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Dark Nephilium
Quiet.Storm Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:07:00 -
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As someone who actually flies ALL the command ships the hull changes are just plain stupid. Essentially all you are doing is giving us another drake, another myrm, another harby, and another cane.......why? The current command ship hulls work perfectly well and there is no reason to make changes for the sake of making changes. This is just stupid for the sake of being stupid IMO. |
Neok1337
20th Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.10.04 03:12:00 -
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yes yes yes and yes
give me a t2 drake hull allready
and while we are on the subject hurry up with the other 3...
tho tbf does make sence that the combat command ships be the t2 variants of the "dps" hulls... I use the term dps very loosely around the drake lol xD |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
914
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Posted - 2013.10.04 03:38:00 -
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Rab See wrote:Yes - as someone said - the Sleip is iconic ... but its also the missile boat (coming from the recently missileified Cyclone).
Would be nice to have a 'black cane' for the Claymore, but it would be odd continuity wise. Maybe a black cane for Sleip - Hotblack Desatio and Islington all over.
Who cares about continuity, if every ship that has a hurricane hull in the game has autocannons, and i like the hurricane but dont like autocannons, i would use the hull that is bonused to missiles that looks like the hurricane. Oh wait, thats nothing after this change. Same goes for the ferox hull. People used it just because it didnt look like a drake. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
350
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Posted - 2013.10.04 04:57:00 -
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the myrm hull on the eos is pretty sexy looking... the rest, I just don't know about.
the sleipnir is just such a t2 cyclone, it doesn't make any sense as a hurricane boo boo boo! You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Meyr
SiN Corp
50
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:09:00 -
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+1!!!!!!!!!! |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
131
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:46:00 -
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I think the existing ships look better in every case, mostly because the current models look beefier than these models. Which works well for a T2 command ship. Also, we see enough of the drake/hurricane/myrm hulls already. |
Carniflex
StarHunt The Explicit Alliance
93
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:22:00 -
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Will this mean that if once would decide to invent a Nighthawk (I know its not economically sensible to invent command ships atm bcos BPO's meeting bulk of the demand) would one need to use a Drake BPC instead of Ferox - or will the change be purely cosmetic and one would be still using Ferox BPC to invent a Drake based T2 hull ? Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Katmande
Northern Lights Outfitters
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:45:00 -
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NO please. I bought a cyclone Blue Print because it was used for both command ships. If you change it you have reduced the value of my Blue Print for a purely cosmetic reason.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1222
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:47:00 -
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Soon on a Sisi test server near you. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
47
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:49:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Don't panic, folks, the names aren't changing! CCP Fozzie wrote:The plan is:
Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane All this means is that e.g.: the Absolution is going to become a Harbinger model with Carthum Conglomerate colours. They're not changing the names, relax! You can put down that pitchfork and douse your torches!
You cannot because the Harbinger and Drake model are crap and design-wise utterly inferior to the Prophecy and Ferox model.
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Shamus en Divalone
Dip Dip Potatoe Chip
3
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Posted - 2013.10.04 07:21:00 -
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If there is a new model for command ships then maybe you should wait to change them, tho I have always believed there should be a 2 models.
I'll carry on training to a command ship when the skills don't require me to train all the Link skills when I will only ever use 2 on a command ship. |
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
149
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:06:00 -
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Asbo, Hell yes. Myrm, oh yeaaaa. NIghthawk.... I kinda liked the Ferox with that paint job. I'll miss the Sleipnir :(
I'd rather new models, but if this change does go through, can we consider adding some extra bits to the models? Similar to how the HACs have extra boosters and such? The proposed Sleipnir model looks quite bland imo. |
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
248
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Posted - 2013.10.04 09:46:00 -
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Eos looks great, it's just a shame the CreoDron colours are so dull compared to the others. Abso looks good too. "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom." |
alexi turov
Neutronium Alchemist's
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:00:00 -
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Already swapped my space chicken for an Astarte based on the hull change. To be honest, Absolution and Sleipnir models shouldn't be changed just for the sake of changing them.
Also; why does everything Minmatar have to be painted to look like a stick (or mossy stick, navy issue?) Some WWII Invasion stripes, battle markings or something bold just to break up the browny, brown camo. |
Cassius Invictus
Thou shalt not kill
37
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:01:00 -
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MisterNick wrote:Eos looks great, it's just a shame the CreoDron colours are so dull compared to the others. Abso looks good too.
No it doesn't. Red & gold looks good on Prophecy hull but not so much on Harbi. Besides Harbi hull is kinda strange looking (someone motioned helicopter without rotor...). I want new models. Besides what is the rationale behind this change? Like seriously...? |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
544
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:07:00 -
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The sleipnir painting is HORRIBLE.
IAnd the hurricane does nto look like a ship with huge shield boostign bonus.
But i think its fair because now the nerfed sleipnir (because it was nerfed proportionally to other CS ) will be on same hull as the overnerfed hurricane (that went from most used BC to I never see any around since others are better on everything) |
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
113
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:17:00 -
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well...
i dont know guys, i always feel bad when i post like this... but don't you have anything better to do. Freshly painted models of ships we know since years... erm, ok.
why not invest that time in ... maybe... POS, yay! that would be a great idea, wouldnt it. I could imagine something like.... access lists... where... i could... just put character names in... just .. like .... in a ..... chat channel access list... nah... maybe not.... that sounds too easy... alrighty... freshly painted ship models then... cowl...
Regards Gal |
Katabrok First
Apukaray Security
47
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:24:00 -
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So'Cari wrote:The models are perfectly fine and whilst it's a shame to lose the iconic Sleipnir it's nothing game breaking.
That being said this is yet another case of having the wrong development priorities. New models aren't contributing to the illusive 'long term vision' (which increasingly sounds like a poor excuse for the complete lack of meaningful short-term development), they don't fit the model of 'themed expansions' and it goes without saying that they contribute nothing in the way of new gameplay options.
I would much prefer future dev time to be spent on balance (great work so far with ships), quality of life improvements and new gameplay features (silly mini-games need not apply). Of course, and then we'd have graphical artists making balance changes. Let's all focus in this! |
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
113
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Posted - 2013.10.04 11:27:00 -
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Katabrok First wrote:So'Cari wrote:The models are perfectly fine and whilst it's a shame to lose the iconic Sleipnir it's nothing game breaking.
That being said this is yet another case of having the wrong development priorities. New models aren't contributing to the illusive 'long term vision' (which increasingly sounds like a poor excuse for the complete lack of meaningful short-term development), they don't fit the model of 'themed expansions' and it goes without saying that they contribute nothing in the way of new gameplay options.
I would much prefer future dev time to be spent on balance (great work so far with ships), quality of life improvements and new gameplay features (silly mini-games need not apply). Of course, and then we'd have graphical artists making balance changes. Let's all focus in this!
well release some graphics artis, hire some game designers... or software developers... maybe?!
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Lina Theist
Rosendal Research and Development
16
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:00:00 -
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[Want to trade] Nighthawk for Vulture
Perhaps it makes sense, but I do not like it. No sir |
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GREYBOBSASS
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.10.04 12:26:00 -
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The sleip and drake are disgusting, You ****** up my EOS abso doesnt look like it should (not bulky enuff) |
Rothwald
Inglourious Squirrels
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:12:00 -
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My poor Sleipnir...don't do that. That simple paintjob is not badass enough, it's just a spotted Hurricane.
Make the Hurricane black with blue lights, like the Claymore, i think i could settle with that.
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thoth rothschild
Aliastra Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:41:00 -
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I'm very mixed.
Eos = great sleipnir = ok absolution = no nighthawk = DON'T
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Kirith Kodachi
Aideron Robotics
15
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:45:00 -
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Absolutely, do this, please.
DO IT NOW! |
So'Cari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:00:00 -
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Katabrok First wrote:Of course, and then we'd have graphical artists making balance changes. Let's all focus in this! Balance changes are all crowd-sourced from F&I and/or "famous PvPers" anyway .
Seriously though, I'm just making the point that - as with Incarna and walking in stations - there can be changes which are perfectly fine per se but aren't the best changes which could have been made. I think that's useful player feedback.
[Suppose you gave me a list of 100 possible changes. If all I do is sort them into 'like' and 'dislike' it will be pretty hard for you to decide which 10 or so to work on. But if I rank them 1 - 100 it's very easy to decide what to work on. So comparative feedback is useful.]
How CCP choose to treat that feeback, how they balance it with their own ideas on what changes to make, how they distribute their budget and who they hire and fire is all important but not really something many of us can have an informed opinion on.
Also I don't like the new Sleipnir (+1 for a mocked-up Claymore version if that's possible) |
Wes Vyvorant
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:20:00 -
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WTS cyclone BPO. Don't think i'll bother with a huricane BPO. Some bored little brat at CCP might think of a new model next year. |
Kane Fenris
NWP
78
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Posted - 2013.10.04 14:38:00 -
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thoth rothschild wrote:I'm very mixed.
Eos = great sleipnir = ok absolution = no nighthawk = DON'T
Eos = great sleipnir = NO!!!! absolution = cool nighthawk = NO!!! |
Ariesen Serenity
SRE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 15:14:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Besides, CCP has no excuses for not introducing new models. Not only do they give us new ships with Rubicon, they (haux or not) also have plans to change other models. And they don't even have to create them themselves (lazy bums). I hope, I don't have to remember CCP of their Create A Starship contest from a couple of years ago? In case I have to: use the Stahlvogel, Evangelos, Precursor and Demora or just scroll through the tons of awesome designs there.
Thank you for linking those. They are beautiful, and would be awesome to fly! I think it would create a huge demand for these C-ships though. Before changing the hulls to those, I think 4 more would need to be chosen for the other C-ships. So to lessen the demand...just use the tier 3 until such time as you can change all 8 C-ships.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
557
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Posted - 2013.10.04 15:22:00 -
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Fozzie, Any chance of getting some "unique" flare to these ships as well? As an example, kronos bridge is different than other megathron models. Can we expect to see small model variations like this for commands and other t2s in the future? |
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
50
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Posted - 2013.10.04 16:50:00 -
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I have no position on the Absolution, Eos, & Nighthawk ship models as I probably won't fly them. As for the Sleipnir I am definitely NOT in favour of changing its model into a Hurricane. How adding a third type of Hurricane into the game in addition to the standard and fleet ones is beyond me. It would not in any way add 'variety' in terms of ship models to the game.
Your comments in the OP suggest that you are not necessarily in favour of desecrating the Sleipnir model so I'm not sure why you are pushing for this idea. Maybe the art department have run out of work to do?
I think CCP's guiding rule should be to fix things that are broken first. The Sleipnir is an iconic ship model rivalling the Rifter and should not be touched again. Making some of the Minmatar ships almost black in colour was enough damage to our ships. Please don't take the Sleipnir away from us.
We all know things that are genuinely broken in the game *glances at Corp Roles & Permissions* so please consider fixing genuinely broken parts of the game first before wrecking unbroken parts on a whim. |
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