Market Browser and Trade Finder
Since this is a topic which is more suited to the Market forum, I'm going to move my update thread here (from the spaminess that is General).
Updated 1/20/2006 - Cargo sizes work properly - The tradefinder is useable in the IGB. Rejoice. - No more large QuickLook pages crashing your EVE client. The IGB view has been limited to 25 orders for Buy and Sell each.
EVE-Central.com has a cross-region market browser fed with many user submissions. We aggregate all of the market data from users running the simple, open-source MarketUploader client on their systems to present a global view of how the market is doing. In addition to the simple viewing tools (and the soon to come historical statistics - statistics are fun :)), we now have a trade route finder which works across regions. It now knows about cargo sizes (new feature), data freshness, profit, and even works in the In Game Browser (many new enhancements have been made to support that rather rickety platform just today). It doesn't understand Jumps yet, but I have the dataset to import which I'll get around to this weekend.
Check it out today, and contribute to this great data source!
I'm thinking about making historical market data dumps available for download on a regular basis as well if there is any interest. I'm sure some people here would like to run their own analysis on the aggregated data.
- Kaladr ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
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Elysia Callahan
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Posted - 2006.01.21 03:00:00 -
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Hmm, it doesn't actually work for me in the IGB. Once I enter 2 systems in to the trade finder and select "search and display", I get "URL Error" "HTTP Error 403: Forbidden"
now, I'm new to the game, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. I added the site to the trusted sites, but that didn't fix it. Am I doing something wrong?
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.01.21 07:47:00 -
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When you see a URL in the IGB, and it ends in a / (such as /home/market/), replace the / with .html (so /home/market.html)
The IGB loves adding the /. I'll look for where this issue occurs... (its annoying) ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
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Selyia Hrafnfaedir
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Posted - 2006.01.21 16:54:00 -
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Hmm, that still hasn't done it for me.
My bookmark is "http://eve-central.com/home/tradefind.html"
and my trusted site entry is the same.
With this, I can't search 2 systems, although it lets me get one step further and search 2 domains, although after I confirm the selections, it just gives me a blank page.
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.01.24 08:44:00 -
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I've fixed yet another IGB issue which arose during certain navigation paths through the site.
I've also made the filter values 'sticky' per browser session (so don't have to refilter for size, etc). And by popular request, the number of entries per page is selectable now as well.
---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
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Harik A'ttar
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Posted - 2006.01.25 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Harik A''ttar on 25/01/2006 07:04:52 Search for 'ECM', it seems broken. Not sure what's wrong, and I think it happens for some other module names as well. ECM is the only one I can remember off the top of my head.
By broken, I mean This search returns 13 entries for modules named only 'ECM'. It may be the "ECM - Ion Field Projector 1" that's confusing it, but I don't know. The DB seems to know the difference between the itemIDs.
Yeah, I think it should be an easy fix, it's because the filename is "Syndicate - ECM - Multispectral Jammer I - 2006.01.25 064707.txt" so that extra space dash space may be screwing up your parser. ECCM has the same problem.
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.01.25 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Kaladr on 25/01/2006 08:01:38 What problems?
Fixed. I was using the item name in the past to do the upload, but since the RMR data has been released, I'm no longer depending on the upload name. And yes the parser was messed up. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.01.28 00:36:00 -
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I now have a full table of distances between systems, which I will be adding this weekend. I'm also adding system to region searches. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2006.01.28 07:00:00 -
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Just wanted to say this is absolutely fantastic. I haven't run into any bugs yet, and it's done an awesome job helping me find profitable trade routes in my region. THe concept is badass.
I would just like to suggest that more controls be added so we can get more specific in how our traderoutes are displayed and add more conditions. ALso, a friendlier interface is really needed.
I am pretty good with flash, if flash is capable of sending commands to your server the way your current links work. Would be nice for the interface to look more streamlined and attractive.
Also, it would be very useful to add some chart / graphing options that pull market history, or even compare trade route options. Graphs such as 'ISK per jump' for the top 5 displayed trade routes, for instance, would be great. Flash can definitely do that if such data can be pulled to the client.
Again, great utility and great concept. Keep it up!
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Adilette
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:16:00 -
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Agreed - this is a fantastic concept. Everybody keep this thread alive and keep on feeding the DB with your market export uploads.
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Ramjam Blackbetty
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Posted - 2006.02.01 09:30:00 -
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Great little program/website!
Now I just gotta remember to hit that Export button everytime I view market details.
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Adrastos Volos
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:17:00 -
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This is a great tool!
Having the distances from system to system will be a great addition to this!
Thanks for your hard work on this!
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:18:00 -
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Please consider adding multiple features such as 'isk per jump', and 'region to system', and 'range bubbles' which restrict analysis to a specific number of jumps away from the start system.
For example, I am in Sarum. I am willing to pick up stuff within 4 jumps from there, and carry it up to 10 jumps away. I should be able to plug those factors and get suggestions from that.
Also, a jump maximum restriction instead of a region restriction would be great. If I am on the edge of a region, I want to consider trips in both regions.
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Hatok
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Posted - 2006.02.04 09:32:00 -
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the site seems to be down.
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Tanga Nusca
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Posted - 2006.02.04 11:02:00 -
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The tool is awesome, I do expect a problem though. There will be many more people looking for info than contributing info, resulting in the few potentially profitable routes that come up to be oversaturated.
Since supply and demand is limited for the most part, sharing market info may not be in the interest of those who have it. -- You can't take the sky from me. |
Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.05 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kaladr on 05/02/2006 11:27:57 Site was hiccuped, but not the fault of the eve-central servlet. Subversion seems to be having issues, which was killing Apache, and hence no site.
Maybe I shouldn't have made the early move to Apache 2.2 But the large file support is so worth it ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics |
Falgaroth
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Posted - 2006.02.07 08:08:00 -
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Very nice tool..
it just works and hands a trader the right info and nothing more ;)
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Connor Rae
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Posted - 2006.02.07 10:02:00 -
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could a feature be added that shows the initial investment we would need to make to get the full potential for a trade route...and also a filter that would allow us to put a cap on what the initial investment would be. I have a lot of good trade routes showing up but once I do the math I realize that I don't have enough capital to fill my hold and can only get some of the potential profit...which may make the route not worth running as a result. If we were able to enter in not only our capacity and min profit but also how much we are willing or able to invest, i think it would help us figure out what runs are more tailored to us and our needs. Thank you.
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.12 09:07:00 -
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Yup, you got it, the long overdue distance calculations :) ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics |
Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:30:00 -
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In case anyone is wondering what the "Register and Login" link is on every screen, here are my plans (and what I've been busy working on):
- Corporation Web Hosting - Already somewhat in place, it lets you make pages and type in HTML. The current interface is teh suck right now, but you gotta start somewhere. - Blueprint and Production Manager - Interface to manage and track what you are building, what blueprints you have, how many minerals you have to build an item, and more - Storefronts - Run your own Nagamazon. I'm still working on all the details here, but its designed to run 'build on demand' type products, but also allows you to maintain an active inventory (for faction/loot/cheap stuff). Multiple shopkeepers, realtime tracking of order queues, automatic order queue bumping for corp/alliance orders, auto notifcation by e-mail, and the whole lot. This will tie into the production manager to let you streamline the whole affair.
- Kal ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics |
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Devil Chaser
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:29:00 -
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Godsend. Please keep it up. This is fantastic.
Would like to see something about security of the route, but that's prolly asking alot. The calculation of distances helps tremendously.
Oh, being able to sort according to some of the data fields would really help too. Such at total profit, jumps, profit per run, etc. as sort options.
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Nakbar
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:48:00 -
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I have been using your web site for a few weeks and its fantastic! One minor item to consider: Having a filter for security status of the system. [e.g. only show 0.5 or higher] While there are some islands of safe space, this would help me tremendously in planning my logistics
I'm a carebear at heart and running the pirate gauntlet for 200k isogen is not how I use your site.
Beyond that, awesome! ------ FOR SALE
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nakbar I have been using your web site for a few weeks and its fantastic! One minor item to consider: Having a filter for security status of the system. [e.g. only show 0.5 or higher] While there are some islands of safe space, this would help me tremendously in planning my logistics
I'm a carebear at heart and running the pirate gauntlet for 200k isogen is not how I use your site.
Beyond that, awesome!
I'm going to build a second map model weighted for security status. Its not a big deal really, or so I think ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics |
Shadow Lightbringer
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Posted - 2006.02.15 12:19:00 -
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WOW!!
This is great! Awesome work. I'm going to try to get people in my corp to start running the Upload Client. :)
My suggestion would be to add an option (check box) that would allow us to have the information returned in a Comma Seperated Format, or perhaps it would generate a CSV file and start a download. Granted that would only be something you could do with an out-of-game browser.
But with a CSV format I would be able to dump the data into Excel so I could play with it some more without costing you the CPU time or bandwidth useage. --- Shadow Lightbringer - CEO Lightbringer Intergalactic |
Mobius Timewalker
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:57:00 -
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one small thing that for me would make this 100 great would be a little thing if possible to see how many units are needed to purchase..but stil a great system even without it
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Zwingli
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Posted - 2006.02.17 21:27:00 -
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WOW... VEry cool!
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.02.18 20:16:00 -
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Site appears to be down, which is a shame as I have a bunch of 7 reigon price listings to upload to it, all under 4 hours old.
Ah well.
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.19 07:02:00 -
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Apache bit the dust somewhere down the road, and I was out, so no quick restarts. Site is back up.
I'm moving sometime soon from this hunk-a-junk server to a newer machine with a hopefuly saner software install. I'll let you know when that happens. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics |
Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.22 19:25:00 -
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Market reports/graphs are in! ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics |
Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.02.24 11:59:00 -
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I've moved EVE-Central.com to a brand new much faster dual processor dedicated server, and took the oppurtunity to upgrade a bunch of misc. software.
The site should be much more reliable and faster now. Enjoy! ---- EVE-Central.com | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me |
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