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Ratcattle
Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:12:00 -
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Hi Kaladr,
I uploaded a lot of mineral market files (e.g. megacyte from sinq and essence) but even 10 minutes later the orders don't show up in the market browser. I tried it a few times. Thanks for your great work so far!
Regards
Ratcattle
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Ratcattle
Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:40:00 -
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Hm ok, seems to be my mistake. The market browser now only shows the 25 best sell and buy orders. Sorry
Regards
Ratcattle
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Kaladr
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 23:46:00 -
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A new blog entry about our recent mostly smooth upgrade and plans for new tools has been posted. Feel free to comment
---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
Kaladr
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ratcattle Hi Kaladr,
I uploaded a lot of mineral market files (e.g. megacyte from sinq and essence) but even 10 minutes later the orders don't show up in the market browser. I tried it a few times. Thanks for your great work so far!
Regards
Ratcattle
The in game browser will limit the size of the page to about 25 each. Don't view it in-game in general, so you can see more than 25 orders. The IGB sucks
There were some issues with our upgrade where uploads were not being entered into the system correctly. This (should) be rectified. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
Vega Vuf
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Posted - 2008.04.04 11:53:00 -
[275]
Hmm is it supposed to only show 25 entries on the page now or will it be fixed?
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Jack Tremaine
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:10:00 -
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I wonder is there any way to automate the exporting of market details for certain (or all??!) items to the market logs folder? I'm doing it manually atm.
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Vega Vuf Hmm is it supposed to only show 25 entries on the page now or will it be fixed?
This issue has been fixed ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
Kaladr
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Posted - 2008.04.05 00:01:00 -
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I've updated the XML API to a new version (but don't worry, the old version is still running along). Cleaner, better documented, more features, and even a bit faster. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
sun seller
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Posted - 2008.04.10 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: sun seller on 10/04/2008 23:38:55 hm, the download file seems to be broken; only 980kb then it stops. so maybe someone could contact someone ?
http://www.eve-central.com/dl/evec_setup_1_3_1.exe |
Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.11 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: sun seller Edited by: sun seller on 10/04/2008 23:38:55 hm, the download file seems to be broken; only 980kb then it stops. so maybe someone could contact someone ?
http://www.eve-central.com/dl/evec_setup_1_3_1.exe
Try using Firefox. Some people have reported IE will just hack the file apart. Cause is under investigation. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
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Jaarlax
Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.04.11 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48 is the v2 data calculated differently? looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2. i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results
it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway?
Edit i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match. EG http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash) http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita) or do i need to run seperate queries per region?
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Kanadesh
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Posted - 2008.04.11 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kanadesh on 11/04/2008 19:00:48
Originally by: Jaarlax Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48 is the v2 data calculated differently? looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2. i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results
it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway?
Edit i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match. EG http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash) http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita) or do i need to run seperate queries per region?
I'm having similar problems.
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Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.11 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kaladr on 11/04/2008 19:04:17
Originally by: Jaarlax Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48 is the v2 data calculated differently? looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2. i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results
it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway?
Edit i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match. EG http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash) http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita) or do i need to run seperate queries per region?
I'll look into it. Something is looking fishy.
Edit: It looks to be a case of minimum quantity - its being applied to sell & buy, but not all. Oops. I'll fix it in the next site push. ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
Jaarlax
Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.04.11 19:35:00 -
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i didnt set a minq, i thought maybe it was ignoring the first region limit or averaging both selected regions as it only errors when multi regions are selected
cool you spotted the problem tho :)
Thanks
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Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jaarlax i didnt set a minq, i thought maybe it was ignoring the first region limit or averaging both selected regions as it only errors when multi regions are selected
cool you spotted the problem tho :)
Thanks
marketstat for minerals still has an (undocumented) minimum quantity filter to screen out the usual riffraff of orders. I'll update the documentation with the next upgrade (sometime next week). ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
Kename Fin
Caldari Reaver79 Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:21:00 -
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Where can I post/ask questions about the Mac OS X .app bundle of the market reports tool?
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Dal Rath
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Posted - 2008.04.27 09:31:00 -
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Quote: IĈm also mulling over a possible Premium subscription to EVE-Central.
Hi Kaladr
Interesting idea. I'd like to hear more about your thinking here. In particular, I've been considering two aspects: how to provide incentives to users to upload data and how a charging model would interact with other sites using your various data feeds.
Providing some form of improved service to users who upload market data, perhaps in the form of subsidized subscriptions or 'uploader only' features would perhaps increase the data available, but would require some safe guards to prevent people uploading junk data just to qualify for the benefits. Do you have any plans for something like this?
Charging for services whilst leaving the data feeds free runs the risk of simply driving traffic to other sites that offer the same service using the free data but don't charge, or charge less, to end users. Of course taking load off your server may be a good thing, but reducing your subscription revenue probably is not. Do you plan to introduce any kind of restrictions on the ability of 3rd party services using your data to charge for it? For that matter, do you plan on starting to charge for the feeds? |
Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.29 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Rath
Quote: IĈm also mulling over a possible Premium subscription to EVE-Central.
Hi Kaladr
Interesting idea. I'd like to hear more about your thinking here. In particular, I've been considering two aspects: how to provide incentives to users to upload data and how a charging model would interact with other sites using your various data feeds.
Providing some form of improved service to users who upload market data, perhaps in the form of subsidized subscriptions or 'uploader only' features would perhaps increase the data available, but would require some safe guards to prevent people uploading junk data just to qualify for the benefits. Do you have any plans for something like this?
Charging for services whilst leaving the data feeds free runs the risk of simply driving traffic to other sites that offer the same service using the free data but don't charge, or charge less, to end users. Of course taking load off your server may be a good thing, but reducing your subscription revenue probably is not. Do you plan to introduce any kind of restrictions on the ability of 3rd party services using your data to charge for it? For that matter, do you plan on starting to charge for the feeds?
The subscription-for-upload part is something I have been planning. The base tools will remain free, as well as the APIs and feeds. The advanced tools will be inexpensive or free with certain pre-requisites. I know others have created tools and other sites based on the datasets - my goal is to provide non-developers with similar tools for a little ISK on the side which are available with little hassle or setup.
I know others will probably freely make available tools similar to the ones I have up - once that happens I may reconsider portions of the premium access model. I've mulled about making "premium" uploads which would be time delayed for non-subscribers and API access, but have large reservation for implementing that idea.
My goal is still to provide open access to the markets ---- EVE-Central.com - Your EVE economic and corporate site, featuring the inter-region market browser |
Dal Rath
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Posted - 2008.04.30 09:48:00 -
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Thanks for the update. I'm working on some trade finding tools built on top of the eve-central data. I've opted for a more thorough but more computationally intensive algorithm than you use. Before I release it I'd like to solve two problems: how to provide priority service to people who provide eve-central with uploads and how to rate limit the rest.
Is there any way to query eve-central for the uploader information? e.g. an API that I can send a character name or CCP API limited key to and get back a reputation indicator of some sort? Some meta-data in the mail feed that would show the user id of the person uploading would also work, but I'd need some way of relating eve-central user accounts to CCP accounts/characters I guess. An openid like system would be really nice, or reusing CCPs API key mechanism in some way perhaps.
As for limiting usage, one option is simply to cap the number of queries a user can perform per unit time. However, I'd prefer to charge isk and give some of that back to eve-central. Any objection to a business model of that sort?
Just out of idle curiosity, how many hits do you get on the site? I know what the upload volume is via the mail feed, but it would be really interesting to see a breakdown of e.g. search volume by item or region. Some interesting market meta data to be had there perhaps. |
Jaarlax
Ratty Corp PLC Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:47:00 -
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anyone having trouble connexting at the mo?
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Mephistocles
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.05.01 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jaarlax anyone having trouble connexting at the mo?
Yeah, seems to be down completely.
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Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jaarlax anyone having trouble connexting at the mo?
Something happened. I've undone the happening and other good stuff is happening now. |
Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Rath Thanks for the update. I'm working on some trade finding tools built on top of the eve-central data. I've opted for a more thorough but more computationally intensive algorithm than you use. Before I release it I'd like to solve two problems: how to provide priority service to people who provide eve-central with uploads and how to rate limit the rest.
Is there any way to query eve-central for the uploader information? e.g. an API that I can send a character name or CCP API limited key to and get back a reputation indicator of some sort? Some meta-data in the mail feed that would show the user id of the person uploading would also work, but I'd need some way of relating eve-central user accounts to CCP accounts/characters I guess. An openid like system would be really nice, or reusing CCPs API key mechanism in some way perhaps.
As for limiting usage, one option is simply to cap the number of queries a user can perform per unit time. However, I'd prefer to charge isk and give some of that back to eve-central. Any objection to a business model of that sort?
Just out of idle curiosity, how many hits do you get on the site? I know what the upload volume is via the mail feed, but it would be really interesting to see a breakdown of e.g. search volume by item or region. Some interesting market meta data to be had there perhaps.
I'll work on adding some uploader API information.
I haven't broken down object searched, etc yet, though could. Not counting API and IGB access, I get about 1 million pageviews a month. I easily get 5x more API traffic than pageviews though. |
Kent Halo
Gallente Conspiracy of One
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Posted - 2008.05.06 11:58:00 -
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Hmm, is the site down, or is it just me? |
Paula Quartz
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Posted - 2008.05.21 17:12:00 -
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It doesn't work in Mac OS X Leopard. Client crashes on launch |
Capt Evil
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Posted - 2008.05.22 07:12:00 -
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When I try to install the uploader client evec_setup_1_3_1.exe I get an error message:
"NSIS Error, the installer you are trying to use is corrupted or incomplete. This could be the result of a dmanaged disk or a failed download or a virus. blah blah blah....."
I have downloaded the file three times, tried the install from local drive and network share and on two seperate machines, same mesage every time, and yes I am downloading the windows version and not the Mac version.
All my machines run XP Pro SP2 |
Hung Farlow
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Posted - 2008.06.27 00:15:00 -
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Is the site down for anyone else today?
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Alyx Farstrider
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Posted - 2008.07.03 11:43:00 -
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Sorry if this has been answered already - I couldn't find it.
What does the "movement" field signify? The difference between the total initial volumes of the sell/buy orders and the total remaining volumes of the buy/sell orders?
It seems quite difficult to estimate "volume sold" based on this figure, since the duration of the buy orders can vary a great deal.
Thanks for the awesome tool!
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Sysion
Core Research Expedition
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Posted - 2008.07.08 04:36:00 -
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I was curious how movement was calculated as well... one issued I think there could be is that when an order sells out, how do you know? If someone is selling 1 million units of Tritanium and someone buys the whole order, how is that accounted for in the market logs? Seems like the order would drop off from it, but nothing showing the sale.
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Vorda69
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Posted - 2008.07.08 20:04:00 -
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WTF, the Market uploader deletes all your logs from the eve marketlogs folder??????
OK, that was my first and last upload, lost all my logs now, didnt have a backup
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