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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
13
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:28:00 -
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CCP got scammed. Everyone does some time or another.
And I'll throw in a "**** SOMER" too. I never bought **** from them, and never will at this rate. Even if they go completely legitimate and offer an apology, I still wouldn't buy from them. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
422
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:33:00 -
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1. Selling Mr. Pibb was always forbidden. 2. The "stockpiles" of Mr. Pibb are in fact owned by CCP, and are expressly forbidden from being sold in this manner. 3. "Flaunting" the fact they are doing something forbidden is not only bad form, it makes CCP look like chumps, or collaborators.
flaunt fl+ö-Ént/verb gerund or present participle: flaunting
1.display (something) ostentatiously, especially in order to provoke envy or admiration or to show defiance. "newly rich consumers eager to flaunt their prosperity" synonyms:show off, display ostentatiously, draw attention to, make a (great) show of, put on show, put on display, parade, exhibit; Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

MetaMorpheus Jones
Emerald Inc.
89
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:38:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Somer making a mint while shitting on the community.
Odd how none of that **** seems to have fallen on me. Or any of the people I fly with. Or anyone I know in the Eve community. Maybe it's because I don't spend my time looking for ways to be offended, to be put-upon, to be treated "unfairly". Maybe it's because I see Somer the same way I see Vegas: If your dumb enough to drop your coin in the slot, I have no sympathy for you.
Lucas Kell wrote: And the complaint ish that the 10 days look suspect. The 10 days was given to give time to adhere to the rules. If Somer had done nothing for the 10 days, that would be fine. But it's that they clearly could abide by the rules now, but instead they've chosen to RMT like crazy before they run out of time. That's what we don't like. All the other sites did the right thing by packing it in as soon as they could.
Thank you for proving my point. As I said, it s not enough that the problem has been addressed and a fix put in place. Now, you must complain that the offending site isn't doing it fast enough. They were given 10 days, and because they are using the 10 days they were given, you once again have to complain and whine and point fingers and say how unfair life is . . .
Lucas Kell wrote:Seriously though, if you're not a Somer shill, why troll so hard? Why not just **** off if you've got nothing constructive to add?
Just as you see SomerBLINK and this whole RMT mess as a pox on the game, so I see you as such. My constructive addition is no different than yours. It is directed at what I see as a serious problem with the Eve gaming community: a loud, obnoxious, and short-sighted legion of forum warriors that think they speak for the playerbase; a community that has raised butthurt to nobel prize-winning levels.
Quote:Oh yeah, because of poor precious Somer needs protecting from us, the evil community that hates RMT.
I don't like RMT, but the fact is that RMT is and has been a part of the MMORPG world for as long as MMORPGs have existed. I propose that it is not RMT you hate, it's CCP. It's the notion that they gave someone some advantage that they didn't give you, and you just can't get over it.
That monocle looks ridiculous.-á |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
2
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:43:00 -
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I think Somer Blink is totally in the wrong by continuing to sell after being informed they need to take it down. They are within their legal rights to do so, but it's reprehensible to continue to do so, and I like that the community is responding to that in the way they should. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2311
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:44:00 -
[185] - Quote
MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:I don't like RMT, but the fact is that RMT is and has been a part of the MMORPG world for as long as MMORPGs have existed. I propose that it is not RMT you hate, it's CCP. It's the notion that they gave someone some advantage that they didn't give you, and you just can't get over it.
Genocide has been a part of humanity for a while. Just sayin'. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
14
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:48:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Lets say you own a company and sell Mr Pibb.
You've done that for a few years. You then get notified by the government that you cannot sell Mr Pibb because its illegal. You have 10 day to stop selling Mr Pibb, this is your only warning.
Would you..
1) Throw out your stockpile of Mr Pibb?
2) Have a Mr Pibb Party where you give it away to whoever wants it?
3) Have a Mr Pibb Mass Sale, offloading and cashing in on all the Mr Pibb you have within the 10 day timespan so that you can comply?
I guarantee it'll be #2 or #3.
They were given 10 days, of COURSE they will cash in. They want to bring people TO Somer Blink, so have a mass sale, get as much people to commit isk to Somer, get a bunch of GTC, then watch as the people lose all there isk playing Somer Blink.
It ain't idiotic, its what we all would do in that same situation.
Is it dumb.. Yup.. but there making bank. Doesn't mean we can't try and rake their name through the mud for it. Generate as much hate for Somer as possible. Turn people against the company.
This Somer stuff in no way impacts me, but I can still have some fun ruining business for them. |

TharOkha
0asis Group
637
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:48:00 -
[187] - Quote
What is so bad about RMT? GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
232
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:50:00 -
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MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: Somer making a mint while shitting on the community. Odd how none of that **** seems to have fallen on me. Or any of the people I fly with. Or anyone I know in the Eve community. Maybe it's because I don't spend my time looking for ways to be offended, to be put-upon, to be treated "unfairly". Maybe it's because I see Somer the same way I see Vegas: If your dumb enough to drop your coin in the slot, I have no sympathy for you. Lucas Kell wrote: And the complaint ish that the 10 days look suspect. The 10 days was given to give time to adhere to the rules. If Somer had done nothing for the 10 days, that would be fine. But it's that they clearly could abide by the rules now, but instead they've chosen to RMT like crazy before they run out of time. That's what we don't like. All the other sites did the right thing by packing it in as soon as they could. Thank you for proving my point. As I said, it s not enough that the problem has been addressed and a fix put in place. Now, you must complain that the offending site isn't doing it fast enough. They were given 10 days, and because they are using the 10 days they were given, you once again have to complain and whine and point fingers and say how unfair life is . . . Lucas Kell wrote:Seriously though, if you're not a Somer shill, why troll so hard? Why not just **** off if you've got nothing constructive to add? Just as you see SomerBLINK and this whole RMT mess as a pox on the game, so I see you as such. My constructive addition is no different than yours. It is directed at what I see as a serious problem with the Eve gaming community: a loud, obnoxious, and short-sighted legion of forum warriors that think they speak for the playerbase; a community that has raised butthurt to nobel prize-winning levels. Quote:Oh yeah, because of poor precious Somer needs protecting from us, the evil community that hates RMT. I don't like RMT, but the fact is that RMT is and has been a part of the MMORPG world for as long as MMORPGs have existed. I propose that it is not RMT you hate, it's CCP. It's the notion that they gave someone some advantage that they didn't give you, and you just can't get over it.
TL;DR IM SO HIPSTER #FUCKTHEMAINSTREAM |

Draydin Warsong
State Protectorate Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:55:00 -
[189] - Quote
TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT?
This^^^
You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
232
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:56:00 -
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Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. But you cant sell your ISK and get money and thats what SOMER is doing (and making people upset). |

Viddyi Dukima
Ship Spinning Inc.
31
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:56:00 -
[191] - Quote
TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/real-money-trading-is-bad-mkay/ Ship Spining Inc. [SLOTS] - http://shipspinning.com
Slot machine gambling for ISK! Fair high payouts and transparency, all with no RMT or other shady business! More details in forum thread here:-áhttp://bit.ly/1dxVY8a |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
428
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:02:00 -
[192] - Quote
Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does.
I guess you missed this part:
EULA wrote:Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Prince Kobol
1089
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:08:00 -
[193] - Quote
ElQuirko wrote:MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:I don't like RMT, but the fact is that RMT is and has been a part of the MMORPG world for as long as MMORPGs have existed. I propose that it is not RMT you hate, it's CCP. It's the notion that they gave someone some advantage that they didn't give you, and you just can't get over it. Genocide has been a part of humanity for a while. Just sayin'.
Yes.. lets compare Genocide to a website making a few bucks from people playing internet spaceships..
Hmm.. don't over dramatise to much please |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
237
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:09:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:ElQuirko wrote:MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:I don't like RMT, but the fact is that RMT is and has been a part of the MMORPG world for as long as MMORPGs have existed. I propose that it is not RMT you hate, it's CCP. It's the notion that they gave someone some advantage that they didn't give you, and you just can't get over it. Genocide has been a part of humanity for a while. Just sayin'. Yes.. lets compare Genocide to a website a few bucks from people playing internet spaceships.. Hmm.. don't over dramatise to much please
I think what he meant to said is that just because its a tradition doesnt mean its good. |

Draydin Warsong
State Protectorate Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:09:00 -
[195] - Quote
Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. But you cant sell your ISK and get $$$Gé¼Gé¼Gé¼ and thats what SOMER is doing (and making people upset).
And? I dont play Eve to make money...I play to have a good time. Why exactly should I care how much someone else in Eve makes outside the game? Besides it would hardly be worth it for the amount of $ they got/get anyways. |

Irishnox
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:10:00 -
[196] - Quote
EULA wrote: Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.
This part of the EULA is the most disturbing once you consider what Somer did. |

Evei Shard
230
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:10:00 -
[197] - Quote
While I haven't involved myself with Somer at all, I find it amusing how anyone in this thread who doesn't equate this issue with raping young girls is automatically labeled a "shill" for Somer. Profit favors the prepared |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
118
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:11:00 -
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SOMER can't be bad, CCP themselves said SOMER are awesome and the goodguys Baddest poster ever |

Prince Kobol
1089
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:11:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:ElQuirko wrote:MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:I don't like RMT, but the fact is that RMT is and has been a part of the MMORPG world for as long as MMORPGs have existed. I propose that it is not RMT you hate, it's CCP. It's the notion that they gave someone some advantage that they didn't give you, and you just can't get over it. Genocide has been a part of humanity for a while. Just sayin'. Yes.. lets compare Genocide to a website a few bucks from people playing internet spaceships.. Hmm.. don't over dramatise to much please I think what he meant to said is that just because its a tradition doesnt mean its good.
Then just say that instead of trying to sound clever..
Maybe then people will take his post a little more seriously instead of going.. "just another dumb anti-somer poster" |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
237
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:16:00 -
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Draydin Warsong wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. But you cant sell your ISK and get $$$Gé¼Gé¼Gé¼ and thats what SOMER is doing (and making people upset). And? I dont play Eve to make money...I play to have a good time. Why exactly should I care how much someone else in Eve makes outside the game? Besides it would hardly be worth it for the amount of $ they got/get anyways.
So you call over $250k hardly worth it? The issue is that while it is 100% L3G1T for them to do it other people using the same mechanic get threatened and banned. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
7
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:19:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. But you cant sell your ISK and get $$$Gé¼Gé¼Gé¼ and thats what SOMER is doing (and making people upset). And? I dont play Eve to make money...I play to have a good time. Why exactly should I care how much someone else in Eve makes outside the game? Besides it would hardly be worth it for the amount of $ they got/get anyways. So you call over $250k hardly worth it? The issue is that while it is 100% L3G1T for them to do it other people using the same mechanic get threatened and banned.
Chump change, my friend. All EVE players are billionaires. |

Viddyi Dukima
Ship Spinning Inc.
34
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:20:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:The issue is that while it is 100% L3G1T for them to do it other people using the same mechanic get threatened and banned. It's because, unlike other gambling sites or RMT incentives, SOMERBlink are shining pillars to the community and super duper CCP endorsed. They have the Ishukone Watch Scorpions to prove it, yo! Ship Spining Inc. [SLOTS] - http://shipspinning.com
Slot machine gambling for ISK! Fair high payouts and transparency, all with no RMT or other shady business! More details in forum thread here:-áhttp://bit.ly/1dxVY8a |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
562
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:20:00 -
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Draydin Warsong wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. But you cant sell your ISK and get $$$Gé¼Gé¼Gé¼ and thats what SOMER is doing (and making people upset). And? I dont play Eve to make money...I play to have a good time. Why exactly should I care how much someone else in Eve makes outside the game? Besides it would hardly be worth it for the amount of $ they got/get anyways.
Estimates put SOMER real life income at between $4700 and $7500 a month. Since a guy will kill you on the street for whatever is in your wallet, I'd say its worth it. Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |

Viddyi Dukima
Ship Spinning Inc.
34
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:24:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Estimates put SOMER real life income at between $4700 and $7500 a month. Since a guy will kill you on the street for whatever is in your wallet, I'd say its worth it. That's between 2.8 trillion and 4.5 trillion ISK per month at current PLEX, if you're keeping track. Or, you know, a brand new car every 3-4 months. Ship Spining Inc. [SLOTS] - http://shipspinning.com
Slot machine gambling for ISK! Fair high payouts and transparency, all with no RMT or other shady business! More details in forum thread here:-áhttp://bit.ly/1dxVY8a |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
237
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:25:00 -
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Viddyi Dukima wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Estimates put SOMER real life income at between $4700 and $7500 a month. Since a guy will kill you on the street for whatever is in your wallet, I'd say its worth it. That's between 2.8 trillion and 4.5 trillion ISK per month at current PLEX, if you're keeping track. Or, you know, a brand new car every 3-4 months. HOLLA HOLLA GET DOLLA |

Prince Kobol
1089
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:28:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? This^^^ You can already RMT by buying directly from CCP. This is the reason I find it impossible to give any less of a crap what somer does. But you cant sell your ISK and get $$$Gé¼Gé¼Gé¼ and thats what SOMER is doing (and making people upset). And? I dont play Eve to make money...I play to have a good time. Why exactly should I care how much someone else in Eve makes outside the game? Besides it would hardly be worth it for the amount of $ they got/get anyways. So you call over $250k hardly worth it? The issue is that while it is 100% L3G1T for them to do it other people using the same mechanic get threatened and banned.
$250k.. that's weird as a few days ago it was a $135k over 2 1/2 year period..
Wow that has gone up..
So after a bit of maths that is about -ú550 per week before tax.
Not what I would call breaking the bank.
Now even if it was double that, say -ú1000 per week before any taxes, service costs etc that still isn't what I would call an insane amount of money.. definitely not an amount to be compared to say genocide  |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
429
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:31:00 -
[207] - Quote
This gave me quite the chuckle.
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
237
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:31:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
$250k.. that's weird as a few days ago it was a $135k over 2 1/2 year period..
Wow that has gone up..
Yes but they had until recently two deals (shattered crystal + markee dragon) at the same time and the $135k is just the figure for the shattered crystal part. |

Prince Kobol
1089
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:33:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
$250k.. that's weird as a few days ago it was a $135k over 2 1/2 year period..
Wow that has gone up..
Yes but they had until recently two deals (shattered crystal + markee dragon) at the same time and the $135k is just the figure for the shattered crystal part.
So you just made up the figure then of $250k? |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
237
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:34:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
$250k.. that's weird as a few days ago it was a $135k over 2 1/2 year period..
Wow that has gone up..
Yes but they had until recently two deals (shattered crystal + markee dragon) at the same time and the $135k is just the figure for the shattered crystal part. So you just made up the figure then of $250k? Its a conservative estimate as Markee Dragon was giving them better margins. |
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