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Ozzymandias Duskwalker
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
6
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:41:00 -
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OTMOROSOK wrote:Someone has posted the good idea about the design competition. CCP why don't You do this?!
If You are really short of ideas about ship design why don't You tell the players: "You asked us for the new ships and we want new ships! Please send us 3d models of them (for example, in 3DS MAX format or VRML) and link rendered shipGÇÖs images in JPEG format in this thread of this forum. The winner gets a 10 years of EVE's free subscription, unique collectors ships (like in alliance tournament) and the main fiture: his nick would be placed in the description of that ship like: GÇÿAbsolution is a command ship designed by famous Player BillGÇÖ."
Let the players see the ideas of the other players and choose the best one.
This. You already did the same for the Oracle. |
Dovhakiin
Aviarium
0
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:37:00 -
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I saw the new hulls on SiSi. But i can speack only for the Nighthawk and the Sleipnir.
Please NO., NO, NO, don-¦t do this.
No more Drake Hull.
No more Hurricane Hull.
I love this two ships, how they are now.
Or gives us new models.
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Hadewijch
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:26:00 -
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The horror, the horror.
The Absolution looks plain terrible - a bloody red tampon indeed. At least invert the colours if nothing else, so much red looks ridiculous. Also, tone down the gold. |
Sky Falcorr
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:11:00 -
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Dovhakiin wrote:
No more Drake Hull.
No more Hurricane Hull.
+1 on this.
and i also prefer Brutix hull instead of Myrm as well =\ |
Aglais
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:34:00 -
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SysteMGhosT wrote:For all those years we've lived and died with them, now they are supposed to be replaced by this 3rd rate crap? Please don't CCP 
Baawwwww.
Why don't you go support a cause that actually matters, like the fact that Marauders still won't really have a role in PvP, and are now so slow in literally everything that CCP has basically stealth buffed T3s for mission running. That, these failed stat changes to a ship class that as far as I can tell is dead in the water in all possible scenarios, is "being replaced by this 3rd rate crap". Literally. The Marauders, as they are now, are being replaced, such is the huge gulf in method of use compared to now.
The Drake hull isn't bad. You're just tired of seeing them because for a long time, HML drakes were one of the only viable things in PvP (which was due to a crux of stats and abilities- that and everything else being crap). I bet it'll be the exact same for the Hurricane hulled Sleipnir- though I DO think that it'd be very good for CCP to consider not having another space-camo Hurricane.
Also, I thought everyone had their cameras zoomed way out in the large fleet fights that command ships typically find themselves in, making all of this whining a moot point anyways. |
Axon Magnus
axis Phalanx sect
3
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:18:00 -
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Echo Mande
61
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:19:00 -
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Are there any plans to alter the invention or manufacturing requirements for the remodeled command ships? If so I would imagine that builders would like some time to buy/research/copy new BPCs before Rubicon. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
777
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:24:00 -
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Echo Mande wrote:Are there any plans to alter the invention or manufacturing requirements for the remodeled command ships? If so I would imagine that builders would like some time to buy/research/copy new BPCs before Rubicon.
From the op wrote:This change would affect the visuals of each of those four ships, as well as manufacturing and invention for them. For that reason I want to get it announced as early as possible. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
723
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:26:00 -
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Between the new SoE ships not being done yet, the new Golem not being done yet, the Marauders' Bastion Mode animations not all being done yet and all the other little things that the art department is working on like ISIS and the new character select, who exactly is supposed to make these new models? Every single one of you will howl like a wounded hyena if you don't get your SoE ships and your remodeled marauders with their full and complete bastion animations exactly on Nov 19th and you know it.
The CS models will get changed to proper T2 variants when they get to them. In the meantime, either apply to work in the art department or HTFU.
Aglais wrote:Also, I thought everyone had their cameras zoomed way out in the large fleet fights that command ships typically find themselves in, making all of this whining a moot point anyways. QFT. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
290
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:14:00 -
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As I see it, the entire relationship between the BC and CS types is messed up.
For instance, the Prophecy hull is all curves and yet it has slots for missile launchers which, being angular and non-retracting, look horribly out of place on it. Same situation on the Damnation. On the other hand, turrets would look fine lined up on the Harbinger's weapon sponsons.
Swapping the high slot layouts of the two hulls would correct this situation and make the Prophecy hull the appropriate choice for the Absolution and the Harbinger hull right for the Damnation.
No doubt this would also mean tinkering with cpu and powergrid stats, which I'm sure would be way beyond the scope of what is intended.
In other words, this is a classic "Don't start from here" situation. |
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Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
295
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:30:00 -
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Where's all the Drake love?!
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
290
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Posted - 2013.10.12 06:40:00 -
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Kane Fenris wrote:Tinukeda'ya Naskingar wrote:OTMOROSOK wrote:Dear CCP Fozzie, You've writen:
> The plan is:
> Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger
> Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon
> Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake
> Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane
Have You ever been playing EVE? Have You taken the part in medium or large gangs ever? Let's imagine that You are saying in team speaker: "Primary Boundless Creations Hurricane! Shoot Boundless Creations Hurricane!" Do You really think that this is possible in real fight?
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The player. As mentioned a lot of times already, they are not changing the names. They only said which skin/model that ship will become... Names are safe... you did not understand him  one part of the reasoning for the change was that now models and progression should be optically possible. he was sarcastic, by saying people would actually identify ships like that when the use overview and names ..... so basically the main "gameplay" reasoning for this change is bull****
No, I think Tinukeda'ya got it right.
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Cailus
The Bootcamp
EveryoneVersusEveryone.com.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.12 11:39:00 -
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I may never undock my Sleipnir again 
Gonna be tough getting used to seeing a Cane in it's place. |
Oxide Ammar
Equilibrium Tech Labs
17
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Posted - 2013.10.12 11:48:00 -
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Rather than be creative and come up with new concept models you are using different ships skins and slapping red and blue strips on it....brilliant ! |
Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
Vanguard.
889
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Posted - 2013.10.12 17:38:00 -
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Worst change I've seen in Eve in awhile.
And believe me, there have been some doozies over the years. :(
Do not run. We are your friends. |
Battlingbean
Star Frontiers
Dirt Nap Squad.
23
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:53:00 -
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Where were all you whiners when this idea was proposed? I remember when everyone I knew in EVE thought that a Kaalakiota Drake would be freaking awesome. Now that it is finally here CCP is drowning in tears. I'm surprised they modify the game with all the crying.
I like the changes. Especially the CreoDron Myrmidon.
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CPT Ashen
Old Valyria
0
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:02:00 -
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This is quite upsetting to see the hulls be changed to something so boring. With only the promise of them being modified in the future.
I'd have to agree with the issue of working on something that will be redundant later on. The Tier 1 hulls have always been much more solid designs and their T2 variations a lot more vicious looking. Furthermore the turret layout on these hulls need to be properly attended to.
I'd have to say that I think while the update on the idea of changing their respective hulls over is welcome. Changing them now without making considerable modification is not. Give the design teams their plaything, but keep that bland Hurricane away from my Sleipnir.
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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
19
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:11:00 -
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Battlingbean wrote:Where were all you whiners when this idea was proposed? I remember when everyone I knew in EVE thought that a Kaalakiota Drake would be freaking awesome. Now that it is finally here CCP is drowning in tears. I'm surprised they modify the game at all with this crying.
I like the changes. Especially the CreoDron Myrmidon.
Maybe the fact that the old suggestion was hidden in thread called "About the Eos' model" might have something to do with that... Pilots that do not fly Eos might have simply ignore that one.
Also that one was more like hypothetical. On the other hand this is for real. It's official announcement covering all the Command ships and majority of the command ship pilots is probably reading this.
And from what I see following this thread most of them are against the change but CCP just don't care anyway 'cause the "Feedback was overwhelmingly positive" (-CCP Fozzie) in the previous EOS thread.
I'm still trying to find an alternative ship for me to fly when the Slurricane hits Tranquility... Not really successful so far.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
256
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:49:00 -
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I love this idea and i can't wait to see it go live.
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Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:10:00 -
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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:Brought nighthawk due to ferox hull, am not impressed. Massive dislike!
This.
The other models look great. But plz leave the beautiful Nighthawk as is. Also there is history there: recall rocket wizardry videos. It's such an elegant ship now. Don't waffle it. |
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Denalipro
Yarrtards With Epeen
1
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Posted - 2013.10.14 04:21:00 -
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This is a stupid idea!  |
Denalipro
Yarrtards With Epeen
1
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:04:00 -
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YEp!Tyranis Marcus wrote:Worst change I've seen in Eve in awhile.
And believe me, there have been some doozies over the years. :(
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Sgt Ocker
State War Academy
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.10.14 09:13:00 -
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Drake looks like it had so little thought put into it and it is a DRAKE for gods sake. A drake with T2 resists will simply be the ugly duckling with a red stripe. Hurricane, camo is camo.
A; for effort
F; for result
As a side question on manufacturing the new hulls. If I have Nighthawk BPC's in my hanger at the time of the change, will they remain nighthawks or become Vultures? |
Hanna Cyrus
Paranocxium
Brotherhood Of Silent Space
29
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Posted - 2013.10.14 09:21:00 -
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Please stay the models are they are now or make an election! Many players skilled und bought these ships, becouse thats nasty ships and many of us love the design. I hope you guys have something that is more urgent for ...... |
Aesheera
Blacklight Recon
Strictly Unprofessional
445
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Posted - 2013.10.14 09:24:00 -
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Battlingbean wrote:Where were all you whiners when this idea was proposed? I remember when everyone I knew in EVE thought that a Kaalakiota Drake would be freaking awesome. Now that it is finally here CCP is drowning in tears. I'm surprised they modify the game at all with this crying.
I like the changes. Especially the CreoDron Myrmidon.
Whiners?
No one is against the t2 versions of said BC's.
In fact I welcome T2 Canes, Drakes and Myrms.
Just don't slap them on perfectly fine Commandship hulls.
The complaints are legit: most of these hulls are pretty damn signature to said ships.
Make a new, special BC class to use these hulls for.
Primary since '07. GÖÑ
If It Bleeds, Kill It - II |
Killian Redbeard
Ironhand Research and Industrial Corp
SoulWing Alliance
22
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Posted - 2013.10.14 13:21:00 -
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Leave the Sleipnir as it is, hate the hurricane model. |
Aesheera
Blacklight Recon
Strictly Unprofessional
447
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:08:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:
As a side question on manufacturing the new hulls. If I have Nighthawk BPC's in my hanger at the time of the change, will they remain nighthawks or become Vultures?
The ship itself statistics wise doesn't change, so you can rest assured Nighthawks remain Highthawks.
Primary since '07. GÖÑ
If It Bleeds, Kill It - II |
Case Hakuli
Shooting Red Crosses
0
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:20:00 -
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I'm alright with the change to the Sleipnir as long as there's also an update to the Hurricane model!
Seriously CCP |
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
308
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:09:00 -
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Case Hakuli wrote:I'm alright with the change to the Sleipnir as long as there's also an update to the Hurricane model!
Seriously CCP
update like... return rust and scraps on minmatar hulls?
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
777
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:21:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Drake looks like it had so little thought put into it and it is a DRAKE for gods sake. A drake with T2 resists will simply be the ugly duckling with a red stripe. Hurricane, camo is camo.
A; for effort
F; for result
As a side question on manufacturing the new hulls. If I have Nighthawk BPC's in my hanger at the time of the change, will they remain nighthawks or become Vultures?
Wait, so if it's a drake with a red stripe it's no thought, but the ferox with a red stripe is fine? |
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