B. Selling Items and Objects

You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.

Somer is breaking the rules, while they were thought of as a community site that is one thing, they have now shown they are a business and must GO!!!

Yeah? Guess what? CCP made the rules. CCP gets to decide to whom they apply. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the army of forum trolls who somehow think they got a seat on the CCP board of directors.

CCP could be pulling a T20 scandal times 1000 and you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it. Don't like it? Biomass.

Yeah? Guess what? CCP made the rules. CCP gets to decide to whom they apply. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the army of forum trolls who somehow think they got a seat on the CCP board of directors.

CCP could be pulling a T20 scandal times 1000 and you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it. Don't like it? Biomass.

(2) Termination of EULA

CCP may terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if: (i) you fail to pay the fees when due; (ii) CCP is unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide; (iii) you or anyone using any of your Accounts materially breaches the EULA, makes any unauthorized use of the System or Software, or infringes the rights of CCP or any third party; or (iv) CCP becomes aware of game play, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate, offensive, or in violation of the Rules of Conduct. Such termination shall be effective upon notice transmitted via electronic mail, or any other means reasonably calculated to reach you.

CCP reserves the right to terminate any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the closed Account. Termination by CCP under this section shall be without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights or remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. You will not be entitled to receive a refund of fees for a termination pursuant to this section.

Yeah? Guess what? CCP made the rules. CCP gets to decide to whom they apply. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the army of forum trolls who somehow think they got a seat on the CCP board of directors.

CCP could be pulling a T20 scandal times 1000 and you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it. Don't like it? Biomass.

And of course not forgetting

Not forgetting that you cannot prove that any of Somer's activities have affected PLEX prices?

Not forgetting that Amazon's PLEX screw up had more measurable, and albeit temporary, influence on PLEX in 15 minutes than Somer had in it's entire existence?

Not forgetting that you don't actually play the game because you much prefer the forum warrior environment of the forums?

Not forgetting that you're still irrelevant. What am I not forgetting, exactly? Begone, troll.

Not forgetting that you cannot prove that any of Somer's activities have affected PLEX prices?

Not forgetting that Amazon's PLEX screw up had more measurable, and albeit temporary, influence on PLEX in 15 minutes than Somer had in it's entire existence?

Not forgetting that you don't actually play the game because you much prefer the forum warrior environment of the forums?

Not forgetting that you're still irrelevant. What am I not forgetting, exactly? Begone, troll.

The "Internet Tough Guy" shtick was played out by 1997, nobody is the least bit worried by your threats of podding, and name-calling won't make this issue go away.

It's time here, and time to look at other games.

If you actually formed a bead of sweat on your forehead when someone says they're going to blow up your pixels, then you need professional help. If podding is a "threat" to you, then please take your carebear with you as you exit eve.

Name calling isn't name calling if it's pertinent. The term "troll" is justified in this case. Calling a spade, a spade.

Got a problem with that? Tough.

If you actually formed a bead of sweat on your forehead when someone says they're going to blow up your pixels, then you need professional help. If podding is a "threat" to you, then please take your carebear with you as you exit eve.

Name calling isn't name calling if it's pertinent. The term "troll" is justified in this case. Calling a spade, a spade.

Got a problem with that? Tough.

Amazons screw up has nothing to do with a business having an account within the game or that same business operating a "redacted" service.

Nor does the market price of Plex matter at all to this discussion.

As to how much I play the game, that has nothing to do with it either, but I do play the game, just not as much as I used to as there is this thing called real life.

You of course may not know it.

You support "redacted", you support businesses operating in EvE, good for you.

I do not, nor do I support direct breaches of the EULA, which apparently you do.

"Redacted" effects everyone who plays this game, buys plex, ect... It is after all a player run economy and when it is out of whack it effects everyone. It also effects anyone with a gambling problem as they turn their cask into blink credits.

"RMT" <--- what does this say?

Why is it when I type RMT it says RMT to me. But when I look at all your posts now it says, "redacted" ?

Well probably because the forum rules blatantly say you cannot mention "Redacted" so every one is covering their asses.

We do not have the luxury of exploiting a rule that CCP has had a FIRM STANCE AGAINST. We do not have blanket immunity because we are not all "favorites" who provide such great services to the community, like fueling gambling addictions and such.

They still at it? How much bonus per gtc are they at now

Yeah? Guess what? CCP made the rules. CCP gets to decide to whom they apply. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the army of forum trolls who somehow think they got a seat on the CCP board of directors.

CCP could be pulling a T20 scandal times 1000 and you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it. Don't like it? Biomass.

stuff'n'rulez

So? Guess what? The players fund CCP. The players decide to whom they give their money. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the CCP board of directors.



That's where you qualify to join my corp - I don't have to sit there and take it, because in the end of the day, it's their game and if I don't like it, they can keep it.

If they don't like it, they can get back to sell rotten shark (and tbh I'd be more tempted to invest in rotten shark rather than CCP given their recent conduct).

People in here keep quoting that CCP hasn't changed the EULA but instead changed the rules with their resellers. While that may be the case at the present time how do you know they won't change the EULA after November 7th once their resellers have time to adjust etc. Seems silly to update a EULA when you still have activity going on that is legal until the 7th. Secondly to my knowledge this letter sent to resellers hasn't been made public so everyone is operating under the words of something said at the very least via second hand.

My point is you can't use that as an argument until the dust settles and we see if the rules truly don't change.

Pretty sure.... Yup, pretty sure that EVE Online would still happily exist if everyone who ever whined about this entire SOMER thing quit all their accounts right now. So please go ahead and quit, with this amount of whining I'm sure the community will be better for it.

Neat how this is the same group of people that CCP deemed worthy enough to hand out (before community protest) unique ships worth crazy amounts of in-game currency because people are dumb enough to pay for a nerfed ship worth 1 trit with a paint job.