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Kaladr	Posted - 2006.01.21 01:40:00 - [1] EVE-Central Cross Region Market Browser and Trade Finder Since this is a topic which is more suited to the Market forum, I'm going to move my update thread here (from the spaminess that is General). Updated 1/20/2006 - Cargo sizes work properly - The tradefinder is useable in the IGB. Rejoice. - No more large QuickLook pages crashing your EVE client. The IGB view has been limited to 25 orders for Buy and Sell each. EVE-Central.com has a cross-region market browser fed with many user submissions. We aggregate all of the market data from users running the simple, open-source MarketUploader client on their systems to present a global view of how the market is doing. In addition to the simple viewing tools (and the soon to come historical statistics - statistics are fun :)), we now have a trade route finder which works across regions. It now knows about cargo sizes (new feature), data freshness, profit, and even works in the In Game Browser (many new enhancements have been made to support that rather rickety platform just today). It doesn't understand Jumps yet, but I have the dataset to import which I'll get around to this weekend. Check it out today, and contribute to this great data source! I'm thinking about making historical market data dumps available for download on a regular basis as well if there is any interest. I'm sure some people here would like to run their own analysis on the aggregated data. - Kaladr ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
Elysia Callahan	Posted - 2006.01.21 03:00:00 - [2] Hmm, it doesn't actually work for me in the IGB. Once I enter 2 systems in to the trade finder and select "search and display", I get "URL Error" "HTTP Error 403: Forbidden" now, I'm new to the game, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. I added the site to the trusted sites, but that didn't fix it. Am I doing something wrong?
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.01.21 07:47:00 - [3] When you see a URL in the IGB, and it ends in a / (such as /home/market/), replace the / with .html (so /home/market.html) The IGB loves adding the /. I'll look for where this issue occurs... (its annoying) ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
Selyia Hrafnfaedir	Posted - 2006.01.21 16:54:00 - [4] Hmm, that still hasn't done it for me. My bookmark is "http://eve-central.com/home/tradefind.html" and my trusted site entry is the same. With this, I can't search 2 systems, although it lets me get one step further and search 2 domains, although after I confirm the selections, it just gives me a blank page.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.01.24 08:44:00 - [5] I've fixed yet another IGB issue which arose during certain navigation paths through the site. I've also made the filter values 'sticky' per browser session (so don't have to refilter for size, etc). And by popular request, the number of entries per page is selectable now as well. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
Harik A'ttar	Posted - 2006.01.25 07:02:00 - [6] Edited by: Harik A''ttar on 25/01/2006 07:04:52 Search for 'ECM', it seems broken. Not sure what's wrong, and I think it happens for some other module names as well. ECM is the only one I can remember off the top of my head. By broken, I mean This search returns 13 entries for modules named only 'ECM'. It may be the "ECM - Ion Field Projector 1" that's confusing it, but I don't know. The DB seems to know the difference between the itemIDs. Yeah, I think it should be an easy fix, it's because the filename is "Syndicate - ECM - Multispectral Jammer I - 2006.01.25 064707.txt" so that extra space dash space may be screwing up your parser. ECCM has the same problem.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.01.25 07:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Kaladr on 25/01/2006 08:01:38 What problems? Fixed. I was using the item name in the past to do the upload, but since the RMR data has been released, I'm no longer depending on the upload name. And yes the parser was messed up. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.01.28 00:36:00 - [8] I now have a full table of distances between systems, which I will be adding this weekend. I'm also adding system to region searches. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies, Part of the Obsidian Union Alliance
Devil Chaser	Posted - 2006.01.28 07:00:00 - [9] Just wanted to say this is absolutely fantastic. I haven't run into any bugs yet, and it's done an awesome job helping me find profitable trade routes in my region. THe concept is badass. I would just like to suggest that more controls be added so we can get more specific in how our traderoutes are displayed and add more conditions. ALso, a friendlier interface is really needed. I am pretty good with flash, if flash is capable of sending commands to your server the way your current links work. Would be nice for the interface to look more streamlined and attractive. Also, it would be very useful to add some chart / graphing options that pull market history, or even compare trade route options. Graphs such as 'ISK per jump' for the top 5 displayed trade routes, for instance, would be great. Flash can definitely do that if such data can be pulled to the client. Again, great utility and great concept. Keep it up!
Adilette	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:16:00 - [10] Agreed - this is a fantastic concept. Everybody keep this thread alive and keep on feeding the DB with your market export uploads.

Ramjam Blackbetty	Posted - 2006.02.01 09:30:00 - [11] Great little program/website! Now I just gotta remember to hit that Export button everytime I view market details. -------------------------------------------------- The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't. Douglas Adams (may he rest in peace)
Adrastos Volos	Posted - 2006.02.01 20:17:00 - [12] This is a great tool! Having the distances from system to system will be a great addition to this! Thanks for your hard work on this!
Devil Chaser	Posted - 2006.02.01 23:18:00 - [13] Please consider adding multiple features such as 'isk per jump', and 'region to system', and 'range bubbles' which restrict analysis to a specific number of jumps away from the start system. For example, I am in Sarum. I am willing to pick up stuff within 4 jumps from there, and carry it up to 10 jumps away. I should be able to plug those factors and get suggestions from that. Also, a jump maximum restriction instead of a region restriction would be great. If I am on the edge of a region, I want to consider trips in both regions.
Hatok	Posted - 2006.02.04 09:32:00 - [14] the site seems to be down.
Tanga Nusca	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:02:00 - [15] The tool is awesome, I do expect a problem though. There will be many more people looking for info than contributing info, resulting in the few potentially profitable routes that come up to be oversaturated. Since supply and demand is limited for the most part, sharing market info may not be in the interest of those who have it. -- You can't take the sky from me.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.05 11:28:00 - [16] Edited by: Kaladr on 05/02/2006 11:27:57 Site was hiccuped, but not the fault of the eve-central servlet. Subversion seems to be having issues, which was killing Apache, and hence no site. Maybe I shouldn't have made the early move to Apache 2.2 But the large file support is so worth it ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics
Falgaroth	Posted - 2006.02.07 08:08:00 - [17] Very nice tool.. it just works and hands a trader the right info and nothing more ;)
Connor Rae	Posted - 2006.02.07 10:02:00 - [18] could a feature be added that shows the initial investment we would need to make to get the full potential for a trade route...and also a filter that would allow us to put a cap on what the initial investment would be. I have a lot of good trade routes showing up but once I do the math I realize that I don't have enough capital to fill my hold and can only get some of the potential profit...which may make the route not worth running as a result. If we were able to enter in not only our capacity and min profit but also how much we are willing or able to invest, i think it would help us figure out what runs are more tailored to us and our needs. Thank you.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.12 09:07:00 - [19] Yup, you got it, the long overdue distance calculations :) ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.13 11:30:00 - [20] In case anyone is wondering what the "Register and Login" link is on every screen, here are my plans (and what I've been busy working on): - Corporation Web Hosting - Already somewhat in place, it lets you make pages and type in HTML. The current interface is teh suck right now, but you gotta start somewhere. - Blueprint and Production Manager - Interface to manage and track what you are building, what blueprints you have, how many minerals you have to build an item, and more - Storefronts - Run your own Nagamazon. I'm still working on all the details here, but its designed to run 'build on demand' type products, but also allows you to maintain an active inventory (for faction/loot/cheap stuff). Multiple shopkeepers, realtime tracking of order queues, automatic order queue bumping for corp/alliance orders, auto notifcation by e-mail, and the whole lot. This will tie into the production manager to let you streamline the whole affair. - Kal ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics

Devil Chaser	Posted - 2006.02.13 23:29:00 - [21] Godsend. Please keep it up. This is fantastic. Would like to see something about security of the route, but that's prolly asking alot. The calculation of distances helps tremendously. Oh, being able to sort according to some of the data fields would really help too. Such at total profit, jumps, profit per run, etc. as sort options.
Nakbar	Posted - 2006.02.13 23:48:00 - [22] I have been using your web site for a few weeks and its fantastic! One minor item to consider: Having a filter for security status of the system. [e.g. only show 0.5 or higher] While there are some islands of safe space, this would help me tremendously in planning my logistics I'm a carebear at heart and running the pirate gauntlet for 200k isogen is not how I use your site. Beyond that, awesome! ------ FOR SALE Tech 2 Havoc Precision Heavy Missile Check in game bio for details and pricing
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.14 00:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Nakbar I have been using your web site for a few weeks and its fantastic! One minor item to consider: Having a filter for security status of the system. [e.g. only show 0.5 or higher] While there are some islands of safe space, this would help me tremendously in planning my logistics I'm a carebear at heart and running the pirate gauntlet for 200k isogen is not how I use your site. Beyond that, awesome! I'm going to build a second map model weighted for security status. Its not a big deal really, or so I think ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics
Shadow Lightbringer	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:19:00 - [24] WOW!! This is great! Awesome work. I'm going to try to get people in my corp to start running the Upload Client. :) My suggestion would be to add an option (check box) that would allow us to have the information returned in a Comma Seperated Format, or perhaps it would generate a CSV file and start a download. Granted that would only be something you could do with an out-of-game browser. But with a CSV format I would be able to dump the data into Excel so I could play with it some more without costing you the CPU time or bandwidth useage. --- Shadow Lightbringer - CEO Lightbringer Intergalactic
Mobius Timewalker	Posted - 2006.02.17 18:57:00 - [25] one small thing that for me would make this 100 great would be a little thing if possible to see how many units are needed to purchase..but stil a great system even without it
Zwingli	Posted - 2006.02.17 21:27:00 - [26] WOW... VEry cool!
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.02.18 20:16:00 - [27] Site appears to be down, which is a shame as I have a bunch of 7 reigon price listings to upload to it, all under 4 hours old. Ah well.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.19 07:02:00 - [28] Apache bit the dust somewhere down the road, and I was out, so no quick restarts. Site is back up. I'm moving sometime soon from this hunk-a-junk server to a newer machine with a hopefuly saner software install. I'll let you know when that happens. ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.22 19:25:00 - [29] Market reports/graphs are in! ---- EVE-Central.com Coss-Region Market Browser \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing and Logistics
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.02.24 11:59:00 - [30] I've moved EVE-Central.com to a brand new much faster dual processor dedicated server, and took the oppurtunity to upgrade a bunch of misc. software. The site should be much more reliable and faster now. Enjoy! ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me

Kaladr	Posted - 2006.03.01 04:39:00 - [31] If you're having any problems with the uploader not uploading files, make sure your EVE folder does not have any other files ending in .txt. Apparently my nonexistant "other file" detector is broken, so this can easily break the uploader. I'll release a new version sometime soon which allows upload by user statistics. Thanks! ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Jentai Cylor	Posted - 2006.03.01 07:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Kaladr If you're having any problems with the uploader not uploading files, make sure your EVE folder does not have any other files ending in .txt. Apparently my nonexistant "other file" detector is broken, so this can easily break the uploader. I'll release a new version sometime soon which allows upload by user statistics. Thanks! Dang, your lucky some jerk didn't come by and make an underhanded reference about newb coding.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.03.01 11:09:00 - [33] Edited by: Kaladr on 01/03/2006 11:14:18 I've released version 1.1.1 of the uploader which actually puts in a semi-intelligent check for the "random .txt file laying around" problem. I'll be adding the source code shortly. Remember: The uploader engine is open source, and you are free to modify, bugfix, and otherwise improve upon it. I welcome all bug reports and will try to solve them to the best of my ability. If you application has generated an error ".log" file, please e-mail it to me. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Adam Weishaupt	Posted - 2006.03.02 21:30:00 - [34] Bravo, very useful.
Space rockgirl	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:32:00 - [35] This is a fantastic utility. If I may make a suggestion. Is tehre any way you can limit the information someone could get until they had uploaded a certain number of files recently. That would prevent people from leeching the system.
Amadeus CN	Posted - 2006.03.08 12:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Space rockgirl This is a fantastic utility. If I may make a suggestion. Is tehre any way you can limit the information someone could get until they had uploaded a certain number of files recently. That would prevent people from leeching the system. GOOD IDEA~
DeMiNe0	Posted - 2006.03.09 03:10:00 - [37] I don't know if this is just me, but isn't it against the forum rules to post a website that has Ads for ISK exchange websites? http://eve-central.com/ in the footer, has atleast 2 from what i see...... ========= http://Eveolved.Com: Utilitys, Spreadsheets, Calculaters, DB's & Forums! http://a.hehe.ws/b.x
Molock Grimmer	Posted - 2006.03.10 20:53:00 - [38] I love your site, I used it last night to net myself 3mill ISK, I am new to EVE and this really helped find some great trade routes. If you give me a name I might be persuaded to send some ISK your way. My only problem is that I am not familiar enough with EVE to be able to know what regions are adjacent to what, I was thinking that maybe a map or a flowchart on your site would be of immeasureable help. Thanks again Molock Grimmer
Migrax	Posted - 2006.03.10 22:06:00 - [39] Edited by: Migrax on 10/03/2006 22:08:32 Forgive me for this aside: Aren't we a little uppity? This person has offered time, bandwidth, expertise and the sweat of her brow for the general good, and certain lower species deign to look on it and offer snide comments. Sometimes I am so ashamed of the human species. I don't want to start a flame war, but I do appreciate her efforts, especially when I stand to profit from them. Migrax
FREMULAN SKYTWAT	Posted - 2006.03.11 00:59:00 - [40] If you combined this data with some of the route analysis programs at evetrader.net, we'd all be in merchant heaven :)

Kaladr	Posted - 2006.03.13 08:06:00 - [41] Since a bunch of people requested this, here we go: - Leaderboard of most uploads, and an update MarketUploader to correctly submit this data. Old versions of the MarketUploader will of course still work. You will need to register for an EVE-Central.com account with the In Game Browser. From there, feed that login information into the new Uploader by hitting the options menu. In case you don't like having your name plastered out there, there is of course a (default) Anonymous option :-) Update to version 1.2 today. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Shawanda Jackson	Posted - 2006.03.18 10:17:00 - [42] Edited by: Shawanda Jackson on 18/03/2006 10:21:28 Can't get the IGB to register me as a new user - just a blank screen... BTW- this is a GREAT tool - thanks!
Overspark	Posted - 2006.03.19 00:17:00 - [43] Dear god, this site (and included utility) is fantastic! Many thanks! Originally by: Devil Chaser For example, I am in Sarum. I am willing to pick up stuff within 4 jumps from there, and carry it up to 10 jumps away. I should be able to plug those factors and get suggestions from that. Also, a jump maximum restriction instead of a region restriction would be great. If I am on the edge of a region, I want to consider trips in both regions. I completely agree with this. This would instantly give me the answer I'm really looking for, instead of doing multiple system to region searches starting at my current location and including some neigboring stars etc. In short, it would cut my search-time to 20% of what it is now :) Also, someone elses suggestion to give an ISK cap would also be very useful to all starting traders who aren't filthy rich yet (e.g. me). But in it's current state it's already VERY useable and profitable :)
Shawanda Jackson	Posted - 2006.03.19 02:55:00 - [44] Also display the sec status of systems when listed so you know if you wanna even look at that route or not Man what a great resource this is!
Melchiah Shadowforge	Posted - 2006.03.20 05:01:00 - [45] How do I export the market details from in game? I wasn't even aware you could do this.
SonoA	Posted - 2006.03.24 14:32:00 - [46] Originally by: Melchiah Shadowforge How do I export the market details from in game? I wasn't even aware you could do this. In the ingame market browser there are 2 buttons at the bottom of the center collum. The lowest one reads 'export to file'. Press this when ever you review the regional prices of a certain item for the first time that day. If you have downloaded the 'MarketUploader' and it is running, the exported files will be uploaded to the 'EVE-Central' server :)
Shinhan	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:06:00 - [47] First I wanna say that Im uploading market data. And so should you! And I am for restrictign data only to uploaders, to encourage more accurate data. My suggestion would be finding some corps that would like to advertise with EVE-Central. So, when somebody wants to buy an item that a said corp is selling, user will see at the top of his search results those prices. Of course corps that want to advertise would have to pay for the privilege All in all, great idea! the DAEDALUS PROJECT
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Shinhan ... My suggestion would be finding some corps that would like to advertise with EVE-Central. So, when somebody wants to buy an item that a said corp is selling, user will see at the top of his search results those prices. Of course corps that want to advertise would have to pay for the privilege All in all, great idea! Not a bad idea there ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Milodon	Posted - 2006.03.30 18:17:00 - [49] I'm having problems with the uploader software. I try to run it and all I get is "The network appears to be down.... check your firewall settings." I've turned my firewall off, set it to allow the program, I still can't get past that error message.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.03.30 23:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Milodon I'm having problems with the uploader software. I try to run it and all I get is "The network appears to be down.... check your firewall settings." I've turned my firewall off, set it to allow the program, I still can't get past that error message. When doing that check, the software tries fetching 3 files from EVE-central.com: http://eve-central.com/protocol_version.txt http://eve-central.com/client_version.txt http://eve-central.com/motd.txt Make sure you can get those files in your web browser. Are you using a proxy server for web access? ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me

Milodon	Posted - 2006.03.31 03:53:00 - [51] Originally by: Kaladr Originally by: Milodon I'm having problems with the uploader software. I try to run it and all I get is "The network appears to be down.... check your firewall settings." I've turned my firewall off, set it to allow the program, I still can't get past that error message. When doing that check, the software tries fetching 3 files from EVE-central.com: http://eve-central.com/protocol_version.txt http://eve-central.com/client_version.txt http://eve-central.com/motd.txt Make sure you can get those files in your web browser. Are you using a proxy server for web access? Yes, I'm coming from behind a proxy and that may be a problem. I'm using campus internet with a reroutable IP. However, the PCs at the computer lab had no problem with it, so I'm wondering if it's just the security setting on my wireless network at home. However, I can access all of those *.txt files you listed in my browser, what does that mean? Thanks in advance for the help
NiKunni Clerk	Posted - 2006.03.31 20:06:00 - [52] Hi Kaldar, i recive the following error from your tool: Exception in thread Thread-52: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyo", line 442, in __bootstrap File "upload.pyo", line 47, in run File "upload.pyo", line 81, in upload_data UnboundLocalError: local variable 'upcount' referenced before assignment Found in the evec_upload.exe.log
Perryman	Posted - 2006.04.01 11:32:00 - [53] Hello! thank you for this little utility... quick suggestion... could you add some sort of export option for external utilities to link to the data? or perhaps release the code/script for the search itself? What I have in mind is adding many options, basically like combining www.grismar.net navigation tool with the trade data. It would be nice to limit low security space, search all trades X number of jumps from a certain point, not region, so that you could find the shortest destination to make a trade. Also limiting search to the volume of items given or the potential profit would help the utility/user to eliminate market lures/scams when low volume / low security space is involved. If I were to make a version of my own, I might go so far as to make a trip planner, to automatically find the goods to pick up at the drop off location. Once again, thank you very much, and hopefully we can see some of these improvements/collaborations in your work in the time being, or we can contribute/extend to it ourselves with friendly export data. Thank you!
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.04.02 07:59:00 - [54] Originally by: Milodon Yes, I'm coming from behind a proxy and that may be a problem. I'm using campus internet with a reroutable IP. However, the PCs at the computer lab had no problem with it, so I'm wondering if it's just the security setting on my wireless network at home. However, I can access all of those *.txt files you listed in my browser, what does that mean? Thanks in advance for the help In theory, the Python urllib is transparent fetching the proxy information from your client. Does Internet Explorer work correctly? If so, try setting the environment variable "http_proxy" to your "proxy host:portname" combo (EVE mail or email me if you need info how). Its more of a weird proxy issue it looks like. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.04.02 08:00:00 - [55] Originally by: NiKunni Clerk Hi Kaldar, i recive the following error from your tool: Exception in thread Thread-52: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyo", line 442, in __bootstrap File "upload.pyo", line 47, in run File "upload.pyo", line 81, in upload_data UnboundLocalError: local variable 'upcount' referenced before assignment Found in the evec_upload.exe.log Minor bug in 1.2 which leads to this, but the root of the problem is that your path to your EVE folder is not set correctly as default. Try pointing the client to the correct EVE path. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Milodon	Posted - 2006.04.03 20:44:00 - [56] Originally by: Kaladr Originally by: Milodon Yes, I'm coming from behind a proxy and that may be a problem. I'm using campus internet with a reroutable IP. However, the PCs at the computer lab had no problem with it, so I'm wondering if it's just the security setting on my wireless network at home. However, I can access all of those *.txt files you listed in my browser, what does that mean? Thanks in advance for the help In theory, the Python urllib is transparent fetching the proxy information from your client. Does Internet Explorer work correctly? If so, try setting the environment variable "http_proxy" to your "proxy host:portname" combo (EVE mail or email me if you need info how). Its more of a weird proxy issue it looks like. That did it, I've never had reason to update my proxy settings for Internet Explorer. Thanks for the help, I plan to upload in abundance .
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.04.04 00:54:00 - [57] Is there some way that you could post the regions of space, and how recently they've been updated. I'm thinking that if it's possible to "rate" each item in a given regions time since it was updated, that we could log on each day, see that ohh.. Quafe in Lonetrek hasn't been updated in 2 days, and update that.. hell, even have an option to put in what region we're in, and have it spit out the top 5 most out of date items, so we can update them? Dunno if it's even possible ;) - - Please don't attack me. My ship is defragging it's hard drive. H.L. Mencken.
Valarkin	Posted - 2006.04.07 05:57:00 - [58] Bravo, and many many thanks. I look forward to whatever other features you decide to implement (except the darned 'preferred' ads :P)
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.04.07 06:27:00 - [59] Originally by: Eternal Fury Is there some way that you could post the regions of space, and how recently they've been updated. I'm thinking that if it's possible to "rate" each item in a given regions time since it was updated, that we could log on each day, see that ohh.. Quafe in Lonetrek hasn't been updated in 2 days, and update that.. hell, even have an option to put in what region we're in, and have it spit out the top 5 most out of date items, so we can update them? Dunno if it's even possible ;) Yes, quite possible ;) ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Desmo13	Posted - 2006.04.10 03:54:00 - [60] nice site, i have been updating, i think... i cant seem to logon. any known issues?

Blydchyld	Posted - 2006.04.10 11:48:00 - [61] just something to make the search a bit quicker. Pop a 'empire' button in that will give you best prices in non 0.0 regions, save me going through the list of places and selecting them all slowly. I LIKE ARK! The above post is my post and does not represent the views of any entity, If my views have upset you PM me
Valarkin	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:25:00 - [62] I agree wholeheartedly with the above post. Also, could you please add the FROM and TO fields to the final output page? I tend to forget after a while where I searched ;) Cheers
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.04.15 08:00:00 - [63] Done and done. PS: Shops and advertising are coming soon(tm). Once I stop getting distracted shooting people ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Valarkin	Posted - 2006.04.15 12:48:00 - [64] bravo! another request if I may... could you add a region to system option to the initial search? And, failing a 'search empire' option, perhaps a multi-select list of regions like you have in the trade browser? great work, it's very much appreciated.
Valeo Galaem	Posted - 2006.04.16 06:06:00 - [65] For the Market Uploader app, a humble request... Please add an option to minimize to the task bar notification area. As it is, I find myself frequently closing the app by mistake when running/closing programs, and it just takes up valuable real estate in the task bar. Don't know if this has already been recommended. _____________________________________________________________________ Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied!
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.04.16 08:47:00 - [66] Originally by: Valeo Galaem For the Market Uploader app, a humble request... Please add an option to minimize to the task bar notification area. As it is, I find myself frequently closing the app by mistake when running/closing programs, and it just takes up valuable real estate in the task bar. Don't know if this has already been recommended. Double click the icon in the taskbar. Or right click and select hide. That feature already exists. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Valarkin	Posted - 2006.04.16 22:22:00 - [67] Edited by: Valarkin on 16/04/2006 22:23:17 Me again, Would it be feasable to add the age of the data next to the buy and sell prices? ie: Selling: 527.00 ISK (6h), Buying: 569.75 ISK (1d7h)
Guire	Posted - 2006.05.01 02:06:00 - [68] Edited by: Guire on 01/05/2006 02:06:41 Hi, This tool is great! I too have one request though: could you show the quantity that will fit within the cargo size given? Thanks a bunch!
Muwumba aliUbaid	Posted - 2006.05.02 06:08:00 - [69] excellent work
Topaz BelleGemma	Posted - 2006.05.05 17:33:00 - [70] I'm trying to register. I've made eve-central.com a trusted site and have gone to the register and login page with the in-game browser. I see a place to login which defaults to my game name as username and asks for a password, but no place to register for the first time. I see Register and the message that it requires the in-game browser and trusting the site, but nothing else. When I try putting in a password in the password box with login I get an error message Bad username/password combo 4tl What am I missing?

PotatoHead	Posted - 2006.05.12 15:27:00 - [71] More folks should use this, I find it really useful to see if I'm paying too much for something cross region. Of course, if folks don't send in their data they'll get less accuracy back so it's in everyone's best interest who uses it to upload their data. Once you get used to hitting the export button on everything you look up in the market it becomes second nature. The only thing I'd like to see is the ability to make the program minimize to the program tray instead of the taskbar. I never need to maximize it, so it just takes up a space.
Topaz BelleGemma	Posted - 2006.05.15 02:39:00 - [72] I'm using the tool and reporting on goods in regions I travel through. Since it's really impossible to report on everything, what items are the best to send info on? Also I'm more that willing to send reports when I'm trading and always send files that reflect the market changes from my trades. I like an earlier suggestion about possibly setting up some alert or having a link to see the top 5 or 10 oldest reports in a region, so that they can be updated. I know when I'm chugging away sending files I often wonder if it's necessary, or if others are reporting at the same time on the same region for the same stuff. thanks for the great tools.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.05.15 19:59:00 - [73] Originally by: PotatoHead The only thing I'd like to see is the ability to make the program minimize to the program tray instead of the taskbar. I never need to maximize it, so it just takes up a space. I'll get minimize -> system tray icon working some day (soon?) In the mean time, double click the system tray icon. Poof, window is gone. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Nexxy BlackCat	Posted - 2006.05.17 07:57:00 - [74] Hey, excellent tool! Keep up the good work :) I don't seem to be able to register via the in game browser. I click the register link, fill in my details and then get a blank page. When I right click on the blank page and select show document source, I get this: <pre> Mod_python error: "PythonHandler mod_python.publisher" Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 299, in HandlerDispatch result = object(req) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/publisher.py", line 213, in handler published = publish_object(req, object) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/publisher.py", line 410, in publish_object return publish_object(req,util.apply_fs_data(object, req.form, req=req)) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/util.py", line 439, in apply_fs_data return object(**args) TypeError: register() takes exactly 3 non-keyword arguments (1 given) </pre> Thanks for all your effort, Nexxy
Elektra Tatiana	Posted - 2006.05.20 18:59:00 - [75] I too am having difficulties registering. I also have added eve-central to my trusted site list. I get the same error of nothing showing up after entering a password and email for registration.
Trente Reznor	Posted - 2006.05.21 23:03:00 - [76] Same here. I cant register at all.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.05.22 06:11:00 - [77] Those errors are a random fluke in how the IGB works. It somehow forget to submit form data. And I have no clue why. I'm going to go test this again once the new Blood patch comes out on Monday and see what happens. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.05.27 01:10:00 - [78] Good news everyone. Corp pages fixed. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Mr Ratty	Posted - 2006.05.27 08:51:00 - [79] How about a favorites? i use the same set of regions when i search, would be nice if the site would remember and use those as my default search <><><><> Freelancing Corp
Mr Ratty	Posted - 2006.05.28 15:10:00 - [80] never mind, not tried in game but out of game it does remember :) Sytem security status on the market browser would be a godsend tho! <><><><> Freelancing Corp

Kaladr	Posted - 2006.05.28 23:07:00 - [81] Originally by: Mr Ratty never mind, not tried in game but out of game it does remember :) Sytem security status on the market browser would be a godsend tho! I can do both actually. I wanted to have favorites per user not per session. Note that sessions get nuked in the IGB when you close the IGB window. Kinda annoying. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
No Love	Posted - 2006.05.29 01:27:00 - [82] Hey... I'd love to help with the uploading of new info, but I have been running this program for about a month and I went to check on it... It's run over 40k scans... but not once has it uploaded any information. Is this normal operation or does it just not like me? -Nate
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.05.29 08:58:00 - [83] Have you hit Export to File? The uploader does not magicaly grab data out of the EVE client. You must intiate the action. ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
dePooma	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:03:00 - [84] Originally by: Topaz BelleGemma I'm using the tool and reporting on goods in regions I travel through. Since it's really impossible to report on everything, what items are the best to send info on? First of all thanks for this great tool. My question is, whether we can make some job sharing, since it¦s really not possible to report every line on every station. It would be also nice to see which parts of EVE is still not covered by our activities, to close this gaps. An overview or map with regions and number of active Uploders would do, I think Thanks. dePooma
Snarfster Ekoki	Posted - 2006.06.04 15:53:00 - [85] Hi there, Thanks for this excellent tool. It's making me quite a bit of ISK. I'd like to contribute to it by uploading data, but it seems the site doesn't recognize when I am using the IGB to browse it. I can't register. Best regards, Snarfster
Unss	Posted - 2006.06.18 14:18:00 - [86] Error on startup. It was working fine the day before. Traceback (most recent call last): File "evec_upload.py", line 471, in ? File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7668, in __init__ File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7320, in _BootstrapApp File "evec_upload.py", line 463, in OnInit File "evec_upload.py", line 233, in __init__ File "evec_upload.py", line 400, in get_charuploads ValueError: invalid literal for long():
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.06.20 03:54:00 - [87] Not sure on that error ^^. There was a small outage caused by a server reboot (server facility upgraded power backup systems) and bad init scripts (database server didn't start ). Those are now fixed. If its still borking out for you, try deleting stuff in \Documents and Settings\yourusername\Local Settings\Application Data\EVE-Central MarketUploader\ (note that Local Settings and Application Data are normaly hidden folders). ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - 0.0 Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Decentrus	Posted - 2006.07.08 00:38:00 - [88] Hi, I just found your site a few days ago and it has great info. I was just wondering is there a problem with it? I tried to check it today and it wasn't working...or is it just me? Thanks again for making such a great program
Kolyana Vorishkova	Posted - 2006.07.08 17:17:00 - [89] It's working again today - HUZZAH! Best Market toolI've come across - makes trading sooooooooooooooo much easier.
Calibane	Posted - 2006.07.10 20:43:00 - [90] Bumpage for this tool... it's great! I think every serious trader / miner / manufacturer ought to spend an hour a week doing market extracts and uploading the data... would make the EVE world a much more well-informed place. One suggestion / comment: in the trade finder, perhaps you could calculate the total investment required to haul the load it is suggesting to you. I see lots of trades where I could haul 17Km3 of Isogen at a profit of 0.5 isk per unit, netting me a cool 800k isk, but I would have to shell out hundreds of millions of ISK up front to acquire the isogen. Perhaps an additional filter value for "maximum purchase price of cargo?"

Ulviirala Vauryndar Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.26 10:41:00 - [91] Any issue with registering? I couldn't register.. ever.. it gives me a blank website (login.html) in the IGB. And I cannot login at all. :(
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 06:24:00 - [92] Congratulations, you've hit an annoying transient IGB bug Do me a favor and right click, show source, and eve/email me the contents of that window. I'll figure out whats causing it one day. Lots of people can register fine, and the occasional few can't. Quite annoying. ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Frustin Jetswell	Posted - 2006.07.28 07:26:00 - [93] presumably a select all on an item, to get all the stations in the region and the respective prices of the item in question, will be uploaded without problem?
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.29 07:09:00 - [94] I've made the new alternate row color scheme in the IGB less... blinding . Sunglasses now optional. IGB is still slow when loading big tables :( Does anyone view the market browser in the IGB anyway? :) ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Ulviirala Vauryndar Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 14:18:00 - [95] Hm by now I can't send you any content because I get an HTTP 500 error when I try to register OR login. PS: I preferably use the IGB to browse to EVE-Central.com :)
Ayla Vanir Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.29 19:08:00 - [96] Originally by: Kaladr Congratulations, you've hit an annoying transient IGB bug Do me a favor and right click, show source, and eve/email me the contents of that window. I'll figure out whats causing it one day. Lots of people can register fine, and the occasional few can't. Quite annoying. Hi Kaladr, I'm going to send that info to you as well (via evemail) if you don't mind, as I've not been able to register either. Similar symptoms as the poster you're replying to - the IGB gives me a blank page.
Frustin Jetswell	Posted - 2006.07.29 21:27:00 - [97] i've been using eve-central and the market/trade tool for a few days now. its good, its a shame more people dont use it. Some of the market data is old. I buy and then sell somewhere else to find someone got there before me or the time had run out. I know what i have just said is the way it is, i.e. tough, but, for the people that do use the tools: export to file, as soon as you do a sell or a buy, it updates very quickly and prevents people from wasting time. I only use the IGB. The new colour scheme for the market browser is good. If there was one thing i could change with the whole thing, it would be automatic "export to file". pressing that button everytime is a bit of an arse. Apart from that, thanks for the work Kaladr, you're doing grand!
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 01:43:00 - [98] Originally by: Frustin Jetswell If there was one thing i could change with the whole thing, it would be automatic "export to file". pressing that button everytime is a bit of an arse. Apart from that, thanks for the work Kaladr, you're doing grand! I'd change that too But I can't ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Ayla Vanir Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 04:01:00 - [99] Kaladr: I seemed to have 'fixed' my inability to register and login via the IGB. Not sure exactly what combo of things I'd tried sorted it out, but here's the highlights: Used the IGB link at the bottom of the home page to switch to out of game browser mode. Switched it back and forth a couple of times. Each time I did that, it seemed to add something positive. For example, in IGB mode I wasn't able to select any regions to limit searches. Switching to OOG browser (while using the IGB) I was able to select those regions. Then, when I switched back, I was still able to select those regions. Confusing, yes. Tried both http://www.eve-central.com and http://eve-central.com. Guess what? The IGB sees them differently. In the end, I think this is the core issue for those unable to register, unable to limit the regions searched, and getting http error 500 internal error messages. Just my guess anyway. Added both of those domains to trusted sites. Previously, only had http://www.eve-central.com Everything works fine now for me. I'm thrilled.
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 05:19:00 - [100] Good news. You're supposed to get redirected from www. to without the www., but the IGB really doesn't like 302 redirect status codes. IGB 4tl :( /me hacks on ajax eve-central.com ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder

Phendre	Posted - 2006.07.30 20:45:00 - [101] Kaladr thanks for the EVE-Central, it has started me off on a career in trading that I never thought would be possible Can I check with you if it is alright to assign the route directory as the 'EVE' folder that contains every single Eve Online associated game file. I don't think I have managed to export a single file in the first hour of use. I am impatient to give something back to the community, especially considering the tremendous change an efficient tool such as this could make to the game (and my wallet). Phendre
Phendre	Posted - 2006.07.30 21:36:00 - [102] Originally by: Phendre Kaladr thanks for the EVE-Central, it has started me off on a career in trading that I never thought would be possible Can I check with you if it is alright to assign the route directory as the 'EVE' folder that contains every single Eve Online associated game file. I don't think I have managed to export a single file in the first hour of use. I am impatient to give something back to the community, especially considering the tremendous change an efficient tool such as this could make to the game (and my wallet). Phendre EDIT I found the *.txt files in My Documents folder on the other Hard Drive. Phew
Shawanda Jackson	Posted - 2006.08.16 03:36:00 - [103] I had to browse to http://eve-central.com/users/ in order to get registered correctly finally. Everytime I try to use www. nothing works.
Mirofs	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:23:00 - [104] Im getting this Error Bad username/password combo 4t Any idea why?
Ursulon Apshai	Posted - 2006.08.19 01:10:00 - [105] I believe their may be a bug in the eve-central registration. When I try to use an email address with a 3-level domain name like [email protected], I get a 500 error. [email protected] works fine though.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.08.23 14:56:00 - [106] Dragon Information The default output directory has changed to C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\Capture\marketlogs Make sure you point the uploader to this location. ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Thorture Caldari Sona industries Intergalactic Freelance Corporations	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:09:00 - [107] Originally by: Kaladr Dragon Information The default output directory has changed to C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\Capture\marketlogs Make sure you point the uploader to this location. Thank you :) guess i overread it in the patch notes hehe :)
Yutaka Kanzaki	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:24:00 - [108] Since the Dragon patch, some data appears to not be making it to the market browser. For a fairly clear example, there is no data on any orders for Tritanium in The Forge (Jita) region. I've personally uploaded several reports of that type, but they fail to display, although many other uploads display fine.
Femme X Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.02 00:30:00 - [109] The market exports don't work for 2 reasons: 1. The directory for market dump has changed 2. New systems were added to the map, Kaladr has to update the database on her side, otherwise some orders will not display
Yutaka Kanzaki	Posted - 2006.09.02 21:14:00 - [110] Originally by: Femme X The market exports don't work for 2 reasons: 1. The directory for market dump has changed 2. New systems were added to the map, Kaladr has to update the database on her side, otherwise some orders will not display I did change my market dump directory settings, and other regions update alright. Got a link for the information on new systems added?

Jack Toole Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:38:00 - [111] I'm having trouble registering using the in game browser. When igb is set default, http://eve-central.com/users/ page displays registration correctly (with the 3 input boxes for name, pass, email). When igb is set to off, http://eve-central.com/users/ displays no input boxes for registration. Trying to register with igb set as default creates a 500 error. Trying to register with igb set to off is an impossibility. Switching in and out www.'s does nothing productive, and the site is trusted. Not quite sure what to do about it. I'd like to contribute to the lists but at least we can do trade finds as anons. :)
Johannes Keppler	Posted - 2006.09.04 16:17:00 - [112] I used to contribute to the uploads on that site, then a lot of people started crowding the routes that I myself was running. You really should cut access to people who don't upload, it takes over 71 minutes to scan only the blueprints in 1 region, (not that there are usually profitable blueprint routes, its just an example of the time involved in exporting tables.) Letting the leaches get the info is no fun at all.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.05 05:42:00 - [113] I'm back from vacation and will check on the "missing systems" problems soon. Missing systems would be bad. But there were no added systems? Added stations don't cause a problem. ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.03 22:28:00 - [114] If anyone has the names of the missing systems and stations, it would be much appreciated! ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Michela Bosun Shipyards	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:20:00 - [115] Originally by: Kaladr If anyone has the names of the missing systems and stations, it would be much appreciated! I'd be happy to help. However, I don't see how to find the missing systems on EVE Central (or their place holders). Also, while the graphs are nice, any chance we could get tables, also, for the market browser?
Alejandro Zapata Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:33:00 - [116] Great tool, really like it. One thing I am having some problems with is that no matter how many times I try, the uploader will not upload Consumer Goods and another category of trade goods. It did upload Radioactive goods though. Any ideas on why it might be doing this?
Lord Monarch GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.10.15 04:30:00 - [117] There's been no new data for the past 4 days. Any news?
Terminus adacai Caldari Mintaka Mining Inc	Posted - 2006.10.15 07:37:00 - [118] Originally by: Lord Monarch There's been no new data for the past 4 days. Any news? There may be no new data in your area unless you upload it. I am in Verge Vendor and my uploads show up in the igb right away. Maybe you just need to export some market reports and upload them.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.22 09:03:00 - [119] Added a new XML datafeed service. Enjoy :) ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.22 09:52:00 - [120] Originally by: Kaladr Added a new XML datafeed service. Enjoy :) <3 goes off to download the data upload client What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!

Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.22 10:02:00 - [121] Note, I'm more than willing to add more information to the datafeed than what is available. Just toss me a message in game or an email and I'll do it. - Kal. ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Elune Ferret Gallente Valley Forge	Posted - 2006.10.24 08:47:00 - [122] Originally by: Johannes Keppler I used to contribute to the uploads on that site, then a lot of people started crowding the routes that I myself was running. You really should cut access to people who don't upload, it takes over 71 minutes to scan only the blueprints in 1 region, (not that there are usually profitable blueprint routes, its just an example of the time involved in exporting tables.) Letting the leaches get the info is no fun at all. I like this tool, and I'd agree with the statement above here, Would be very cool to see you needing to upload 5 market reports to make a search, or maybe unless you've uploaded 10 market reports the past 168 hours, you can't use the tradefinder. I keep the Site as secret as possible to avoid those pesky leaches, I've seen them in action. Now I've finally found something I can put to good use. I'd be damn to let leaches and noobs ruin it for me. Finally a way to make a bug without having to stay Eve-line 24/7. I like eve for not being like say WoW, unless you have no life you have no game.... By the way it took me some 4-5 hours doing the full market or was it 6, not doing that again. Still waiting for ingame voice, with voice mods.
Sharra Savente Shai'tan's Elite	Posted - 2006.10.24 12:57:00 - [123] Ive uploaded a great deal of info. I have never once used the information. So ask me why I do it? So anyone who wants to can have access to that information. If people are hiding the site because they are afraid of leeches and newbs, I'll quit updating. I had both my characters in Eve University for a reason ( The other is Sarmea Moon). I prefer to help other players, without asking for anything in return. I think the originator of this program had a great idea ( thank you Kaladr). My first ton of uploads I did without even bothering to log in. I wonder how many others have done the same, that these users want to lock out?
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.11.24 09:23:00 - [124] I've cleaned up the corp homepage service - which some of the corps actually use . No more ugly EVEC headers and weird page layouts. You're now simply inside a <body> tag with a <h1> on top - the rest is up to you. And just a reminder on the corp pages. You can password your corp, and set pages on your EVEC website to "director view only". This means only your directors which you have given the password to can "join" the corp on EVE-Central.com and read your site. Also, when they leave the corp and visit EVEC again, the user is automagically removed from the corp. The password step is optional, but recommended as its possible to forge credentials (but not totally trivial). Now a quick question. I'm looking to improve the site some in the next week or two, and curious what people are looking for... What improvements to the market browser, uploader, or corp system would you like to see? E-mail, EVE-mail, or post to this thread. Also, I'm stalking the forums looking for the Kali database dump so I can update systems, the tradefinder graph, and most importantly, types (new ships, mods, rigs, etc). If you see it posted on the forums, poke me and send me the link. Thanks - Kaladr (PS: I have some half implemented features still, like the corp ads, so some features are easier to implement ;)). ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
More Ahn	Posted - 2006.11.25 03:17:00 - [125] I'm a bit annoyed... Eve central's uploader appears to delete market logs after uploading. Since I also use Eve Trade Finder, sometimes it sees the tradelog in time, sometimes it doesn't.
Indra Maire	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:02:00 - [126] Thanks for the great site Kaladr. I've noticed a minor bug you may not be aware of. When trying to price any sort of Datacore, it's difficult to determine exactly which Datacore's prices you are looking at. If you search for Datacore, you'll see multiple item types, but all with the same name. It looks like you are parsing the market log filename correctly, since you have multiple entries, but I suspect some of the data display parsing is incorrect. This is probably due to not anticipating that an item name might include a dash. A sample name would be "Datacore - Plasma Physics" and "Datacore - Laser Physics".
GENORION	Posted - 2007.01.03 22:18:00 - [127] awsome site
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.01.13 07:48:00 - [128] Originally by: Indra Maire Thanks for the great site Kaladr. I've noticed a minor bug you may not be aware of. When trying to price any sort of Datacore, it's difficult to determine exactly which Datacore's prices you are looking at. If you search for Datacore, you'll see multiple item types, but all with the same name. It looks like you are parsing the market log filename correctly, since you have multiple entries, but I suspect some of the data display parsing is incorrect. This is probably due to not anticipating that an item name might include a dash. A sample name would be "Datacore - Plasma Physics" and "Datacore - Laser Physics". Fixed by bringing in the latest Kali data. Enjoy ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Orchid Ix Celestial Security Corps	Posted - 2007.01.17 03:23:00 - [129] Getting 503 The connection to eve-central.com could not be established.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.17 19:14:00 - [130] Wow, this is really fantastic! Finally something really useful for traders. Where can I contribute a donation to your project?

Indra Maire Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.18 19:03:00 - [131] Thanks for the fix Kaladr. You rule!
Frederick Sheh Caldari Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2007.01.18 22:26:00 - [132] so cool Ensign Frederick_Sheh (Agent Relations) - Military Division - Hadean Drive Yards
Kimp Eater	Posted - 2007.01.19 03:11:00 - [133] Is it just me or is the info on the site almost always incorrect?
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.01.19 06:17:00 - [134] Originally by: Kimp Eater Is it just me or is the info on the site almost always incorrect? Its as correct as there are uploads to correct it. Check the time, which is clearly shown on every entry, and if its old its probably out of date :) As for donations, ISK wise send them to Kaladr. Real money wise, send me an email for details. ---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.01.22 06:38:00 - [135] Password resets are now automated! yay! Expect some shiny new features to roll out by the end of next week. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Eli Bailey The 4th Law	Posted - 2007.01.26 08:55:00 - [136] Hi Kaladr, I noticed earlier that someone wasn't happy that the client deletes the files when it's uploaded the data. Maybe an option to either delete the market files or move them to another directory would be a good idea? I know I'd find that handy. Great site by the way Eli ----------- If at first you dont succeed.... kick the damn thing!
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:09:00 - [137] Rig components changed to 0.01 m3 from 1.0m3. Let me know if anything else seems broken with Revelations 1.3 content. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Haewon	Posted - 2007.02.07 17:10:00 - [138] Originally by: Elune Ferret Originally by: Johannes Keppler I used to contribute to the uploads on that site, then a lot of people started crowding the routes that I myself was running. You really should cut access to people who don't upload, it takes over 71 minutes to scan only the blueprints in 1 region, (not that there are usually profitable blueprint routes, its just an example of the time involved in exporting tables.) Letting the leaches get the info is no fun at all. I like this tool, and I'd agree with the statement above here, Would be very cool to see you needing to upload 5 market reports to make a search, or maybe unless you've uploaded 10 market reports the past 168 hours, you can't use the tradefinder. I keep the Site as secret as possible to avoid those pesky leaches, I've seen them in action. Now I've finally found something I can put to good use. I'd be damn to let leaches and noobs ruin it for me. Finally a way to make a bug without having to stay Eve-line 24/7. I like eve for not being like say WoW, unless you have no life you have no game.... By the way it took me some 4-5 hours doing the full market or was it 6, not doing that again. Quoted for empathy. I think it's a great idea to have a mandatory contribution to use this tool, it's way too valuable to be free. In addition, it will greatly increase its efficiency by having more uploads. ATM, it's more than often likely that whatever is posted is VERY outdated and therefore, useless. Please institute something.
Belmarduk	Posted - 2007.02.11 02:46:00 - [139] When will improved implants be added? Thx and fly safe
Garenn	Posted - 2007.02.12 14:52:00 - [140] Fantastic work Kaladr, just amazing! 2 thoughts: Multispectral Frequency Probe is missing (although I've been uploading it), and I would be more than happy to do additional scans for items that need it...if there is someway to alert us to which data is old or missing, I would be happy to do additional scans (ain't much to do while mining anyway) if I knew which data was in need of refreshing! Keep up the AMAZING work!!!!

Garenn	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:45:00 - [141] just an update, it looks like the multispectral frequency probe is listed as "frequency probe"...
Anthar Gruffydh	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:18:00 - [142] Edited by: Anthar Gruffydh on 13/02/2007 00:15:16 Edited by: Anthar Gruffydh on 13/02/2007 00:14:56 Hmm... sorry but I really don¦t understand the functionallity of this program. What must I do if I want to work with it? I¦ve set the using folder to my capture/marketlogs folder but nothing happened if I start the programm? I can say "scan now" as often as I want"... and then?
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.13 04:21:00 - [143] Improved implants are coming as soon as I can drudge them out of the old market dumps. I'll check into multispectral probes, probably suffer a similar fate as the implants. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:29:00 - [144] Now in: - Buy order ranges - Minimum quantity display - Upload suggestions (displays at random to reduce system load for now, and only if you have a region filter set). Coming soon: - Notification of buy/sell orders hitting a pre-defined value with e-mail alerts. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Balzor Moosinov	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:36:00 - [145] Hi - for starters, great tool - it's very handy for profitable runs in between systems. I do have one gripe, though - and I tested it extensively last night. My problem is that if I go to a region and do a market dump for a particular product, and my client uploads it, it should update anything that's in the database currently. Last night the site was giving me the option to travel to Metropolis because something was being sold for twice the ISK/unit I could buy it for. I'm sure this buy order existed at some point, but it's a good job I checked before I ran the route because I'd have been out of pocket several million ISK had I not. When I got there, and discovered that the target region no longer had this buy order in effect, I dumped the market info for that item and watched as the client uploaded it. The website is still (currently almost 24 hours after the original upload) showing the nonexistent buy order. I understand that one should check to see if old listings are still correct, but if I update a particular item in a region with new market info, it should surely remove the old info and replace it with my new one? On top of this, doing a market search query for anything and trying to filter it down to any number of hours (e.g. 10 or 5 or 1) to get things that had only been reported recently, it would still show market reports from 24h, 36h, sometimes even days previously. I don't know why it wasn't working, but it wasn't. Other than these issues - I love the tool. If you could just make it remove old market details when new ones for that product in that region were uploaded, and make it so I can filter it to, say, uploads from the last hour, then it'd be truly awesome. Thanks again.
Meoq Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.07 23:09:00 - [146] I would also like to see something this. The idea behind this tool is great, but at the moment it seems to be slightly out of date too often.
Mr Horizontal	Posted - 2007.03.31 10:11:00 - [147] While Kaladr I think has done a wonderful job with the uploader tool, I still think there needs to be a lot of pressure on getting CCP to put a proper Market export tool. Rather than just requesting it as 'would be nice' feature, I started a thread in the Features forum about sorting this out once and for all. Have a look for yourselves at this thread.
MinerHumbrol	Posted - 2007.04.05 04:56:00 - [148] eve-central offline? its not loading now
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.04.05 05:31:00 - [149] Originally by: MinerHumbrol eve-central offline? its not loading now Same problem here :(
padraig animal Minmatar Darklite inc Darklite inc Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 17:36:00 - [150] It's loading but empty after that :(

Tazerz2 Gallente Information Science Security	Posted - 2007.04.05 20:13:00 - [151] Quote: Down for Maintenance Got back from vacation and found EVE-Central.com running rather slowly. Doing some maintenance work on the system to bring things back up to speed. This may take a good few hours. Have patience. Update: Still doing a massive database rejiggering. Be back soontm Just got that message when trying to connect. Thought I'd let your minds rest :P
akirahayase Caldari Darklite inc Darklite inc Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 21:10:00 - [152] It's back online \\o/// Alt of ...
Hiro Nobunaga	Posted - 2007.04.15 03:19:00 - [153] How am I supposed to register? When I put in a username and password, it says does not match instead of letting me register. It would help a lot if there were a register button, or at least if putting in a new username and password would then register the new name and password, instead of giving a error message saying it doesn't match the username on file. I know for a fact that at least some of the usernames I entered did not match another user's.
Kim McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.04.15 09:30:00 - [154] Originally by: Hiro Nobunaga How am I supposed to register? Try visiting the site using the in-game browser.
Hiro Nobunaga	Posted - 2007.04.16 04:52:00 - [155] That's what I did.
Mr Ratty Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.04.20 20:47:00 - [156] Uploader leader boards not working for me?? <><><><> http://www.freelancingcorp.co.uk
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.05.05 02:29:00 - [157] Edited by: Kaladr on 05/05/2007 02:25:45 Yes, leaderboard went bork a while ago. I'm working on resurrecting it. It really needs a redesign since the old version had super sucky performance. Daily archive data dumps are available! From 2006! Yay! ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.05.28 07:22:00 - [158] We've installed a new piece of hardware over at EVE-Central.com in order to handle our growing server load. The trade finder has become markedly faster as a result (in addition to other back-end improvements, such as a new pathfinder engine). Check us out :) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Syath Caldari Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.05.28 19:17:00 - [159] this stuff is a waste of time, if your not gonna put all the profitable trade routes in there then why even have this crap, its no help and it just clutters the forums with waste
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.05.29 06:34:00 - [160] Originally by: Syath this stuff is a waste of time, if your not gonna put all the profitable trade routes in there then why even have this crap, its no help and it just clutters the forums with waste I'm confused... or you're confused... The tradefinder will happily find you NPC trade routes (or player ones, though these are arguably rarer to just show up - requires more use of brain :)) with the provided data, which you can augment via the uploader utility. As you probably know, trade routes are hardly static, so I can't just "put all the profitable trade routes in there". And the cross region market browser is probably the most used feature on the site. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser

Mr Adequate Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.29 11:18:00 - [161] Originally by: Kaladr We've installed a new piece of hardware over at EVE-Central.com in order to handle our growing server load. The trade finder has become markedly faster as a result (in addition to other back-end improvements, such as a new pathfinder engine). Check us out :) Just curious how you handle the pathfinder algorithm. I build a very simple Trade Agent as an in-game site for myself that finds lucrative trades ; the route finder algorithm (just a simple shortest route algo) was the most CPU intensive as it could take up to a quarter of a second to calculate a route based on my requirements (in PHP ) -- and it had to do this many times. I solved this by pre-calculating all in-region routes and storing them in a database. Couple of thousand entries per region (and taking low-sec, high-sec into account), but lookup became lightning fast. I did not venture into inter-region planning (yet).
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:09:00 - [162] As I can calculate both low and non-low sec based routes, I'm currently not using a lookup tables of distances (4000400012bytes) is a fair chunk of data in memory (yes, I know since the EVE graph is undirected so I can store less) . Its something I always consider, but haven't done yet. I'm using a Dijkstra based approach, which finds the shortest path from a node to all other nodes in the graph, which is run on the set of starting systems. Since the EVE map is a sparse graph, adjacency lists and a (in v2.1) radix heap are used (currently using binary heap). The pathfinder can consume up to 4-6 seconds on a 100-200 starting system set (~3000+ actual routes). This version is written in C++ (and wrapped to the python code via SWIG), but previous versions were in Python using psyco as a JIT compiler (which sadly does not run in 64bit mode on AMD64). ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Mr Adequate Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.30 08:14:00 - [163] Originally by: Kaladr I'm using a Dijkstra based approach, which finds the shortest path from a node to all other nodes in the graph, which is run on the set of starting systems. Thanks for answering! My own algorithm is a depth-first approach. It backtracks as it finds shorter routes to the destination. Basically I feed it "StartSystem" and "EndSystem" and it plots a route based on requirements (eg. low or high sec). This works as I limited it to a single region ; and I cut the maximum search depth to 25 jumps (which is more than I ever want to travel between A & B) A single lookup is fairly fast; but as I ask the mini expert system on top of it to clasify the hundreds of possible trade combinations that seem intestering (potential profit > min, freight volume) etc. it started to take quite a long time. Hence the DB cache of pre-calculated routes ; now I feed it Start & End, and the DB returns both the lenght of the route and systems that are part of the journey. Thanks for the good work you are doing on eve-central ! Its most usefull
vherokiory	Posted - 2007.06.08 17:58:00 - [164] remembering a bit of ideas from the "Best Path Calculator" program from jumpgate (a buddy of mine wrote it). Dijkstra's shortest path method works best. especially if you start taking skills in account to measure the time you need to get up to speed, get into warp, length of warptime based on the speed of warp on your ship. (To get a profit / sec based calculation ;) ) sometimes profit per jump isn't the same as profit per jump.
Veidtre	Posted - 2007.06.16 00:49:00 - [165] Kaladr, Thanks so much for releasing data dumps! Now that I can use the information from your site more fully, I'm just uploading to your site instead of to my own. One question that you might be able to help me with: I'm seeing some unusual stationid values on some datadumps. For example, "61000101" - I can't find a matching stationid in the latest databases from CCP or Chuker. There are 10 or 12 other unrecognized stationids? Do you have more recent maps, or are these simply values that you're getting uploaded to you? Thanks again! V
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.06.17 09:00:00 - [166] Originally by: Veidtre Kaladr, One question that you might be able to help me with: I'm seeing some unusual stationid values on some datadumps. For example, "61000101" - I can't find a matching stationid in the latest databases from CCP or Chuker. There are 10 or 12 other unrecognized stationids? V I don't have more recent maps, but I do have player owned stations (61xxx) which are added dynamically. I'll make a dump of these available, though many do not have interesting names yet :) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
GndAdmiralThrawn	Posted - 2007.06.19 05:27:00 - [167] I had a quick question about the trade finder: It appears to only show routes and trades related to the primary minerals. Is that all it calculates for? Thanks!
Trevyn Pulsar Minmatar Singularity Trafficers	Posted - 2007.06.22 04:24:00 - [168] Ok, I haven't been able to login to the site for a couple of weeks, now. When I use IGB, I get a 500 server error, and when I use an out of game browser like Firefox or IE6, it simply reloads the login screen. Also, the uploader doesn't seem to be uploading data, or it's not updating the number of uploads I've done. It seems stuck at 602. Anyone else having this problem, or is it just me? ----- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
Pel GarThur	Posted - 2007.07.03 18:49:00 - [169] Quote: Ok, I haven't been able to login to the site for a couple of weeks, now. When I use IGB, I get a 500 server error, and when I use an out of game browser like Firefox or IE6, it simply reloads the login screen. Also, the uploader doesn't seem to be uploading data, or it's not updating the number of uploads I've done. It seems stuck at 602. I don't know about your problem with the login screen, but EVE's market dump has been moved to Documents and Settings\[computer name]\My Documents\eve\logs\marketlogs. You'll have to go to "Options" and change it. This points out another problem. Wallet exports are now dumped in the same directory so the Market Exporter grabs them as well as the market dumps. Could we get an update to Market Exporter so that it doesn't grab them? Also, the ability to tell Market Exporter to not delete the market dumps would be nice too.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.07.04 03:32:00 - [170] Originally by: Pel GarThur Wallet exports are now dumped in the same directory so the Market Exporter grabs them as well as the market dumps. Could we get an update to Market Exporter so that it doesn't grab them? A short term workaround would be to move/delete your wallet exports before utilizing Market Exporter. As a suggestion. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. Shar Tegral> Well someone please say something quotable for this month!!!!

Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.04 05:26:00 - [171] I've pushed out 1.3 of the uploader which should (and I say should) not nuke your wallet export files. Also has a "-hide" startup flag to go to your systray only by default. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Business Lady	Posted - 2007.07.04 11:14:00 - [172] hi, nice job you did there kaladr, thks a lot. I want an improvement to the trade finder :). I was sitting today in metropolis region, uploaded lots of market info to your site, coz i need to go to kakakela and didn't want to go empty :). When i searched the routes IGB, it showed me all without any problems, the best route was to haul 30k units of zydrine and then i realized that i only have 2mil isk in my wallet :(. You need to make it taking in account the amount of isk some1 wants to use for trading, it would be very usefull for newer players, as me. In my case would've been much more profitable to buy something less valuable (tritanium for example. Sorry for my bad english, i just hope you understood what i mean :). Good luck and thks again for the site+uploader.
Trevyn Pulsar Minmatar Singularity Trafficers	Posted - 2007.07.05 14:21:00 - [173] Excellent work, Kaladr! And wahoo, I'm logging in again! An invaluable resource. ----- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
Tradin Jack	Posted - 2007.07.07 16:33:00 - [174] The trade route finder is currently not looking at the starting sector's security rating. Sahda keeps popping up it's ugly head as a source of nice trades in Domain. I suppose they might be if Sahda weren't .4 security rating :)
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:38:00 - [175] Originally by: Tradin Jack The trade route finder is currently not looking at the starting sector's security rating. Sahda keeps popping up it's ugly head as a source of nice trades in Domain. I suppose they might be if Sahda weren't .4 security rating :) Probably a case of bad rounding from true-sec to normalized-sec (the 0.4193828 security status to 0.4 :)) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
XCelt	Posted - 2007.07.15 11:07:00 - [176] Hey Kaladr A noble bit of programming on your behalf and a fantastic tool. \o/ IGB finally has a use for me in the game. Only thing is that I'm having to seek psychological therapy at some bizarre amarrian outpost to relieve me of my guilt of using your trading system but not being able to upload and marketlogs myself!! Now I've checked where I'm pointing the prog to find the logs, tried pointing it to the same folder using different routes also but no uploads from me. I've checked my firewall and given the prog uber access but still no uploads, of course I have exported data from in game. Hrm I cannot add to your log lists as a result, and I'm having to drink some ghastly horrible holistic liquor at this outpost to relieve me of the guilt! Any ideas? ps. sorry if you've answered Q's like this before, I checked through mails and only found one but the asker never returned :(
XCelt	Posted - 2007.07.15 11:51:00 - [177] Okay it would seem that the amarrian liquor did the job although I begrudingly admit it. It would seem that I was exporting [my orders] market logs and not logs direct from market browser. On doing this I have officially uploaded a totally random module LOL!! Great stuff \0/
Bund GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.27 05:28:00 - [178] I'm unable to limit searches to the Detorid region from the Market Browser.
Oomwrtu	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:24:00 - [179] After doing a quick lookthrough on this thread, I didn't find the answer to my question: I can't register. Yes I used the IGB and yes I trusted the site but the login field and message telling me to use IGB and trust the site are still there. Am I missing something? Perhaps registration closed?
Lucky Shadow Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.03 18:50:00 - [180] Same problem, can't register. Using the IGB, I got the Username and Password field - no register button or the like. I enter a Username and password (different from my account) and I get a bad login error. <img>http://mcaventures.com/mike/sigs/ls-sig.gif</img>

Hon Atsugi Gallente Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.08.05 06:07:00 - [181] IGB gives no registration information, just login and password.
padraig animal Minmatar New Millineon	Posted - 2007.08.05 13:19:00 - [182] Offline ?
EmptyFlame	Posted - 2007.08.05 16:52:00 - [183] Yeah, it seems to have went down last night about 2am CST and it's still down. Has me a bit worried...
Dreeepa Amarr 0-Deflex	Posted - 2007.08.05 19:50:00 - [184] Any other tools that still work? Trade Analyzer was cool, but its dead. ____________________________________ touch the legacy code, touch the legacy code!!!
Amandrace Minmatar Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.08.05 21:35:00 - [185] Unable to connect Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at eve-central.com.
ODiscordia Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.06 03:02:00 - [186] I'm hoping that someone just forgot to pay their bill... "There is no hunting like the hunting of man. And those who have hunted man, and liked it, have never cared for anything else, thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway
Meyener Caldari Obnoxius Industria Corporation	Posted - 2007.08.06 05:43:00 - [187] Yeah, as if it needs stating again, site's down for me too. I hope it comes back up soon, it's a great tool.
Emredrum	Posted - 2007.08.06 13:42:00 - [188] I will edit out this link once the service is running again. I found a trade finder on Sourceforge last night. To make it function you need to copy the exported files into the dest folder for the app. Nothing tricky. http://sourceforge.net/projects/evetrader . It seemed to offer some basic trade routes with profit. Basically only good for in system trade finds. Like i said this link will go once the sites back up. I am in no way affilliated with EVE-Central.com but love stuff. PEace
ODiscordia Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.06 16:49:00 - [189] Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up that EVE-Central.com is back up again. "There is no hunting like the hunting of man. And those who have hunted man, and liked it, have never cared for anything else, thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway
Druadan Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.08.10 02:05:00 - [190] I was wondering how the values that the XML feed for mineral prices outputs are calculated, as they differ from both the average weighted selling and average weighted buying prices. ### I nearly finish carriers, and they nerf it. I nearly finish Amarr recons, and they make them useless. Vagabond pilots beware... I have bought Minmatar Cruiser.

Trevyn Pulsar Minmatar Artifex Dynamics New Eden Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.10 14:21:00 - [191] Hmmm. Seems to be down again. ----- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
Oomwrtu	Posted - 2007.08.12 01:53:00 - [192] Anyone have an answer for those of us that can't seem to register? I guess it doesn't matter so much but it would be nice...
Emredrum	Posted - 2007.08.12 14:06:00 - [193] Quote: Turns out the latest patch broke some IGB behavior (the case of a header changed, bad CCP bad). I've fixed the problem and registration should be ok now. 9/8/07.
Msquare Secundus	Posted - 2007.08.12 20:39:00 - [194] Been unable to contact eve-central all day to day ...
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.08.12 22:43:00 - [195] Originally by: Msquare Secundus Been unable to contact eve-central all day to day ... Ditto. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.08.13 06:23:00 - [196] I had trouble contacting it in the last 12 hours, but now it seems fine. I got access about 2-3 hours ago. Improve Market Competition!
Angel Rio Gallente Capetola Enterprises	Posted - 2007.08.14 11:50:00 - [197] Hi! Thank you for this very nice tool. I upload regularly, however, I'm sometimes at a loss on what items to upload as I want to upload items that are not checked by other people. Can you suggest some item prices to upload based on the current location of the character? Preferably written at the bottom of the Trade Finder. I know this is written in the Quick looks, but it's not as accessible as Trade Finder. And, it would have a side-effect of showing trade items that are rarely checked by people, and possibly opening new trade routes. Example: --------- From: Caslemon IX - Moon 16 - Combined Harvest Warehouse To: Atlulle VIII - FedMart Storage Jumps: 13 Type: Livestock Selling: 915.11 ISK, Buying: 999.92 ISK Per-unit profit: 84.81 ISK, Units tradeable: 7,057, Potential profit: 598,504.17 ISK Profit per trip:: 598,504.17 ISK Profit per jump: 42,750.29 Page 1. Next page Items in <current location> that need new prices: Long-limbed Roes, Afterburners, Tritanium ---------
Somerled MacDhommal Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.17 16:00:00 - [198] Its not letting me register ingame for some reason.
Ashchap	Posted - 2007.08.18 02:53:00 - [199] Edited by: Ashchap on 18/08/2007 02:54:16 Hey, great tool, I use it all the time (and upload when I have time). one thing I noticed though was that your adverts on the site are mostly isk sellers. I know you need to recoup costs of hosting etc but for someone who obviously cares about the economy of eve I would have thought you would want to do everything you can to minimise the effect isk sellers and macro miners have on the eve universe. I don't know if you have any control over the ads google puts on your site but it may be possible to stop any isk seller ads appearing... Anyway, thanks for making the site, I couldn't do without it!
Ludi Cross	Posted - 2007.08.20 02:08:00 - [200] Hi, I love your site, it's a much-needed resource. I noticed and verified today that the security filter is not working for the Trade Finder. Both checked and unchecked, it would repeatedly send me to destinations ending in low-sec space. I realize it doesn't guarantee avoiding low-sec mid-route, but it previously avoided low-sec destinations as expected when this feature was activated. Thanks for all your hard work!

Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.08.21 16:56:00 - [201] Originally by: Ludi Cross Hi, I love your site, it's a much-needed resource. I noticed and verified today that the security filter is not working for the Trade Finder. Both checked and unchecked, it would repeatedly send me to destinations ending in low-sec space. I realize it doesn't guarantee avoiding low-sec mid-route, but it previously avoided low-sec destinations as expected when this feature was activated. Thanks for all your hard work! Some systems are flagged wrong in the system (wrong rounded security status). I'm going to look at re-rounding them appropiately. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Tigirus	Posted - 2007.08.23 08:57:00 - [202] I cant access eve-central.com through ingame or out of game browsers, something up with the site?
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.08.23 09:15:00 - [203] Yup, server seems to be down.
Msquare	Posted - 2007.08.29 22:08:00 - [204] Seems no updates are taken on at the moment. The last patch has slightly changed the formatting of the filename, no spaces in it anymore. I'll mail him in&out game. BTW: Site seems operational now when I access it (at the time of writing)
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.08.30 15:54:00 - [205] There's a new uploader - works fine again.
DiGama Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.16 23:56:00 - [206] Is the MySQL database (I assume) backing the EVE-Central website public? If so, what is the location and password? If not, can you make it public? It would allow analysis of the market far greater than the XML file can. Alternatively, you could enhance the XML file's power to allow for more control of the output. It would be really helpful given the vast amount of data contained in it. ---- You can't spell "progress" without "ogre".
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.09.25 11:20:00 - [207] Quote: 7/5/2007 Wallet (and soon journal/transaction) browser. Login/register, click on the applicable link in the users portal, enter your API key, and you're on your way. Currently only maintains a historical list of your wallet balance over time, transaction logs and journaling coming soon! Will this be used to keep track of item values? If so.. awesome.
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:36:00 - [208] Something happened? :( Quote: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /home/ on this server. Apache/2 Server at eve-central.com Port 80 anyone else have this issue? -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Cubitta Gallente Beyonders	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:48:00 - [209] Originally by: Tonto Auri anyone else have this issue? Yep - me too Market uploader wont run either (gives ProtocolVersionMismatch exception according to log).
Kanarue Shinohara	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:39:00 - [210] The site worked just fine last week! Why is it forbidden now? How am I going to make decent money if I can't look at cross-region prices? Is there an alternative to eve-central?

Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.10.14 19:50:00 - [211] Anyone know the status of this website? Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Banebitch Zarena Family	Posted - 2007.10.14 20:51:00 - [212] Few minutes ago - down
Laches	Posted - 2007.10.15 00:24:00 - [213] At least it's down and not 403-Forbidden. Progress?
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.16 20:03:00 - [214] Working now... Guess it want some ISK to grease their harddisks :) -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.10.27 22:27:00 - [215] Originally by: Tonto Auri Working now... Guess it want some ISK to grease their harddisks :) If only I could feed XFS some ISK... ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Felix Archon Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.29 16:07:00 - [216] Kaladr, Excellent tools. My donation is probably trivial, but you can be sure there's more to come. Trading Robotics revealed some points where the Trade finder can mislead: 1) The player may not have enough capital (or want to risk it) to move the full amount tradable. 2) A 1% tax can turn what appears to be a per-unit profit into a loss. Might I recommend the following enhancements: 1) Add a filter for "trading capital" which limits how much of a product can be bought. 2A) Add "% profit" next to "per-unit profit" in the output so the player to quickly see whether taxes are going to take a significant bite out of the trade. OR 2B) Add a "tax percent" filter that is incorporated into the bottom-line profitability. Again, thanks.
Frankieboy	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:00:00 - [217] A nice feature would have been to filter out low sec systems in marked browser? :) As a trader im using this hub all the time, and as a freighter pilot i dont go into low sec, i recon there are more like people doing the same as me :)
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.04 16:09:00 - [218] Wonder what knid of oppurtunites for deception that the eve-c guys can inflict onto eve. ----------------- Friends Forever Kill. BoB. Dead.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.20 06:50:00 - [219] Now you can receive every market log uploaded to EVE-Central.com via e-mail, more or less the instant it happens. From there, you can filter it to a script on your e-mail server, or pull it from a POP/IMAP server at your end to process messages. This is probably the most advanced system we offer. It will chew through a lot of bandwidth and storage space, generating potentially hundreds of e-mails per hour. Check out our developers page ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.20 07:06:00 - [220] Originally by: Kaladr Now you can receive every market log uploaded to EVE-Central.com via e-mail, more or less the instant it happens. From there, you can filter it to a script on your e-mail server, or pull it from a POP/IMAP server at your end to process messages. This is probably the most advanced system we offer. It will chew through a lot of bandwidth and storage space, generating potentially hundreds of e-mails per hour. Check out our developers page RSS > Email. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan

Doug Gallespie	Posted - 2007.11.20 13:51:00 - [221] Originally by: LaVista Vista RSS > Email. database master/slave replication > RSS > Email. Binary data ftw. Still, email is better than nothing. Thanks Kaladr. Now if there were separate email lists for regions/items, that would be really cool. I'd also like to see a nightly dump that included all the 'current' orders in the database, rather than just the new stuff received during the day. Otherwise I need all the historical data back for a year in order to establish what the current market situation is.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:32:00 - [222] Edited by: Kaladr on 20/11/2007 21:34:11 Originally by: LaVista Vista RSS > Email. RSS is pull. E-mail is push. I opted for push, as its the most real-time. One lacking feature we have is the current market orders isn't available via the API. This is where an RSS-like feed would be the most appropriate, to complement the region/item statistics XML request. DB master/slave replication is far too platform specific. Binary formats would conserve bandwidth at the expense of ease of use. Bandwidth isn't too much of a problem for now, so ease of use won. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:36:00 - [223] Originally by: Doug Gallespie Now if there were separate email lists for regions/items, that would be really cool. I'd also like to see a nightly dump that included all the 'current' orders in the database, rather than just the new stuff received during the day. Otherwise I need all the historical data back for a year in order to establish what the current market situation is. Both good ideas. I'll see what I can do. I still have some annoying DB related issues such as incorrect rounded sec-statuses for many systems that I have to work through as well. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.11.20 23:58:00 - [224] Surely the end result will just be programs querying their email servers repeatedly instead of yours? Do you think this will result in you using less bandwidth as a result? How do you intend to minimize waste, i.e. people not using the service any more, but still being subscribed. And last question, (sorry, couldn't determine from the dev page), do you plan to do something funky with the email, like using it with SOAP, or will it just be the csv files?
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:44:00 - [225] Originally by: Coconut Joe Surely the end result will just be programs querying their email servers repeatedly instead of yours? Do you think this will result in you using less bandwidth as a result? How do you intend to minimize waste, i.e. people not using the service any more, but still being subscribed. And last question, (sorry, couldn't determine from the dev page), do you plan to do something funky with the email, like using it with SOAP, or will it just be the csv files? Its really designed for people with their own mail server, though POP pulling is possible as well. In the case of POP pulling, it is offloaded from my system, so not really my concern in terms of bandwidth. For people with their own server, you simply setup a mail alias which pipes all mail to your interested script. Quick, good performance, easy to setup, and it works. SMTP also has very well understood delivery mechanics - when messages start failing (no route, server dead, account gone, mailbox full, etc), the list manager can quickly figure it out and stop delivery to that address. Using RSS increases my bandwidth use, as people will have to constantly sc*****the RSS feed to discover new data, and then pull new data from there. The output of the mails is in the EVE produced CSV format. Its a well understood format in regards to EVE market logs, and a good lowest common denominator. Using XML adds unneeded bulk in this case. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:47:00 - [226] Apparently s c r a p e is banned. :-/ ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.24 03:26:00 - [227] ttt Latest News
Feyran Loa'thin	Posted - 2007.11.26 13:09:00 - [228] hi, probably something very simple i'm missing... but i can't register to ev-central.com http://eve-central.com/ is the url i'm using ingame, the same url set as a 'trusted site' but on the login/register page there's only the option to log in (nmes/password fields) - no option to actually register? any help appreciated :) Quote: "To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost." - Gustave Flaubert
Tai Zia	Posted - 2007.12.06 05:11:00 - [229] Is this offline or did it move somewhere else? --- In an ocean of mediocrity, there must be an island of excellence.
BLKMGK Gallente Galactic Venture Partnership	Posted - 2007.12.15 23:32:00 - [230] System is upand working in the in gamebrowser. Have used it to find some good stuff. I used to be able to contribute to it easily but now when I run the uploader, the newest one, I get errors. The log snippet is posted below and is 100% consistent :-( Would love to contribute as I did before if this project is still actively accepting data... Traceback (most recent call last): File "evec_upload.py", line 482, in <module> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7757, in __init__ File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7354, in _BootstrapApp File "evec_upload.py", line 466, in OnInit File "evec_upload.py", line 149, in __init__ File "evec_upload.py", line 449, in load_config File "pickle.pyo", line 1370, in load File "pickle.pyo", line 858, in load File "pickle.pyo", line 880, in load_eof EOFError

Prokonsul Piotrus Minmatar Astral Light of Nature	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:27:00 - [231] It's a dumb question, but a 'how to use' would be great. I've installed the utility, run it but can't figure out what I should do to have it upload data... -- One day, we will return to the planets... please, CCP? :) EVE-Wiki - share your knowledge in one place.
HighlanderUK International Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.12.31 00:45:00 - [232] Originally by: Prokonsul Piotrus It's a dumb question, but a 'how to use' would be great. I've installed the utility, run it but can't figure out what I should do to have it upload data... you need to first point it to your export directory, usually in My Docs\EVE\logs\MarketLogs. then when in game, with the program running (or it can be run at a different time, you view items on the market, like ammo, ships, blueprints, etc... but when the screen loads, you click the EXPORT TO FILE button on the mid-right of the page, next to Buy Order button. Repeat for as long as you like depending on what you are viewing to help us all scan different regions. I tend to cover Essence and Forge, as that's where i am based. To help the traders find routes via the EC website be sure to always export all the industrial goods prices, it then help in the EC engine generate possible trade opportunities. if the app is running, it will auto scan and upload, if not the next time you run it, just manually tell it to scan for updates and the info will be uploaded and removed from the folder. ************************************************** Maker of the finest Scottish drones and ammo...all combined with Active Peat Camouflage (tm) -- so dark, you won't see them coming!!
Prokonsul Piotrus Minmatar Astral Light of Nature	Posted - 2007.12.31 02:38:00 - [233] Thanks, I was able to figure it out recently, and made it to top uploaders with 3k reports :) You may want to link the important how to - which I finally found on 'MarketUploader Software' page, under 'How to Use' heading , somewhat hidden below version changes and dowloads, from top of that page and also from 'Home' and ' Market Browser ' pages. Love the tool :) -- One day, we will return to the planets... please, CCP? :) EVE-Wiki - share your knowledge in one place.
Kale Palodo	Posted - 2008.01.01 16:12:00 - [234] Is it possible to set up a xml query per system or station ID much like what happens with the regional search?
Bambi	Posted - 2008.01.08 17:33:00 - [235] Can someone comfirm that the xml feed with a regionlimit= flag works. I cant get it to return any valid data. http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34®ionlimit=1000022 That should return data for trit in The Forge region only if I am correct, but it returns only zeros. http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34 works fine... Anyone got this working?
Heisler	Posted - 2008.01.08 23:24:00 - [236] Originally by: Kale Palodo Is it possible to set up a xml query per system or station ID much like what happens with the regional search? Second that. I got this to work in Google Docs, but the mineral prices from The Forge were off what I could see in Jita... Once that happens, I'm golden!
Kalixa Hihro	Posted - 2008.01.09 03:18:00 - [237] Originally by: Kaladr Edited by: Kaladr on 20/11/2007 06:49:01 [b]Introducing the EVE-Central.com Economic and Corporate Hub Check it out today, a I did a week ago, awesome. Since then I've started writing my own meesquall application based on this data to make my fortune. Funny because I'm writing code more than playing eve ROFL. I love playing with this kind of stuff and hate killing belt rats for money in eve. Not a good thing with a pvp habit. -K /----------------------------------------------------------------------------------/ My opinion in no way represents that of my corp or anyone I am associated with, and is probably entirely wrong.
Bambi	Posted - 2008.01.09 13:18:00 - [238] Ignore my last posts, I go tthe regionlimit flag working fine along with the hours and minQ flags. Great work
Msquare	Posted - 2008.01.25 23:04:00 - [239] Down?
Saraen	Posted - 2008.01.26 02:51:00 - [240] I've been getting (104) Connection Reset by Peer for the last day.

HyperBeanie Phantom Squad Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:48:00 - [241] Seems to be up and down... can't quite figure out when and how :(
Dr Brains Boli Me Kurc	Posted - 2008.02.03 16:54:00 - [242] Is it possible to fetch data for multiple items at once? Something like: http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34:35:36:xx That would be nice, so i don't need to nuke your server 20 times which could be one query.
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.02.03 20:13:00 - [243] Originally by: Bambi Edited by: Bambi on 08/01/2008 17:36:24 Can someone comfirm that the xml feed with a regionlimit= flag works. I cant get it to return any valid data. http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34«ionlimit=1000022 That should return data for trit in The Forge region only if I am correct, but it returns only zeros. http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34 works fine... Anyone got this working? Oh and a fantastic site btw. your using the wrong region i think try: http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000002 works for me
Kiara Belgique	Posted - 2008.02.17 23:07:00 - [244] didn't work =/ Quote: <?php $url = "http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=39&outtype=xml"; $ch = curl_init(); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_URL, $url); curl_setopt ($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, 1); $content = curl_exec ($ch); curl_close ($ch); $xml = new SimpleXMLElement($content); echo $content; ?> error: Quote: Mod_python error: "PythonHandler mod_python.publisher" Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 395, in HandlerDispatch result = object(req) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/publisher.py", line 213, in handler published = publish_object(req, object) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/publisher.py", line 425, in publish_object return publish_object(req,util.apply_fs_data(object, req.form, req=req)) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/util.py", line 554, in apply_fs_data return object(**args) File "/www/eve-central.com/evec.py", line 220, in quicklook session = EVCstate(req) File "/www/eve-central.com/evec_func.py", line 96, in __init__ ua = req.headers_in['User-Agent'] KeyError: 'User-Agent' what wrong do i make?
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.02.28 06:50:00 - [245] - New look and feel phase 1 launched - new nav bar and logo - Some bugs relating to XML launched (such as the above one related to not passing in a user-agent) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Red Panda VMF-214 Blacksheep Star Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.02.29 03:29:00 - [246] Edited by: Red Panda on 29/02/2008 03:29:52 I dont know if that has been put here but on http://www.searchplugins.net you can have many search engines installed in firefox search tool. Here is what I found : http://www.searchplugins.net/pluginlist.aspx?q=eve-central&mode=title Quite usefull. Now you can access directly to the results. One drawback, no choice of regions. For installing it, click on the little "I" while using FF. Happy searches ! --------- Red Panda --------- ()_() ( '_') (")(") I need Bamboo !!
Adhar Khorin Amarr Portsmouth Defense Industries EVESpace	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:11:00 - [247] Is EVE-Central down? No response either in or out of game. Tuesday March 4th, 2008. 1309 GMT Thanks, Adhar Khorin
Indra Maire Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.03.05 20:25:00 - [248] (Eve Central appeared to be down to me for a while, but it's back now.) Regarding Red Panda's tip, another convenient trick for Firefox users is to set up a keyword bookmark. To search Eve Central for Harbingers I just hit "Ctrl-L" (or click in the address bar), type "ec Harbinger" and hit "Enter". This may be more convenient for some because you can leave the search plugin set to your main search engine. To do it, go to Eve-Central's page and right-click in the search box. Select "Add a keyword for this Search" from the pop-up menu. Then give the bookmark whatever name and keyword you want. For example Name might be "Search Eve Central" and Keyword might be "ec". This would create a bookmark named "Search Eve Central". Now when you type "ec <search term>" it's equivalent to typing "<search term>" into the search field at Eve Central. Try it - it's especially handy for people who don't like using the mouse. Incidentally, you can use this for any web form you like. I have many keywords set up so I don't have to waste time going through the front page of various websites. The only downside is trying to remember you have a keyword set up (and what the keyword is.) You also clutter your bookmarks. That can be minimized by creating a folder specifically for storing keyword bookmarks.
Xanthar Rex Black Eclipse Corp	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:41:00 - [249] Originally by: Indra Maire (Eve Central appeared to be down to me for a while, but it's back now.) Regarding Red Panda's tip, another convenient trick for Firefox users is to set up a keyword bookmark. To search Eve Central for Harbingers I just hit "Ctrl-L" (or click in the address bar), type "ec Harbinger" and hit "Enter". This may be more convenient for some because you can leave the search plugin set to your main search engine. To do it, go to Eve-Central's page and right-click in the search box. Select "Add a keyword for this Search" from the pop-up menu. Then give the bookmark whatever name and keyword you want. For example Name might be "Search Eve Central" and Keyword might be "ec". This would create a bookmark named "Search Eve Central". Now when you type "ec <search term>" it's equivalent to typing "<search term>" into the search field at Eve Central. Try it - it's especially handy for people who don't like using the mouse. Incidentally, you can use this for any web form you like. I have many keywords set up so I don't have to waste time going through the front page of various websites. The only downside is trying to remember you have a keyword set up (and what the keyword is.) You also clutter your bookmarks. That can be minimized by creating a folder specifically for storing keyword bookmarks. This is awesome. Not only for Eve-central searching but any webpage with a searchbox!
The Annihilator The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.15 17:32:00 - [250] I have used it alot, but was just wondering if it is down atm? I have problems loading it. Best regards, Anni

Athre The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.03.15 17:52:00 - [251] Just loaded for me. Using Firefox.
Esmenet Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.18 13:26:00 - [252] The site has been down for me for at least a week now.
Azazel Mordred Cloak of Shadows	Posted - 2008.03.18 15:41:00 - [253] Originally by: Dr Brains Is it possible to fetch data for multiple items at once? Something like: http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34:35:36:xx That would be nice, so i don't need to nuke your server 20 times which could be one query. I'd just like to second this request/suggestion. I'm building an application which would benefit greatly from the data provided by EVE-Central, however I really don't want to abuse it by spamming loads of requests at a time.
Rho'varo Parvo Universalis	Posted - 2008.03.18 16:05:00 - [254] Originally by: Esmenet The site has been down for me for at least a week now. It seems that some people are having trouble connecting but others are not, e.g., this thread. I have http://eve-central.com/ open in another tab as I type this.
Maxim K School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.19 00:28:00 - [255] Down for me for several days as well. Here goes the trace: Target Name: www.eve-central.com IP: 38.113.114.184 Date/Time: 19/03/2008 02:20:27 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [ip1] 2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [ip2] 3 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms [ip3] 4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 4 ms [195.244.131.93] 5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms bkc-gw.telia.lv [195.244.131.6] 6 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms hls-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.78.249] 7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms s-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.251.31] 8 28 ms 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms 28 ms kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.248.49] 9 118 ms 119 ms 119 ms 117 ms 118 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.91] 10 122 ms 112 ms 120 ms 114 ms 114 ms nyk-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.165] 11 115 ms 118 ms 120 ms 112 ms 112 ms sprint-119853-nyk-b1.telia.net [213.248.83.154] 12 131 ms 125 ms 206 ms 125 ms 124 ms sl-bb27-pen-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.97] 13 119 ms 119 ms 124 ms 118 ms 124 ms sl-bb24-pen-15-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.16.81] 14 122 ms 126 ms 120 ms 120 ms 119 ms sl-bb25-pen-14-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.16.78] 15 191 ms 192 ms 190 ms 190 ms 190 ms sl-crs2-stk-0-0-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.167] 16 191 ms 217 ms 191 ms 192 ms 193 ms sl-dr21-ran-15-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.19] 17 184 ms 183 ms 183 ms 183 ms 183 ms sl-roseville-30182-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.252.30] 18 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 142.153-60-66-biz-t1-static.surewest.net [66.60.153.142] 19 190 ms 190 ms 191 ms 189 ms 190 ms ge010-crt1-sacca.heraklesdata.net [65.74.128.22] 20 190 ms 190 ms 189 ms 189 ms 190 ms ip65-46-236-69.z236-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.236.69] 21 198 ms 225 ms 197 ms 197 ms 197 ms p3-0-0d0.mar1.roseville-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.80.73] 22 197 ms 196 ms 196 ms 196 ms 197 ms p3-0-0d0.rar1.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [65.106.5.201] 23 196 ms 196 ms 196 ms 195 ms 196 ms te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.12.177] 24 192 ms 199 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.178] 25 * * * * N/A [-] 26 * * * * N/A [-] 27 * * * * N/A [-] 28 * * * * N/A [-] 29 * * * * N/A [-] 30 * * * * N/A [-] 31 * * * * N/A [-] 32 * * * * N/A [-] 33 * * * * N/A [-] 34 * * * * N/A [-] 35 * * * * N/A [-] Destination not reached in 35 hops Something wrong with routing? Used to work fine.
Imuran Orcon Corp	Posted - 2008.03.19 10:54:00 - [256] Originally by: Dr Brains Is it possible to fetch data for multiple items at once? Something like: http://eve-central.com/home/marketstat_xml.html?typeid=34:35:36:xx That would be nice, so i don't need to nuke your server 20 times which could be one query. I would like to third this idea even better with multiple regions or perhaps more of the evemon type groups, say for POS fuel, complex reations, simpe reactions etc Keep up the good work its a very useful tool
Maxim K School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.19 11:14:00 - [257] Could someone with working Eve Central DNS resolve www.eve-central.com and post the result? Most likely the unavailability of the server has to do with moving it (maybe DNS not flushed properly).
Imuran Orcon Corp	Posted - 2008.03.19 15:23:00 - [258] Originally by: Maxim K Could someone with working Eve Central DNS resolve www.eve-central.com and post the result? Most likely the unavailability of the server has to do with moving it (maybe DNS not flushed properly). Pinging shiny.eve-central.com [38.113.114.184] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 38.113.114.184: bytes=32 time=189ms TTL=47
Maxim K School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.19 17:48:00 - [259] Originally by: Imuran Pinging shiny.eve-central.com [38.113.114.184] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 38.113.114.184: bytes=32 time=189ms TTL=47 Yes, but do you see the web site itself? If you do, I am f***d ;)
Athre The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.03.19 23:08:00 - [260] Edited by: Athre on 19/03/2008 23:09:00 > eve-central.com Server: xxxx Address: xxxx Non-authoritative answer: Name: eve-central.com Address: 38.113.114.184 > and yes I am getting the web page. Try clearing your cache/cookies or using F5 and see if that makes any difference.

Maxim K School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.20 08:10:00 - [261] Originally by: Athre Edited by: Athre on 19/03/2008 23:09:00 > Try clearing your cache/cookies or using F5 and see if that makes any difference. Thanks. I don't think the browser can beat dead-end routing though :)
Esmenet Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.20 15:54:00 - [262] Originally by: Maxim K Down for me for several days as well. Here goes the trace: Target Name: www.eve-central.com IP: 38.113.114.184 Date/Time: 19/03/2008 02:20:27 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [ip1] 2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [ip2] 3 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms [ip3] 4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 4 ms [195.244.131.93] 5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms bkc-gw.telia.lv [195.244.131.6] 6 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms hls-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.78.249] 7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms s-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.251.31] 8 28 ms 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms 28 ms kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.248.49] 9 118 ms 119 ms 119 ms 117 ms 118 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.91] 10 122 ms 112 ms 120 ms 114 ms 114 ms nyk-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.165] 11 115 ms 118 ms 120 ms 112 ms 112 ms sprint-119853-nyk-b1.telia.net [213.248.83.154] 12 131 ms 125 ms 206 ms 125 ms 124 ms sl-bb27-pen-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.97] 13 119 ms 119 ms 124 ms 118 ms 124 ms sl-bb24-pen-15-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.16.81] 14 122 ms 126 ms 120 ms 120 ms 119 ms sl-bb25-pen-14-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.16.78] 15 191 ms 192 ms 190 ms 190 ms 190 ms sl-crs2-stk-0-0-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.167] 16 191 ms 217 ms 191 ms 192 ms 193 ms sl-dr21-ran-15-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.19] 17 184 ms 183 ms 183 ms 183 ms 183 ms sl-roseville-30182-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.252.30] 18 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 142.153-60-66-biz-t1-static.surewest.net [66.60.153.142] 19 190 ms 190 ms 191 ms 189 ms 190 ms ge010-crt1-sacca.heraklesdata.net [65.74.128.22] 20 190 ms 190 ms 189 ms 189 ms 190 ms ip65-46-236-69.z236-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.236.69] 21 198 ms 225 ms 197 ms 197 ms 197 ms p3-0-0d0.mar1.roseville-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.80.73] 22 197 ms 196 ms 196 ms 196 ms 197 ms p3-0-0d0.rar1.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [65.106.5.201] 23 196 ms 196 ms 196 ms 195 ms 196 ms te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.12.177] 24 192 ms 199 ms 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.178] 25 * * * * N/A [-] 26 * * * * N/A [-] 27 * * * * N/A [-] 28 * * * * N/A [-] 29 * * * * N/A [-] 30 * * * * N/A [-] 31 * * * * N/A [-] 32 * * * * N/A [-] 33 * * * * N/A [-] 34 * * * * N/A [-] 35 * * * * N/A [-] Destination not reached in 35 hops Something wrong with routing? Used to work fine. Just tried that same trace and got the same results. Still cant connect to the website.
Imuran Orcon Corp	Posted - 2008.03.20 17:18:00 - [263] Originally by: Maxim K Originally by: Imuran Pinging shiny.eve-central.com [38.113.114.184] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 38.113.114.184: bytes=32 time=189ms TTL=47 Yes, but do you see the web site itself? If you do, I am f***d ;) Yes I do
Toobah StarLight Inc. Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2008.03.20 21:04:00 - [264] I loosely suspect the inability for some, including me, to connect to eve-central.com is related to the dispute between Telia and Cogent. Using a proxy not stationed in europe I am able to access eve-central without any hassle. I'm surfin' from Sweden.
Athre The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.03.20 21:18:00 - [265] Originally by: Toobah I loosely suspect the inability for some, including me, to connect to eve-central.com is related to the dispute between Telia and Cogent. Using a proxy not stationed in europe I am able to access eve-central without any hassle. I'm surfin' from Sweden. quite possibly, I am surfing from Virginia USA
Kaladr	Posted - 2008.03.21 01:17:00 - [266] Edited by: Kaladr on 21/03/2008 01:18:56 Hi all, EVE-Central.com's primary co-location bandwidth provider is [drumroll] Cogent. Telia and Cogent are slinging mud right now, and not peering. There should be a backup route through another provider (L3 and XO), but it doesn't seem to be working. I'll have some words with the hosting provider about that. You can see from the traceroute above that the data actually seems to enter the data center its in, but then takes a suprise trip south to San Jose . I can't offer a "quick fix" for this issue. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Countess NotFarOut2 University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.21 08:12:00 - [267] Quote: In a market window on a specific item, hit Export to File What market window?!?! I have started the uploader AND EVE-client, opened the Market(4th button from the top...) and have tried to find an option like Export to File to no avail... Step-by-step instructions for possibly a moron, please?
Msquare Bitter Old Men	Posted - 2008.03.25 23:00:00 - [268] Just for good measure ... site sems to be working well (an upload is visible in the market browser "immediatly" afterwards). The mail-feed, however, seems to be very slow
Barzam School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.28 09:48:00 - [269] Originally by: Kaladr Edited by: Kaladr on 21/03/2008 01:18:56 Hi all, EVE-Central.com's primary co-location bandwidth provider is [drumroll] Cogent. Telia and Cogent are slinging mud right now, and not peering. There should be a backup route through another provider (L3 and XO), but it doesn't seem to be working. I'll have some words with the hosting provider about that. You can see from the traceroute above that the data actually seems to enter the data center its in, but then takes a suprise trip south to San Jose . I can't offer a "quick fix" for this issue. This is confirmed. The XO route is completely cut off for me from work (going through telia link), but my homeserver which uses another route (telenor) to eve-central works fine. Last working hop is: Non-authoritative answer: 178.12.88.207.in-addr.arpa name = 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net. 27 172 ms 171 ms 177 ms 207.88.12.178
Maxim K School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:58:00 - [270] What do you say, it's back. At least for now. Missed you, Eve-Central!

Ratcattle Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen	Posted - 2008.04.03 10:12:00 - [271] Hi Kaladr, I uploaded a lot of mineral market files (e.g. megacyte from sinq and essence) but even 10 minutes later the orders don't show up in the market browser. I tried it a few times. Thanks for your great work so far! Regards Ratcattle
Ratcattle Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen	Posted - 2008.04.03 10:40:00 - [272] Hm ok, seems to be my mistake. The market browser now only shows the 25 best sell and buy orders. Sorry Regards Ratcattle
Kaladr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.03 23:46:00 - [273] A new blog entry about our recent mostly smooth upgrade and plans for new tools has been posted. Feel free to comment ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.03 23:47:00 - [274] Originally by: Ratcattle Hi Kaladr, I uploaded a lot of mineral market files (e.g. megacyte from sinq and essence) but even 10 minutes later the orders don't show up in the market browser. I tried it a few times. Thanks for your great work so far! Regards Ratcattle The in game browser will limit the size of the page to about 25 each. Don't view it in-game in general, so you can see more than 25 orders. The IGB sucks There were some issues with our upgrade where uploads were not being entered into the system correctly. This (should) be rectified. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Vega Vuf	Posted - 2008.04.04 11:53:00 - [275] Hmm is it supposed to only show 25 entries on the page now or will it be fixed?
Jack Tremaine	Posted - 2008.04.04 22:10:00 - [276] I wonder is there any way to automate the exporting of market details for certain (or all??!) items to the market logs folder? I'm doing it manually atm.
Kaladr	Posted - 2008.04.04 23:56:00 - [277] Originally by: Vega Vuf Hmm is it supposed to only show 25 entries on the page now or will it be fixed? This issue has been fixed ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr	Posted - 2008.04.05 00:01:00 - [278] I've updated the XML API to a new version (but don't worry, the old version is still running along). Cleaner, better documented, more features, and even a bit faster. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
sun seller	Posted - 2008.04.10 23:34:00 - [279] Edited by: sun seller on 10/04/2008 23:38:55 hm, the download file seems to be broken; only 980kb then it stops. so maybe someone could contact someone ? http://www.eve-central.com/dl/evec_setup_1_3_1.exe
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.11 02:56:00 - [280] Originally by: sun seller Edited by: sun seller on 10/04/2008 23:38:55 hm, the download file seems to be broken; only 980kb then it stops. so maybe someone could contact someone ? http://www.eve-central.com/dl/evec_setup_1_3_1.exe Try using Firefox. Some people have reported IE will just hack the file apart. Cause is under investigation. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser

Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.04.11 11:10:00 - [281] Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48 is the v2 data calculated differently? looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2. i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway? Edit i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match. EG http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash) http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita) or do i need to run seperate queries per region?
Kanadesh	Posted - 2008.04.11 19:00:00 - [282] Edited by: Kanadesh on 11/04/2008 19:00:48 Originally by: Jaarlax Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48 is the v2 data calculated differently? looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2. i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway? Edit i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match. EG http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash) http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita) or do i need to run seperate queries per region? I'm having similar problems.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.11 19:01:00 - [283] Edited by: Kaladr on 11/04/2008 19:04:17 Originally by: Jaarlax Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48 is the v2 data calculated differently? looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2. i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway? Edit i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match. EG http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash) http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita) or do i need to run seperate queries per region? I'll look into it. Something is looking fishy. Edit: It looks to be a case of minimum quantity - its being applied to sell & buy, but not all. Oops. I'll fix it in the next site push. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.04.11 19:35:00 - [284] i didnt set a minq, i thought maybe it was ignoring the first region limit or averaging both selected regions as it only errors when multi regions are selected cool you spotted the problem tho :) Thanks
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.12 20:59:00 - [285] Originally by: Jaarlax i didnt set a minq, i thought maybe it was ignoring the first region limit or averaging both selected regions as it only errors when multi regions are selected cool you spotted the problem tho :) Thanks marketstat for minerals still has an (undocumented) minimum quantity filter to screen out the usual riffraff of orders. I'll update the documentation with the next upgrade (sometime next week). ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kename Fin Caldari Reaver79 Corp	Posted - 2008.04.15 18:21:00 - [286] Where can I post/ask questions about the Mac OS X .app bundle of the market reports tool?
Dal Rath	Posted - 2008.04.27 09:31:00 - [287] Quote: IÆm also mulling over a possible Premium subscription to EVE-Central. Hi Kaladr Interesting idea. I'd like to hear more about your thinking here. In particular, I've been considering two aspects: how to provide incentives to users to upload data and how a charging model would interact with other sites using your various data feeds. Providing some form of improved service to users who upload market data, perhaps in the form of subsidized subscriptions or 'uploader only' features would perhaps increase the data available, but would require some safe guards to prevent people uploading junk data just to qualify for the benefits. Do you have any plans for something like this? Charging for services whilst leaving the data feeds free runs the risk of simply driving traffic to other sites that offer the same service using the free data but don't charge, or charge less, to end users. Of course taking load off your server may be a good thing, but reducing your subscription revenue probably is not. Do you plan to introduce any kind of restrictions on the ability of 3rd party services using your data to charge for it? For that matter, do you plan on starting to charge for the feeds?
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.29 20:28:00 - [288] Originally by: Dal Rath Quote: IÆm also mulling over a possible Premium subscription to EVE-Central. Hi Kaladr Interesting idea. I'd like to hear more about your thinking here. In particular, I've been considering two aspects: how to provide incentives to users to upload data and how a charging model would interact with other sites using your various data feeds. Providing some form of improved service to users who upload market data, perhaps in the form of subsidized subscriptions or 'uploader only' features would perhaps increase the data available, but would require some safe guards to prevent people uploading junk data just to qualify for the benefits. Do you have any plans for something like this? Charging for services whilst leaving the data feeds free runs the risk of simply driving traffic to other sites that offer the same service using the free data but don't charge, or charge less, to end users. Of course taking load off your server may be a good thing, but reducing your subscription revenue probably is not. Do you plan to introduce any kind of restrictions on the ability of 3rd party services using your data to charge for it? For that matter, do you plan on starting to charge for the feeds? The subscription-for-upload part is something I have been planning. The base tools will remain free, as well as the APIs and feeds. The advanced tools will be inexpensive or free with certain pre-requisites. I know others have created tools and other sites based on the datasets - my goal is to provide non-developers with similar tools for a little ISK on the side which are available with little hassle or setup. I know others will probably freely make available tools similar to the ones I have up - once that happens I may reconsider portions of the premium access model. I've mulled about making "premium" uploads which would be time delayed for non-subscribers and API access, but have large reservation for implementing that idea. My goal is still to provide open access to the markets ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Dal Rath	Posted - 2008.04.30 09:48:00 - [289] Thanks for the update. I'm working on some trade finding tools built on top of the eve-central data. I've opted for a more thorough but more computationally intensive algorithm than you use. Before I release it I'd like to solve two problems: how to provide priority service to people who provide eve-central with uploads and how to rate limit the rest. Is there any way to query eve-central for the uploader information? e.g. an API that I can send a character name or CCP API limited key to and get back a reputation indicator of some sort? Some meta-data in the mail feed that would show the user id of the person uploading would also work, but I'd need some way of relating eve-central user accounts to CCP accounts/characters I guess. An openid like system would be really nice, or reusing CCPs API key mechanism in some way perhaps. As for limiting usage, one option is simply to cap the number of queries a user can perform per unit time. However, I'd prefer to charge isk and give some of that back to eve-central. Any objection to a business model of that sort? Just out of idle curiosity, how many hits do you get on the site? I know what the upload volume is via the mail feed, but it would be really interesting to see a breakdown of e.g. search volume by item or region. Some interesting market meta data to be had there perhaps.
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.05.01 15:47:00 - [290] anyone having trouble connexting at the mo?

Mephistocles Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.05.01 16:01:00 - [291] Originally by: Jaarlax anyone having trouble connexting at the mo? Yeah, seems to be down completely.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.05.02 06:19:00 - [292] Originally by: Jaarlax anyone having trouble connexting at the mo? Something happened. I've undone the happening and other good stuff is happening now.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.05.02 06:21:00 - [293] Originally by: Dal Rath Thanks for the update. I'm working on some trade finding tools built on top of the eve-central data. I've opted for a more thorough but more computationally intensive algorithm than you use. Before I release it I'd like to solve two problems: how to provide priority service to people who provide eve-central with uploads and how to rate limit the rest. Is there any way to query eve-central for the uploader information? e.g. an API that I can send a character name or CCP API limited key to and get back a reputation indicator of some sort? Some meta-data in the mail feed that would show the user id of the person uploading would also work, but I'd need some way of relating eve-central user accounts to CCP accounts/characters I guess. An openid like system would be really nice, or reusing CCPs API key mechanism in some way perhaps. As for limiting usage, one option is simply to cap the number of queries a user can perform per unit time. However, I'd prefer to charge isk and give some of that back to eve-central. Any objection to a business model of that sort? Just out of idle curiosity, how many hits do you get on the site? I know what the upload volume is via the mail feed, but it would be really interesting to see a breakdown of e.g. search volume by item or region. Some interesting market meta data to be had there perhaps. I'll work on adding some uploader API information. I haven't broken down object searched, etc yet, though could. Not counting API and IGB access, I get about 1 million pageviews a month. I easily get 5x more API traffic than pageviews though.
Kent Halo Gallente Conspiracy of One	Posted - 2008.05.06 11:58:00 - [294] Hmm, is the site down, or is it just me?
Paula Quartz	Posted - 2008.05.21 17:12:00 - [295] It doesn't work in Mac OS X Leopard. Client crashes on launch
Capt Evil	Posted - 2008.05.22 07:12:00 - [296] When I try to install the uploader client evec_setup_1_3_1.exe I get an error message: "NSIS Error, the installer you are trying to use is corrupted or incomplete. This could be the result of a dmanaged disk or a failed download or a virus. blah blah blah....." I have downloaded the file three times, tried the install from local drive and network share and on two seperate machines, same mesage every time, and yes I am downloading the windows version and not the Mac version. All my machines run XP Pro SP2
Hung Farlow	Posted - 2008.06.27 00:15:00 - [297] Is the site down for anyone else today?
Alyx Farstrider	Posted - 2008.07.03 11:43:00 - [298] Sorry if this has been answered already - I couldn't find it. What does the "movement" field signify? The difference between the total initial volumes of the sell/buy orders and the total remaining volumes of the buy/sell orders? It seems quite difficult to estimate "volume sold" based on this figure, since the duration of the buy orders can vary a great deal. Thanks for the awesome tool!
Sysion Core Research Expedition	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:36:00 - [299] I was curious how movement was calculated as well... one issued I think there could be is that when an order sells out, how do you know? If someone is selling 1 million units of Tritanium and someone buys the whole order, how is that accounted for in the market logs? Seems like the order would drop off from it, but nothing showing the sale.
Vorda69	Posted - 2008.07.08 20:04:00 - [300] WTF, the Market uploader deletes all your logs from the eve marketlogs folder?????? OK, that was my first and last upload, lost all my logs now, didnt have a backup

Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.07.25 07:11:00 - [301] Originally by: Sysion I was curious how movement was calculated as well... one issued I think there could be is that when an order sells out, how do you know? If someone is selling 1 million units of Tritanium and someone buys the whole order, how is that accounted for in the market logs? Seems like the order would drop off from it, but nothing showing the sale. At this point, movement will not see whole orders which disappear. I am working on a version which does show visibility into this though. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
HerbTarlek	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:36:00 - [302] So when are you going to add Detorid?
Paula Quartz	Posted - 2008.07.30 19:21:00 - [303] Where's the Eve-Central API documentation? Downloading the XML works fine, just don't know how they're constructed.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.07.31 08:21:00 - [304] Originally by: HerbTarlek So when are you going to add Detorid? Added. Random oversight, which no one really caught. I'm also working on black rise. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.07.31 08:22:00 - [305] Originally by: Paula Quartz Where's the Eve-Central API documentation? Downloading the XML works fine, just don't know how they're constructed. Documentation on what each field in the XML file pertains to? That doesn't exist, but I hope it is mostly self-documenting. If you have a specific question, feel free to ask. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Sammy Speedbump	Posted - 2008.08.02 19:40:00 - [306] Site seems to have been down all day
SoleDeo Gloria Minmatar Mission Runners Incorporated	Posted - 2008.08.02 19:43:00 - [307] grrrrr Visit us at Avatars United
Thorrak McFluffypants	Posted - 2008.08.02 20:28:00 - [308] Originally by: Sammy Speedbump Site seems to have been down all day Mmmm. Anyone know if they're having trouble?
Jeremy Sparks	Posted - 2008.08.02 21:51:00 - [309] Mmmm. Anyone know if they're having trouble? Site is down for me as well.
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.08.02 22:48:00 - [310] Last E-mail push from Eve-Central was at about 02:50 EVE time on Saturday, nothing since...

Sluthma	Posted - 2008.08.03 08:23:00 - [311] Any probs with EVE-CENTRAL cant get my browswer to suck up ur html. The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. /Dive This been going on for days now...
Eigenvalue	Posted - 2008.08.03 16:11:00 - [312] This is a wonderful site and service, and it's impact of being down is profound. Personally I've sent Kaladr on a number of occasions isk donations, and when I buy GTC buy through the site. I hope for it's speedy return. ---- Ax = λx
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.03 21:35:00 - [313] Working on it I guess I can't leave during the weekends ;) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Eigenvalue	Posted - 2008.08.04 00:43:00 - [314] Originally by: Kaladr Working on it I guess I can't leave during the weekends ;) No vacation for you! :) ---- Ax = λx
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.08.04 15:49:00 - [315] it's backup looks like \o/ also, can you ad numbers to the leaderboard? its a pain to keep counting what place i'm at (21st at the mo)
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:41:00 - [316] Originally by: Jaarlax it's backup looks like \o/ also, can you ad numbers to the leaderboard? its a pain to keep counting what place i'm at (21st at the mo) Done and done :) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.08.09 00:53:00 - [317] Originally by: Kaladr Working on it I guess I can't leave during the weekends ;) Have you gone away early for this weekend? The site doesn't seem happy again...
Dergo Cree Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.09 13:57:00 - [318] Thanks for the excellent service. Eve-Central is always part of my daily Eve routine! I recently signed up for the mail-push service that you offered. Just as a test really...I wanted to see if I could use the uploads to fill the gaps in some of the other trading software offered here on the forums. I've run into a problem though: I'm using Thunderbird to download the mails, and using an addon called 'smartsave' to bulk save the messages into text files. Unfortunately, the addon saves the header information in each mail at the top, and makes the files unusable for programs looking for the standard export format. Also, the mails all have the same subject line...'evec-upload] Upload'...not a problem for the addon I'm using since I can randomly generate a name based on e-mail date, but I'm suspecting many of the market monitoring applications offered here use the export file title as part of it's processing, even though regionID and objectID is part of the export data. So...long story short...would it be impolite to ask if you could provide some suggestions on how to process the mail-push data? I'm eager to use this wealth of information, but I'm at wits end trying to do it with my meager toolset/abilities. If you're looking for suggestions or feedback, I suppose my only request would be to have the mail push service use the standard Eve-export format for it's subject line. This would be extremely helpful in being able to sort the mails based on region, etc. using rules/filters to move them into appropriate folders. Of course, given the amount of data you process, this is probably impractical...but I have to ask anyway. Again, thanks for the excellent tools you provide!
Quantum Light	Posted - 2008.08.09 19:51:00 - [319] Has anyone else had issues with the latest uploader and Trend Micro? Trend Micro is seeing the evec_upload.exe and evac_setup_1_3_1.exe as containing a trojan virus and quarantines the file.
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.08.11 15:50:00 - [320] gone again perhaps a change of host might be in order?

CottageCheese Discharge	Posted - 2008.08.24 15:42:00 - [321] So when is registration going to actually work? currently broken it seems, since god knows...2006?
Desmont McCallock	Posted - 2008.08.25 17:44:00 - [322] Ok. This post goes for Kaladr. First of all congrats for the very nice work you've done and keep doing. I'm a Fighter/Trader in the game and as I was looking for tools to help me with trading, I found EVE-Central.com. Great tool but... the "Trade Finder" results don't take in concern the tax fee of the market transaction so they give the wrong profit amount. Although some results, with high price goods, give the impression of a very nice profit due to the tax fee's they end up not having a profit at all. Here is the math... Profit = (quantitybuying price)-(quantityselling price)-Tax Fee Tax Fee = (quantitybuying price)Tax rate [Tax rate vary between 1%~0.5% according to your "Accounting" skill level] buying price = the price they buy (not you) selling price = the price they sell (not you) Is it possible that you enter the Tax fee's in the equation of the results and put a drop down choice for the Tax rate in "Trade Finder"? Thanks in advance.
Carinosa Peligrosa	Posted - 2008.08.26 00:42:00 - [323] Could anyone confirm some of the characteristics of the data returned by the API? This will affect my local caching strategy, which I'm sure will be important if I release my in-development tool to the wild! Specifically, when using the example http://eve-central.com/api/quicklook?typeid=34, there's an optional sethours parameter, which defaults to 360 hours (15 days). Now of course, I could use 720 hours, which gives me the maximum buy/sell order period. So... the questions: * The base question: is the data an aggregated, accurate representation of current buy and sell orders (at the time the data was created) for a particular station, without including already closed orders, regardless of the sethours parameter? * Let's say that for a popular product in a busy system -- trit in Jita -- is there any difference between selecting 720 hours and 1 hour of data? Each data upload to eve-central reports the current conditions, right, and so the data show the current conditions (as of the time it was generated)? * That is, an order placed 700 hours ago and fulfilled 600 hours ago... will it show up in the 720 hours data? * The best use, then, of the longer "settime" parameter may be for sparsely populated systems that may not have had a data contribution in the last "y" hours, and so maybe I'll get lucky and see if there were any orders as of "5y" hours ago? Example: I just did a one-hour query for trit in Jita. It reported NO orders! Is that just because there was no data uploaded in that hour, and so of course the assumption is, there are no longer any orders? * The difference between, say, 5 hours and 720 hours isn't the bandwidth, but the number crunching your server does before it sends out the data? Or does it not even matter since if the 5 hours data is accurate, I'll get that without bogging down your server? In which case, is there any reason to not just do 720 hour queries 100% of the time, or would it be better just for you not to have the sethours parameter and simply deliver the last known market state? * Maybe I'm misunderstanding "settime"? It's described as "Get orders which have been posted within the last X hours. Defaults to 360" -- I'm supposing that this means the hours since the data was posted to eve-central. Maybe I'm wrong and it's since the order was created/modified in game? Finally, a couple of minor API enhancements designed to save your bandwidth. Just a couple of extra parameters maybe: * ordertype = { buy \| sell \| both } * top = x, where x would show only up to x buy orders (ranked most expensively) and x sell orders (ranked least expensively). Sorry for the wall of text. I want to make sure I get this right!
atoninothemighty	Posted - 2008.09.13 19:49:00 - [324] This is probably a stupid question but i can no longer find the option to create a new corp homepage
SheBoff	Posted - 2008.09.14 12:38:00 - [325] Wonderful resource and I am starting to use it again. I have a slight problem. When using the uploader, I cant log in as my user. Is this related to the fact I have just made this account and it takes time to filter through, or is something else going on ? With thank Sheboff
Key Nas	Posted - 2008.09.29 09:26:00 - [326] Very nice site and the exports are really useful to many developed tools! One question though as I have started playing with an idea for an app as well. Is there a limit at the number of typeids you can have at the url per each request? If not is there a best practice for me to do a request for all the items in your database? I have cleaned the items that are market objects through the database export, but still sending a request with 5000+ items at its url doesn't feel right. Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.09.30 07:18:00 - [327] Originally by: Key Nas Very nice site and the exports are really useful to many developed tools! One question though as I have started playing with an idea for an app as well. Is there a limit at the number of typeids you can have at the url per each request? If not is there a best practice for me to do a request for all the items in your database? I have cleaned the items that are market objects through the database export, but still sending a request with 5000+ items at its url doesn't feel right. Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance and keep up the good work! There is no official upper limit, though limiting it to 100 type IDs per request would be reasonable.
Key Nas	Posted - 2008.09.30 15:16:00 - [328] Originally by: Kaladr There is no official upper limit, though limiting it to 100 type IDs per request would be reasonable.[/quote OK thanks! I will make sure to not push over that limit.
Williamat Centaurus	Posted - 2008.10.01 00:03:00 - [329] Edited by: Williamat Centaurus on 01/10/2008 00:06:03 Hi there, great program and site. Is there a certain category of items you would like uploaded on a regular (daily or weekly) basis? Maybe the ores for instance? If there is, I would certainly be happy to do so. I will be uploading the entire market once a month in the Everyshore region. A guide on your website about items to upload more frequently or on a schedule would be good for those that are interested in contributing in this way.
Williamat Centaurus Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.09 21:50:00 - [330] Well, without hearing a reply I am going to assume that the items you have in your "Market Baskets" are all items you would like updated daily. I have been and will be uploading the minerals and BSs that you have listed so daily reports will be a little more updated. Thank you for this absolutely awesome tool as it comes in handy on a daily basis!

Diacetyl Morphine	Posted - 2008.10.12 02:01:00 - [331] Edited by: Diacetyl Morphine on 12/10/2008 02:02:01 Just found out about this wonderful awesome little program =D This is just so helpful ^^ I'll upload data as often as possible. Thanks a million. cheers
Tyrion WarMage	Posted - 2008.11.27 11:17:00 - [332] I'm also planning to write a tool, using the database. My question is simply: What is the "best" way to get the current trade informations for all items in a specific region(s), updated in the last x hours ? My ideas: - Querying quicklook for every item. But: It will return more than the most current informations -> Overhead - Using the mail-push system. But: I want to write a standalone programm (because of heavy calculations), so every user would be requiered to register his own mail-push account -> Overhead .. also a list of the valid typeIds would be nice
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.11.27 17:42:00 - [333] Originally by: Williamat Centaurus Edited by: Williamat Centaurus on 01/10/2008 00:06:03 Hi there, great program and site. Is there a certain category of items you would like uploaded on a regular (daily or weekly) basis? Maybe the ores for instance? If there is, I would certainly be happy to do so. I will be uploading the entire market once a month in the Everyshore region. A guide on your website about items to upload more frequently or on a schedule would be good for those that are interested in contributing in this way. Personaly, whenever i look at any market item, i upload it, on the assumption, that if i wanted to know someone else will. Also, i use it to advertise, whenever i put up anything for buy/sale i export it :)
Carinosa Peligrosa	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:01:00 - [334] Originally by: Tyrion WarMage .. also a list of the valid typeIds would be nice Look at the invTypes table for a list of valid items. You can filter from there (is it published, does it have a market group, etc) I'm still having difficulty with the data, in that I'm still unsure about how much time to download. If I take the whole 720 hours worth, it has orders that have been completed. On the other hand, if I take only 24 hours worth of data, I miss the orders that were placed, say, 26 hours ago but haven't expired? It seems that we're not getting snapshots, but actual reported data.
Tyria WarMage	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:23:00 - [335] Originally by: Carinosa Peligrosa I'm still having difficulty with the data, in that I'm still unsure about how much time to download. If I take the whole 720 hours worth, it has orders that have been completed. On the other hand, if I take only 24 hours worth of data, I miss the orders that were placed, say, 26 hours ago but haven't expired? It seems that we're not getting snapshots, but actual reported data. I think the best way is to cache the current data locally, and request all data in the time after the last caching. You can now calculate your snapshot by only saving/updating the most current reports by station+item. This way u will get all reports from the last person who has update a specific item, but you will not get multiple reports per station+item (just like ingame)
Nareg Maxence Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.11.30 20:36:00 - [336] This is a very cool tool. From an integrator standpoint I have one suggestion. I tried the mail push service. I must admit I don't have any data on this, but I assume that there is a lot of redundancy for some items, in that they get updated a lot. For some people getting every single update of every item may be overkill. Would it make sence to create another feed that is a digest of changes for the last hour or so? That is it only sends a market export out if it was updated during the last hour, and if there was several updates, only the last one is sent.
Tyrion WarMage	Posted - 2008.12.03 22:52:00 - [337] I've filtered the typeId List by published, marketGroupID and size, but i've still ~3k-5k item Id's (depending on the size limit). Is there a way to filter them more ? I want to get all items, possibly available on the market, below a size limit.
Carinosa Peligrosa	Posted - 2008.12.08 13:03:00 - [338] Originally by: Tyrion WarMage I've filtered the typeId List by published, marketGroupID and size, but i've still ~3k-5k item Id's (depending on the size limit). Is there a way to filter them more ? I want to get all items, possibly available on the market, below a size limit. You can filter by the object's volume, which is in the same InvTypes table. It's the volume in m3. Or am I misunderstanding what you want to filter against?
Mr Ratty Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.12.10 17:24:00 - [339] Sites down :( <><><><> [
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.12 10:16:00 - [340] I'm getting a proxy error on the site. The home page is fine but the market page and users page is unobtainable. Also, it would be nice to be able to set up a scheduled scan of the files at a preset time s uploading can be automated. I can use scheduler to run the uploader program but can't make it scan. Maybe this could be included in a future update. It would save having to remember to do it manually and I keep forgetting to hit the scan button when I've finished playing. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again

TitusFlamininus Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.12 17:25:00 - [341] Still down :(
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.12.12 17:34:00 - [342] Sites up, uploader and api is down :(
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.12.15 19:06:00 - [343] now i'm only getting partial api results. there's been no blog updates in a while, and no sign of kal in this thread, i hope EC hasn't been dropped
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.12.15 20:25:00 - [344] Edited by: Kaladr on 15/12/2008 20:25:56 Edited by: Kaladr on 15/12/2008 20:25:38 Sorry about that, had a rocky week and not enough EC babysitting time. The 20 item limit is a temporary measure until I can work out a few performance issues relating to the use of 100s of type IDs in a single request (which is what borked the single backend server this week, oops). ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Jaarlax Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.12.17 16:52:00 - [345] I personally prefer the 20 item limit, makes trouble shooting easier as i only need to check 20 numbers in a row instead of what turned out to be 53 oh BTW its down again :(
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.12.18 05:12:00 - [346] And up :-/ Blah. I'll figure it out soon enough. Stupid new backend features :) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Ambo State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.12.18 09:44:00 - [347] I hope the requests from EMMA are not causing this, I noticed that eve-central's problems started not long after I released 1.0 . They are marked with a custom user-agent header as you recommend so if you're getting unreasonable numbers of them then let me know and I'll look into ways of reducing the load. Currently requests are always for a single item and are made as data is required. results are retained and another request will only be made after 24 hours. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Karina Redstar	Posted - 2008.12.18 14:59:00 - [348] Also the "Invention profit calculator" does multi-items requests in the API. Noticed that it fails to update the prices few days ago I seems like this 20 items limit is the problem. Maybe you can get in touch with the developer and sort it out.
Kaladr Amarr No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.12.20 23:34:00 - [349] Originally by: Ambo I hope the requests from EMMA are not causing this, I noticed that eve-central's problems started not long after I released 1.0 . They are marked with a custom user-agent header as you recommend so if you're getting unreasonable numbers of them then let me know and I'll look into ways of reducing the load. Currently requests are always for a single item and are made as data is required. results are retained and another request will only be made after 24 hours. Don't believe so. The 20 item was a red herring however, not the underlying cause. Yay for concurrency bugs in native code. I've put in workarounds in deployment which should prevent it from croaking at inconvenient times. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Solar Ray Vanishing Point	Posted - 2008.12.26 04:09:00 - [350] Any tips on when the limit will be removed? The invention calculator is desperate for new data :)

Lothris Andastar	Posted - 2009.01.02 05:21:00 - [351] Just a friendly bump to ask when (or if) the limit will be removed?
Ni Kannor	Posted - 2009.01.12 03:58:00 - [352] Can Eve central, or any other tool for that matter, allow me to monitor intra-day price fluctuations? What I'd like to do is track the prices of NPC corporations through out the day. My understanding is that as players buy and sell commodities to an NPC station, the next buy price will decline and the next sell price will rise - until prices are reset during the daily maintenance.
Schive Caldari Forge War Industries	Posted - 2009.01.18 10:45:00 - [353] Could someone make a "How to use the XML extraction option" ?? I really understand nada of the given information on EvE-Central :S I would like to retrieve the following: Prizing data on different sorts of goods. Regional area only. Update frequenzy: every 1-2 hours. The above info is needed in a website using the E107 CMS system. Best thing, would be s code snippets, containing every single bit of code needed to make things work.
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.01.18 17:25:00 - [354] Originally by: Ni Kannor Can Eve central, or any other tool for that matter, allow me to monitor intra-day price fluctuations? What I'd like to do is track the prices of NPC corporations through out the day. My understanding is that as players buy and sell commodities to an NPC station, the next buy price will decline and the next sell price will rise - until prices are reset during the daily maintenance. I've been working on this site, which I think does what you ask, using price data from EVE-Central. For example, Quafe - with history over the past 1, 5, 14, 30 and 90 days using the average global price reported by EVE-Central, for every item on the market. It's still a work-in-progress but I'm hoping to be able to launch a proper beta test some time this week.
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.01.18 17:32:00 - [355] Originally by: Schive Could someone make a "How to use the XML extraction option" ?? I really understand nada of the given information on EvE-Central :S I would like to retrieve the following: Prizing data on different sorts of goods. Regional area only. Update frequenzy: every 1-2 hours. The above info is needed in a website using the E107 CMS system. Best thing, would be s code snippets, containing every single bit of code needed to make things work. The trouble is, "work" in this context is not well-defined In terms of getting data from the API, you'll need to know the typeIDs of the items you're interested in. You can find these out by (say) browsing EVE-Central and looking at the URL, or by examining the EVE static data dump. You'll also need to know the region IDs of the regions you're interested in (again, data dump is your friend). You then query the API for the data by sending a request to one of the URLs on the developer page - these take the form http://eve-central.com/api/quicklook?typeid=YOUR_TYPE_ID&typeid=ANOTHER_TYPE_ID®ionlimit=YOUR_REGION and will return an XML document. How you load that document into your CMS in whatever language it's written in, and what you do with that raw data, is up to you Hope that helps
Schive Forge War Industries	Posted - 2009.01.18 18:24:00 - [356] Quote: The trouble is, "work" in this context is not well-defined Wink Work, as in show the latest data given from EvE-Central, in a defined area. (more on the area later on) Quote: In terms of getting data from the API, you'll need to know the typeIDs of the items you're interested in. You can find these out by (say) browsing EVE-Central and looking at the URL, or by examining the EVE static data dump. You'll also need to know the region IDs of the regions you're interested in (again, data dump is your friend). How to get the ID's is a thing i think i can figure out, mostly thanks to your winks there :) Quote: You then query the API for the data by sending a request to one of the URLs on the developer page - these take the form http://eve-central.com/api/quicklook?typeid=YOUR_TYPE_ID&typeid=ANOTHER_TYPE_ID®ionlimit=YOUR_REGION and will return an XML document. How you load that document into your CMS in whatever language it's written in, and what you do with that raw data, is up to you :) Now we begin :S First of all, my skills in programming are pretty much non-present. This is the reason i use a CMS. Just got a few buttons to press, a little HTML, and there we go, a website is born. I use the CMS called E107, wich is a free, open source CMS system, where you are allowed to alter anything you like, (at your own risk of site functionality of course...). So, i build a page up, using simple HTML. Now, using HTML as "bridge" between my site and EvE-Central, doesent ruin my website. (not up yet). So, using your info, i want to get the following from EvE-Central: Image of the item. Name of the item. Prize of the item. and a specifik region. (Let's say The Forge) Now, using HTML, how will i get the above info pulled from EvE-Central, and into my site ? All i do to build a page in E107, is to use any code and CSS needed betbeen the 2 body-tags. Ye, i know, im asking for an almost premade code :S But i seriousy have no clue about XML, API or the likes of those, so a need help really really bad. i really dont know how to put it otherwise :S Sorry for being a nubbie here :(
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:34:00 - [357] Schive, EVE-mail sent
Marcus D'Eriellius Gallente Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.01.19 11:06:00 - [358] I notice the EON awards are out and for some unfathomable reason EVE-Central.com does not appear in the best application/service category which makes the awards a laughing stock. Don't worry Kaladr, we appreciate what you do.
Lone Davinel Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.01.27 14:08:00 - [359] I was wondering how exactly the market buy/sell "movement" is calculated. Is it based on a 24 hour period? or is it based on the "hours old" value that you determine. Also considering some items are probably only updated a few times a day, how accurate is the movement value? This could be a very important piece of information on deciding wether or not to set up a buy order for a particular item, as the movement history in-game only determines the total movement of the buy + sell orders.
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.02.12 01:59:00 - [360] Is there a list of productID and regionID that I can look up? Blueprint Store

Ambo EMMA Test Corp	Posted - 2009.02.12 08:49:00 - [361] Try the static data dump. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Kaladr Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.03.09 01:51:00 - [362] Originally by: Marcus D'Eriellius I notice the EON awards are out and for some unfathomable reason EVE-Central.com does not appear in the best application/service category which makes the awards a laughing stock. Don't worry Kaladr, we appreciate what you do. Never got contacted about those Guess we'll have to set things straight at some point.
Gary Gygax	Posted - 2009.04.21 22:23:00 - [363] When I looked at the download page it shows 32 bit versions but no 64 bit. Is there a version I can use with 64 bit XP?
Dal Rath	Posted - 2009.04.26 07:58:00 - [364] People who like the eve-central trade finder may like to try a variant I built that can combine multiple cargos on the same route and take into account ranged buy orders. http://eve.the-transcend.com/tradeserver/ It's still beta but already making me lots of ISK. Enjoy and give feedback. Dal
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.26 20:29:00 - [365] I'd like to suggest an addition to your XML feeds. Would it be possible to add a feed like the quicklook one, that ONLY returns the timestamp of when the last market log for a specific item was uploaded? If that was available it would help in avoiding unnecessary downloads of items that haven't actually been updated lately.
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.02 17:51:00 - [366] Another suggestion that was given to me was that the part of your code that is responsible for the xml api should return the actual 404 response code header instead of "item not found", would make it a bit more easier for coders to skip those. :)
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.06.05 11:58:00 - [367] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 05/06/2009 11:58:59 I am planning a project. I'd like to know some information about the mailman delivery: - How many emails are generated in general (rough number) per day - How many emails are sent at peak time. This would help me dimension the receiving end.
Marius Flagg	Posted - 2009.06.26 16:53:00 - [368] I'm trying to register to the site but it won't accept my user id or password for some reason. What am i doing wrong?
Kaladr Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.06.29 22:36:00 - [369] Just as an update, we are actively pulling market transaction logs, for the absolute best in pricing data. More updates and a better interface soon(tm). ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Glanter	Posted - 2009.07.08 13:43:00 - [370] Originally by: Xenofur I'd like to suggest an addition to your XML feeds. Would it be possible to add a feed like the quicklook one, that ONLY returns the timestamp of when the last market log for a specific item was uploaded? If that was available it would help in avoiding unnecessary downloads of items that haven't actually been updated lately. This would helps me to to reduce updates. "sethours" doesn't work. When I set it to 1 I will get data which are older than 10 hours... And an empty query will need about 0.5 to 1 seconds. Sorry for my bad english

Swafnirs Wrath	Posted - 2009.07.16 08:00:00 - [371] First on: I am a new player of eve (3rd day now) and i wanted to venture from boring mining to exiting trading. Was a hard time (one day) till i found eve-central. I am baffled! What an OUTSTANDING tool you gave us there, Kaladr! I am actively submitting Market-data, but isnt there a automated way to press this export-Button? Do i really have to think of it every time or is there a simple tool which waits for the market-data to appear and press the button for me as soon as the data is there?? Whould be worth a LOT for the central i think! :)
Muscaat ASCENTIS CORPORATION Free Worlds Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.16 11:43:00 - [372] Originally by: Swafnirs Wrath I am actively submitting Market-data, but isnt there a automated way to press this export-Button? Do i really have to think of it every time or is there a simple tool which waits for the market-data to appear and press the button for me as soon as the data is there?? Whould be worth a LOT for the central i think! :) Welcome to EVE What you're describing would probably be classed as a macro and thus be bannable, which isn't so great. The other option would be a "cache reader" - that, rather than looking at your screen, would monitor the game's cache files for when your client downloads the market data - and there's not currently one for EVE Central (one of its "rivals" has one, but that site has ground to a halt for the last few months). I think there are a few people trying to create one (myself included), but there's nothing published (yet - I hope). ---------- EVE Markets - global price trends at your fingertips
Swafnirs Wrath	Posted - 2009.07.16 19:47:00 - [373] Originally by: Muscaat I think there are a few people trying to create one (myself included), but there's nothing published (yet - I hope). Ah. Thx for the informations!
Desmont McCallock Phoenix Interstellar Corp	Posted - 2009.07.17 19:37:00 - [374] EVE Central could really use the uploader tool that EVE Metrics has. EVE Metrics Uploader tool is better than EVE Central's but EVE Central has better service than EVE Metrics. Why can't those two combine?
Kaladr Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.24 06:09:00 - [375] Little known fact: EVE-Central was reading EVE-Metrics market data, back in EveMetrics 1.0. Since the site update went on a feature reduction across the board, we no longer do it, but will resume soon(tm).
Ambo I've Got Nothing	Posted - 2009.07.24 08:19:00 - [376] Originally by: Kaladr Little known fact: EVE-Central was reading EVE-Metrics market data, back in EveMetrics 1.0. Since the site update went on a feature reduction across the board, we no longer do it, but will resume soon(tm). That's good to know, thanks for the info.
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2009.08.08 00:49:00 - [377] FYI, we're working on our own cache reading library. See this thread for more details. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Krinthe Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.08.09 18:13:00 - [378] Thank You for creating this program. It has saved me TONS of time. Before this program was pointed out to me, I was literally warping region to region (Essence, Verge Vender, Genesis, Sinq Laison, Everyshore) physically writing down on 3x5 index cards items in the market and then comparing profits vs. time/routes. I went thru 2 whole stacks of index cards before I found this program. It was somewhat rewarding at first, finding a good trade route on my own, but the 2+ hours I was spending running around before I made a single trade became a real drag real quick. I was the type of player who didnt like to use 3rd party programs to help with my gaming as I felt this was somewhat like cheating and removing the sensation of acomplishment from the game. After some thought, I concluded this isnt cheating, rather its a tool to help get the job done. Being married and father of 2 kids, I only have a few hours a week Im able to play. Your program allows me to PLAY the game instead of WORKing to play. Thank You!!!! A 10th of all I earn I keep for myself.
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2009.08.09 22:15:00 - [379] You're very welcome I hope our ongoing improvements will make your life even easier. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Krinthe Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.08.10 18:03:00 - [380] Howdy again... I realize ive only been using the program for a short time, so I might be out of line to ask/request this, but its worth a shot... Inside of the Trade section of Central, It does have the option for it to filter out low-sec routes when possible, however, the systems that are shown are not labeled with their security status regardless. I know that after some time, I will become more familiar to which systems are low-sec and which are high-sec, but in the meantime, my thoughts are that it would be a nice addition to your program if each system labeled had its sec-status next to it so I can see at a glance if its low or high. In addition to that or perhaps just this, when Central tells you the "to" and "from" and its going to be a 6 system jump, perhaps having those 6 systems listed along with their associated sec-status "colored" dot next to the name. Similar to how ingame when you Set Destination, It lists the names of all the systems you will have to go thru along with their colored dot, i.e. yellow=.5, orange=.4 - .3, red=.2 - .1 I havent the slightest clue as to how difficult that would be to do or if its even possible, so forgive me if I ask for too much from an already GREAT program. I just thought I would toss in the request for this modification as this was the main question I kept asking myself when I would find a route...."Is the route going thru low-sec? How bout the other 4 systems I have to go thru to get from the "from" to the "to" area of the route. IMO, I think that would be a great addition to your program. Hope my idea wasnt insulting or anything A 10th of all I earn I keep for myself.

vsilverleaf1 Caldari Meat Locker	Posted - 2009.08.21 04:06:00 - [381] FYI Looks like the new rigs are not showing up in eve-central. I have uploaded valid market data and the uploader seems to send it up correctly, but I can't confirm that it is.
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation	Posted - 2009.08.22 18:42:00 - [382] Aye, same problem Kaladr, any idea when the new rigs will be up on the market?
Muscaat ASCENTIS CORPORATION Free Worlds Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.22 21:21:00 - [383] Originally by: vsilverleaf1 FYI Looks like the new rigs are not showing up in eve-central. I have uploaded valid market data and the uploader seems to send it up correctly, but I can't confirm that it is. I can confirm that there is data being uploaded and available via the api, just not browsable on the site yet. ---------- EVE Markets - global price trends at your fingertips
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation	Posted - 2009.09.06 22:19:00 - [384] I'm still not seeing the new rigs, is anyone else still having this problem?
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Slightly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.09.07 12:00:00 - [385] Originally by: Kaladr Little known fact: EVE-Central was reading EVE-Metrics market data, back in EveMetrics 1.0. Since the site update went on a feature reduction across the board, we no longer do it, but will resume soon(tm). You may already know this, but we've now got daily incremental and full order dumps available. You can read the docs over here: http://eve-metrics.com/api/csv. Compared to our old APIs that should be a piece of cake to work with for scraping our data into your app. Originally by: Desmont McCallock EVE Central could really use the uploader tool that EVE Metrics has. EVE Metrics Uploader tool is better than EVE Central's but EVE Central has better service than EVE Metrics. Why can't those two combine? We'd be up for talking about it :) but it's never really come up before. We'll be opening the source to our uploader soon, though we're working on a new version that will support OAuth for connecting your EVE Metrics account with the uploader as well as other operating systems (OSX and Linux). As for EM being better than EC.. well, EC still wins hands down on the route finder functionality and so on. We're still playing catch-up there. We do have some major new features coming out in EM2.1 which should be released in the next few days; there's more on that on my blog if you're interested. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer Charactr (NEW) \| EVE Metrics \| I Tweet
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.08 01:31:00 - [386] Rig data should be there. I will have to triple check on why you can't browse it (hmm). We're working hard on Contribtastic! (the EVE-Central uploader version 2) which uses libevecache (our open source cache reader library). We're also in the middle of making the entire site codebase available under the AGPL. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
BeanBagKing Ch3mic4l Warfare Gypsy Nation	Posted - 2009.09.10 18:59:00 - [387] Is it just me (for what reason I don't know), or is it everyone that can't browse the new rigs? I'm just confused as to why this would be. For example, I search "Capacitor Control Circuit I" I see buy and sell orders, if I search "Large Capacitor Control Circuit I" I get... Quote: You searched the items list for for Large Capacitor Control Circuit I. 0 results: am I doing it right? there should be something returned for that correct?
SonOfMsquare	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:37:00 - [388] Site seems to have gone down? Main site reports 503. Mail feed seems to have stopped around 13:00 today.
Janeo Brock	Posted - 2009.09.19 20:09:00 - [389] EVE-Central site still down - over 12 hours now.
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.19 23:09:00 - [390] Unborked. Please resume your normal fun activities :-) ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser

RAW23	Posted - 2009.09.19 23:39:00 - [391] I had alot of success at the start of my career using eve central (many thanks!). However, I was recently told that the data dumps could be manually edited to, for example, remove a nice trade by changing the figures, thus avoiding competition for the first person to find that route. Is this the case? If so, doesn't that make the whole site potentially useless? I say potentially because there are obviously not enough people currently doing this to completely break it (otherwise I wouldn't have had any success) but I would really like to know if this is genuinely possible before relying on the site again.
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.09.19 23:55:00 - [392] Originally by: RAW23 I had alot of success at the start of my career using eve central (many thanks!). However, I was recently told that the data dumps could be manually edited to, for example, remove a nice trade by changing the figures, thus avoiding competition for the first person to find that route. Is this the case? If so, doesn't that make the whole site potentially useless? I say potentially because there are obviously not enough people currently doing this to completely break it (otherwise I wouldn't have had any success) but I would really like to know if this is genuinely possible before relying on the site again. I've done this many times. Why don't you test it out for yourself. In fact, export something like Trit in The Forge, find the export file, delete everything and upload it. See if there's any orders in The Forge when you look up Trit.
Kaladr Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.20 04:36:00 - [393] Originally by: RAW23 I had alot of success at the start of my career using eve central (many thanks!). However, I was recently told that the data dumps could be manually edited to, for example, remove a nice trade by changing the figures, thus avoiding competition for the first person to find that route. Is this the case? If so, doesn't that make the whole site potentially useless? I say potentially because there are obviously not enough people currently doing this to completely break it (otherwise I wouldn't have had any success) but I would really like to know if this is genuinely possible before relying on the site again. Sure is. The only defence against it would be the client signing each export, but that's basically not going to happen. Even the cache reading method is vulnerable to this "problem". The best solution we have is volume. The more people that use it, the better the overall reliability is. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser
Pinky Panther Gallente Southern Cross Incorporated Flying Dangerous	Posted - 2009.09.20 13:27:00 - [394] Do you think you could make a filter on the site for systems? For example, choose 3 systems in 3 different regions to display prices for? I like the tool btw.


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