Read the EULA, Genius. It isn't your stuff. It never was your stuff.

As for SomerBLINK, however screwed up the arrangement became, in the end, I believe CCP saw SomerBLINK GTC sales as another way to get and keep players in the game, another way to promote Eve Online. Was it haphazard and ill-thought out? yea, a lot of it was. And in the end, CCP changed their policy. End of story.

But my god, users of this forum want this to be fricken' Watergate. Give me a break.

As for being a Somer shill, I've never played SB, I've never bought GTC or anything else from them, and I generally consider gambling as a way to part fools from their money (or ISK, as the case may be.) I could care less if they vanished into thin air. I'm just bloody tired of the bitching and moaning, the tin-foil hattery, the absurd accusations and ideations of conspiracy and back-room deals.

Could CCP have handles this better? yea, probably. Could the community have reacted with a little more maturity and a little less self-entitlement? Judging by this and nearly ever other issue facing Eve players, probably not. That such a thing is true doesn't make it any less pathetic.

Really? They just lost one account over it -- one who told them exactly why in the cancellation form, too. I cancelled my other account just now. This one will be cancelled shortly. I've been thinking about doing it and sitting on the fence but I've made my mind up.

And no, no one can have my stuff. It will rot away.

I need 500mil for an orca, can i haz ur stuff?!

Somer is just making a sensible business decision. They see that their main source of incoming customers is going to close down, so they are trying to get a large influx of customers in now, while they come up with a new way to attract people. Its a sensible business decision for a in game organisation to do, it just happens that this also makes them some dollahs.

Its like CCP always assumes that the forums are just spamming bullsh!t and try to silence the minority by placation.

I am on your side hun.

I am going to stay for at least the release of Rubicon since it is supposed to usher in a new phase of player control according to CCP's word at fanfest and on the site.

In view of the fact that you now know you can trust a sister in the struggle I would be glad to hold a portion of your stuff in escorw for you. Not much maybe 800 million in isk and another 500 million is ships, BPO's and any other goodies laying around.

PM in game and lets get this rolling.

You can has lern to read? Alternately, go attack another hi-sec Procurer with your low-skill Domi and get wrecked, please. I'll be around for a while while my sub runs out so I'll be sure to see it.

Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking?

Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs?

https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.

it'd be ridiculous of CCP to hand out bans for something they previously had a permissive attitude towards.

Why is it whenever I do the common eve responses ... everyone thinks im evil -.- , I got like 50 "can i haz your stuffs" when I was quitting

And where on earth could they possibly have gotten such an idea from?

The vast majority of the forums, in particular GD, is just spamming bullsh!t. People whining about the game and/or the players, and trolls trolling them. Maybe one thread in 20 is actually worth a read.

1B isk bonus?!

OK, I never got involved in the debate before, but 1B isk per card bought is definitely RMT level.

Extremely disrespectful from Somer.

You realise they aren't handing you isk? Its somer credit, there is no way to directly turn that somer isk into in game isk.

You have to gamble it on the lotteries, you could easily come out with nothing.

People rage so much about nothing.

You can directly turn them into ingame ISK with a 20% loss. Just start a blink and buy all the tickets.

1) There is nothing wrong with Somer talking with CCP over Skype.
2) If what "makes you sick" is that nobody is getting banned, it'd be ridiculous of CCP to hand out bans for something they previously had a permissive attitude towards.

It is sickening because we, the playerbase, have gotten the wall of silence throughout this entire affair from CCP, while Somer appears to just be able to call-up CCP whenever he wants to and be all chummy. Keeping in mind that CCP's blatant favoritism towards Somer is what get this whole thing kicked off in the first place.

Again though, your opinion. I see a lot of threads with legitimate concerns that could easily be answered by a CCP rep and settled without issue. But they chose to ignore them, then the trolls get on board and start telling people they are "self-entitled" and "whiners", and "pussies" and saying they are spwewing crap. That's when things take a turn for the worse.

Come to think of it, these words... I've seen them before recently.
Oh yeah: Here
Written by... oh right yeah, it was written by you.

So if CCP decided to ban everyone that buys PLEX using isk cause they decide that everyone must spend real money, they you would be cool with that?

Nothing like banning people for stuff they have been told is allowed.

I could care less

So if CCP decided to ban everyone that buys PLEX using isk cause they decide that everyone must spend real money, then you would be cool with that?

Nothing like banning people for stuff they have been told is allowed.

If the shoe fits, babycakes . . .

This subject took a turn for the worse long, long before I commented on them. The fact is that players of your ilk have been crying and whining about "unfair" and "favoritism" and all sorts of nonsense from the moment this issue broke the surface. It is not enough that CCP reversed their decision on the "special" ships for Somer's EveVEGAS activities, it is not enough that CCP decided to curtail the GTC bonuses, it is not enough that SomerBLINK can no longer conduct business as they have been used to doing, and in fact, the forum warriors see the fact that CCP gave the affiliates 10 days to comply is further evidence of collusion and conspiracy.

Pathetic.

Lets say you own a company and sell Mr Pibb.

You've done that for a few years. You then get notified by the government that you cannot sell Mr Pibb because its illegal. You have 10 day to stop selling Mr Pibb, this is your only warning.

Would you..

1) Throw out your stockpile of Mr Pibb?

2) Have a Mr Pibb Party where you give it away to whoever wants it?

3) Have a Mr Pibb Mass Sale, offloading and cashing in on all the Mr Pibb you have within the 10 day timespan so that you can comply?

I guarantee it'll be #2 or #3.

They were given 10 days, of COURSE they will cash in. They want to bring people TO Somer Blink, so have a mass sale, get as much people to commit isk to Somer, get a bunch of GTC, then watch as the people lose all there isk playing Somer Blink.


It ain't idiotic, its what we all would do in that same situation.

Is it dumb.. Yup.. but there making bank.

Lets say you own a company and sell Mr Pibb.

You've done that for a few years. You then get notified by the government that you cannot sell Mr Pibb because its illegal. You have 10 day to stop selling Mr Pibb, this is your only warning.

Would you..

1) Throw out your stockpile of Mr Pibb?

2) Have a Mr Pibb Party where you give it away to whoever wants it?

3) Have a Mr Pibb Mass Sale, offloading and cashing in on all the Mr Pibb you have within the 10 day timespan so that you can comply?

I guarantee it'll be #2 or #3.

They were given 10 days, of COURSE they will cash in. They want to bring people TO Somer Blink, so have a mass sale, get as much people to commit isk to Somer, get a bunch of GTC, then watch as the people lose all there isk playing Somer Blink.


It ain't idiotic, its what we all would do in that same situation.

Is it dumb.. Yup.. but there making bank.

Somer's been in operation for years.

Isn't is funny that once CCP give them some shiny ships all of a sudden everyone 'realises' that what they have been doing is RMT and 'breaking the rules'.

I'm sure CCP are really happy that you have figured out a player run organisation that's been doing the same thing for years is actually breaking the rules.

you could care less, but you don't, because you're emotionally invested in shilling for an RMT corporation for some reason