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Sir Bartfraze
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:17:00 -
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Why would you want to change two of the most unique and interesting looking ships (Nighthawk/Sleipnir) to literally the most boring and uninspired hulls there are? I can see the need for a remodelling, but why not wait for when you actually got the new models done...and i hope by god those will be based on the Ferox and the Cyclone hulls.
Because the one thing this game does not need are more Hurricanes and Drakes. |
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1234
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:18:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:can you please make the claymore a hurricane hull instead?
reasons:
1. black hurricane
2. everyone loves the sleipnir as it is currently
t.
I like this approach. |
The Chronophage
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:48:00 -
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finally, a tech 2 drake. +1 |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1248
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:53:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:More posts! One of the changes we were investigating for Odyssey 1.1 but had to drop due to time was adjustments to the models of half the command ships. The goal would be to move them over to hulls that match the T1 combat BC that shares their weapon type, creating some more variety, opening up options for the art guys in the future, and making the differences between the command ships more intuitive. This is something that first got discussed by us in this Features and Ideas thread. Feedback was overwhelmingly positive but obviously there are strong feelings about a lot of this stuff. The Sleipnir in particular creates very strong feelings for me. The plan is: Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger
Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon
Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake
Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane
This change would affect the visuals of each of those four ships, as well as manufacturing and invention for them. For that reason I want to get it announced as early as possible. This change would not affect the stats or bonuses of the ships at all. Any changes to those are an entirely different discussion. Here's a gallery of screenshots I took of the new graphics from our internal test server.I know this is going to generate a lot of strong feelings due to nostalgia and I share many of those feelings. However I truly think these new versions look amazing and that in the long run this is a change that people will look back on as an obvious positive. Let us know what you think.
Couldn't like this post more than once....grrr 
Its such a positive change and a many times asked one for obvious reasons. Of course some don't like change and will feel :hard feelings hurt: but at the end of the day all it matters is that this awesome change makes sense.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
JellyMons
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:58:00 -
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So what will eve be like when there's nothing left in it from the past? |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
672
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:08:00 -
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jiwuuut wrote:We are seeing enough Drakes and Hurricanes as is already.
I dont even know the last time I saw a drake or hurricane. |
Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
106
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:21:00 -
[217] - Quote
I hate to say this, but
Do.
Not.
Want.
While the Harbinger hull for the Absolution looks nice and all, the thought of my War Chicken of DoomGäó no longer actually looking like a War Chicken of DoomGäó greatly disappoints me. I absolutely love the Abso's current appearance and despise the thought of having it changed.
As far as the Eos is concerned, this is the only one of the command ship model changes that I can get behind. The Myrmidon hull is sexy, though the skin could definitely use some coloration; right now it's just bland. Perhaps going with a lighter base hull color and then coloring parts of it emerald green in homage to the old Eos look?
For the Nighthawk, I've always loved its appearance, even if it hasn't been usable in practice due to having insufficient midslots. Now, with the move to the Drake hull, it is both sub-par in capability and poor in appearance (I'm not a fan of the Drake's appearance). If it absolutely has to be moved to the Drake, at least make the base coloration black and limit the red highlights to specific areas of the ship instead of giving it red tiger stripes.
The Sleipnir hull was always great due to its resemblance to a freight train; if you saw one of these coming at you, its appearance exactly matched the type of fight you were going to experience from it. The Hurricane hull, on the other hand, lacks this visceral sense of impending doom. Moreover, the way the camo pattern on the proposed hull was done really breaks up the outline of the ship, making it wavering and indistinct instead of being solid and threatening. Perhaps switch to solid, alternating plates of black and rust on the various hull pieces? Additionally, it would be nice if some forward-facing lights could be included in homage to the old Sleipnir appearance. |
Hell Bitch
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:23:00 -
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Please change the Claymore and not the Sleipnir, we already have 2 AC using hurricane models, do we need a 3rd?
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Jane Shapperd
Sanctuary Reapers II
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:43:00 -
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Love the model change.
i am looking forward to see them  |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
43
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:46:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Couldn't like this post more than once....grrr Its such a positive change and a many times asked one for obvious reasons. Of course some don't like change and will feel :hard feelings hurt: but at the end of the day all it matters is that this awesome change makes sense.
It would be awesome if it was new models. Recycling the ****** models for this is not awesome. It's just lazy.
CCP, better go and work since we are paying your for that! Give us awesome models and not just recycling trash.
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Callic Veratar
468
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:53:00 -
[221] - Quote
We have this thing for the Caldari Shipyard paint jobs. Is there something similar for the other 3 factions? |
Zenethian
Rules of Acquisition
Acquisition Of Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:59:00 -
[222] - Quote
I seriously hope that you're not changing the names of the ships, just the models.
Because those names would be god damned terrible.
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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
11
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:59:00 -
[223] - Quote
NOOOOOOOO....
If you really want to change the ships, can't you just grab completely new hull... or the "tier 3" hulls??? Come'on Hurricane already has navy version... I invested a lot of skillpoints into gunnery because of Sleip... I hate 'cane hull so I'm gonna probs fly Claymore from now on, but that means my gunnery skills are just waste and I have to spend time on missiles which I do not like as much... But better spit missiles then look at that ugly piece of crap.
DAMN... You made me very VERY sad. |
Marcus Greengale
Vector Prime Industries
27
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:10:00 -
[224] - Quote
Disgusting!
Absolution and Nighthawk have the best hull design among ALL eve ships and you are going to ruin it! Why not to change the BlackbirdGÇÖs one instead? My eyeballs have always been melted out of my head every time I take a closer look on it!
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Ariesen Serenity
SRE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:12:00 -
[225] - Quote
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar wrote:NOOOOOOOO....
If you really want to change the ships, can't you just grab completely new hull... or the "tier 3" hulls???
I love the EOS change. Who honestly wants another Drake, and Red Chicken of Doom...meh I like the red Harby hull I guess. With the Cane being my favorite Minny Hull, I was happy to see that change, until I realized, we have 2 Canes already! Why add a third?
However, I'll give up the t2 Myrm for a t2 Talos. And if a Minny complains about flying a FREAKING VERTICAL Sliep...something wrong with them. That's enough to make me go back to the Sliep! The Naga is one of the coolest hulls...would love to see it as a Vulture (and leave the NH the Ferox hull). And the Oracle...WHO DOESN'T WANT ONE IN RED????
Lets at least get away from the most used hulls, and go with the new BC tier 3 hulls
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FightingMoose
Norse'Storm Battle Group
8
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:16:00 -
[226] - Quote
All these pubbies complaining about how they are going to change ships because the new ones aren't "pretty enough" are amusing. Building new models would be a waste of the art department's time; I'd much rather they be working on new SOE ships, the animations/models for the bastion model, etc.
I think these are welcome changes; it only makes sense to have different models for different T2 ships, especially using separate weapons systems.
Proud owner of an Ibis. |
TekGnosis
Rules of Acquisition
Acquisition Of Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:17:00 -
[227] - Quote
I'm actually kinda bummed at the prospect of losing the laser chicken. Prophecy hull shooting lasers really does have a great presence. I suppose in the end new models anyway...
Also... moar drake? Ain't nobody got time for dat.
I bet Absolution would be epic with medium hardpoints on an Oracle hull with an nice paint job. The T3BC models are quite good, maybe leverage those? |
Lord Moridin
Big Shadows
Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:18:00 -
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No no no, this is a horrible idea. Why exactly? Because those people at the art department thought it looked nice.
All t1 hulls and no sleipnir makes Thor a dull boy
Give the t1 hulls this look instead, t1 hulls looks pretty booring anyways |
Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
14
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:21:00 -
[229] - Quote
Yes - as someone said - the Sleip is iconic ... but its also the missile boat (coming from the recently missileified Cyclone).
Would be nice to have a 'black cane' for the Claymore, but it would be odd continuity wise. Maybe a black cane for Sleip - Hotblack Desatio and Islington all over. |
Dyfchris
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:22:00 -
[230] - Quote
Two differente hull for command ship cool
Eos looks like Myrm cool
I'm happy  |
MrLuciferi
Black Thorne Corporation
The Cursed Few
1
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:22:00 -
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No no no no no!
Don't do it!
Please don't!!! |
Dyfchris
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:22:00 -
[232] - Quote
del... |
Goti fase
Fase Industries
24
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:33:00 -
[233] - Quote
Should the harbinger hull not be used for the Damnation instead of the Absolution? |
Wiu Ming
Dracos Dozen
56
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:36:00 -
[234] - Quote
i admit the new graphics look great and all.
with that said, do what you want with the nighthawk and whatever the hell the gallente ship is but PLEASE leave the beloved abso and sleipnir as is. changing those legendary ships would be like, oh hell i dunno, offering up gold magnates on some lame-ass out-of-game scamming gambling site or something... |
Ariesen Serenity
SRE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:38:00 -
[235] - Quote
no, they are trying to match t1 BC weapon system to t2 C-ship. |
BAJRAN BALI
Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc.
Monkeys with Guns.
21
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:38:00 -
[236] - Quote
So what would be happening to the old hulls? I mean new ones look great, but what about the old ones? |
Takezo Kensei
Session9
Malum Exuro
2
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:47:00 -
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No, just no!
Abso, sleip, nh have their _iconic_ models, which suit them _extremely_ well. Even the astarte looks cool in the brutix model. Abso and sleip especially look really badass and those models really deserve to stay!
On top of it who the hell wants to fly another drake!?! Or a cane for that matter?? Didn't you guys gave us navy BC's already? I'm really sorry but _none_ of the new hulls look as great as the old ones.
Wtf is team 5-0 thinking? You guys bored in office, no important stuff to work on so you're shitting on the command ships models??
Astarte / damnation / sleip - why on earth would anyone want them changed?? Just for the sake of standardization?
A definitive NO to these ridiculous changes!
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Michael J Caboose
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:58:00 -
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I really dislike these changes. The harbinger is one of the ugliest hulls in Eve, and glitchy to boot. If the abso gets changed to the harbinger hull, I'll probably never undock in an abso again. Life's too short to fly ugly ships. A big thumbs down to the changes to the sleip and nighthawk as well. |
elitatwo
Congregatio
128
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:59:00 -
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Just dropping in to sign my approval.
WTB EOS right naaow!!
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Gorgoth24
Sickology
Dead Terrorists
47
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Posted - 2013.10.03 16:59:00 -
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+1 for this one, love this idea |
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