This isnt hate.

I - and I am sure others - are all for T2 versions of the other BC hulls.
Just dont slap them on Commandships.

I don't like the idea of changing the models in general tbh. Command ships have always struck me as filling more than just a combat role therefore their current models being more suitable for them than the more aggressive models of the attack(assault?) battle cruisers. The Prophecy model, for example, looks like something that is supposed to hold the line and survive serious DPS while its pilot commands the fleet. The pilot of a harby however would be expected to focus on doing damage, not lead a team.

This is just my aesthetic opinion though but seeing as this is mostly an aesthetic change I believe my argument to be relevant.

It's a fat chicken. Fat chickens don't command, they just flop around then decapitated. We need something more sleek for the role. I'd say the oracle, but the role is too far divorced from a command ship, thus I'll settle for the harb.

If your gonna change my Nighthawk to a Drake then give me back my 6 missile slot

Still not going to be useful. But making the sliepner look like a cane is just plain bad..

I also want to let you guys know that nothing in these changes affects any timeline for getting special models onto these ships. Updating T2 ships with specialized models is a long-term project the Art guys are working on in every expansion, and that will continue. These changes are not being made "instead" of model changes, they are completely seperate and don't take any significant amount of time away from the other ongoing art projects such as the new sisters ships and the revamped marauder models.

There are no longer such things as fleet or combat command ships. That distinction was removed when we rebalanced the class.

And just to be clear we're still early on and nothing is set in stone at this point. What I don't want to do however is make kneejerk changes before more people have had a chance to try them out and give the alternate hulls a chance on Sisi.. Take the time to check them out on Sisi and let the idea settle in, keep letting us know what you think. We will continue to be taking feedback for quite a while.

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That was the first mistake. If they're not going to have distinct roles, then you may as well just have four ships instead of eight.
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I'll never understand this, why exactly would different ships with different properties but the same role be so redundant to the game that they might as well be removed?

I'd understand and support your opinion if it was to resurrect the killed off ship role, but you're actually leaning towards advocating the removal of ships because of a principle that there should only exist one ship per role per faction; I've seen this opinion before and I'll always end up surprised that this at all can seem as a reasonable pursuit.


I'd love to have countless same faction ships with similar and overlapping properties and hulls having the same role, it is realistic, fun and nobody wants to be pigeon holed into one single ship and hull for one role or play style.

I know a lot of people don't like the changes, for example, the Sleipnir being a Cane now. I was thinking about this, and I was wondering if all command ship hulls made before Rubicon retain the classic look, and maybe get some sort of prefix/suffix (I.E. "Legacy Eos"/Eos Legacy Edition"), and all command ships built after Rubicon have the new looks.

This way, people who like the old hulls can still fly them, and those who like the new ones can fly those.

this is a nice idea i had another idea :

what it ships have the skin of the ship they are invented from (sleip beeing possibly invented from hurrocane or cyclone)etc....


but this wont happen because of the same reason: "It will be to confuseing esp for new players etc....."

not to mention the new absolution is a tampon worst of all a BLOODY RED TAMPON!!!!!!!! .

they don't really look like "command" ships anymore..

waiting for confirmation on theses issues.