Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?

CCP has set a strict deadline. 10 days and then all incentives and rewards in return for the use of affiliate links are to be gone. That's it. Until then anyone is free to do whatever they like. Taking advantage of the time you have left is not rocket science, any reasonably smart person would do this. See the Amazon mess up, people took massive advantage of that because they knew it could end at any minute.

Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?

CCP has set a strict deadline. 10 days and then all incentives and rewards in return for the use of affiliate links are to be gone. That's it. Until then anyone is free to do whatever they like. Taking advantage of the time you have left is not rocket science, any reasonably smart person would do this. See the Amazon mess up, people took massive advantage of that because they knew it could end at any minute.

Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?

CCP has set a strict deadline. 10 days and then all incentives and rewards in return for the use of affiliate links are to be gone. That's it. Until then anyone is free to do whatever they like. Taking advantage of the time you have left is not rocket science, any reasonably smart person would do this. See the Amazon mess up, people took massive advantage of that because they knew it could end at any minute.

The 10 days is not given so they can make as much as they can. It's given so that they have time to make the technical changes to stop.
They are simply showing they have the ability to stop at any time, but want to push sales.

And I'll stop complaining when Somer are either shut down or they start looking out for the best interests of the community and not lining their pockets.

Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?

CCP has set a strict deadline. 10 days and then all incentives and rewards in return for the use of affiliate links are to be gone. That's it. Until then anyone is free to do whatever they like. Taking advantage of the time you have left is not rocket science, any reasonably smart person would do this. See the Amazon mess up, people took massive advantage of that because they knew it could end at any minute.

Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?

Somer has 300T isk to burn through. 1 trillion is a thousand billions. So, giving out 1b per $1.75 of GTC, profits would be 300,000 x 1.75 = $525,000. thats over half a million USD if Somer can RMT all his isk at that absurdly tempting conversion rate. a lot of people are taking advantage of these ridiculous isk firesale so they stand to make a ridiculous amount of profit. the first $135k (conservative estimate) clearly wasn't enough. and at the same time, Andrev Nox is playing the starving server admin card and blaming the playerbase for their woes.

No. I will not stop complaining.

I don't know who is in charge of public relations at CCP Games, but whoever it is needs to come out right now and disassociate that company from SOMER immediately and publicly. There also needs to be some kind of explanation to the playerbase as WTF has been going on.

Yeah because god forbid someone has a good idea and makes more money than the average Joe . Whether or not they need the money for server upkeep, I think SOMER had a good thing going and in a troubled economy like today that's something I like to encourage.

Let me spell it out for you; some random dude or dudette found a loophole in the game's rules and stands to make over half a million dollars from it. That's genius. That's real money. You people are acting like this is somehow hurting your real life. Are you being fired from your job because of SOMER? Are you forced to embrace SOMER and buy weekly PLEXes to keep your car running? Or did SOMER sell you a ridiculously high mortgage which you are bending over backwards to pay? Is SOMER spying on all your internet activity and phone calls and selling the information to make the money they are earning? Did SOMER break into your house and steal your first borne child?

Nope, SOMER hasn't done any of that. What this is and has been from the start is one big collective "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" because people can't STAND the idea of someone out-smarting them financially. First it was jealousy because they make tons of ISK. Then it was jealousy because they make tons of real money.

Show me one person who's real life was negatively affected by SOMER because they made some money? Are you going to protest the local grocery store because they are making money?

I await the day that an explanation is released by CCP, on this matter.
I really am genuinely frustrated... what can i/we do though? Smashing a structure in Jita is not going to help, nor is cutting our nose off to spike our face (unsubbing).

Let me spell it out for you; some random dude or dudette found a loophole in the game's rules and stands to make over half a million dollars from it. That's genius. That's real money. You people are acting like this is somehow hurting your real life. Are you being fired from your job because of SOMER? Are you forced to embrace SOMER and buy weekly PLEXes to keep your car running? Or did SOMER sell you a ridiculously high mortgage which you are bending over backwards to pay? Is SOMER spying on all your internet activity and phone calls and selling the information to make the money they are earning? Did SOMER break into your house and steal your first borne child?

Nope, SOMER hasn't done any of that. What this is and has been from the start is one big collective "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" because people can't STAND the idea of someone out-smarting them financially. First it was jealousy because they make tons of ISK. Then it was jealousy because they make tons of real money.

Show me one person who's real life was negatively affected by SOMER because they made some money? Are you going to protest the local grocery store because they are making money?

Somer has 300T isk to burn through. 1 trillion is a thousand billions. So, giving out 1b per $1.75 of GTC, profits would be 300,000 x 1.75 = $525,000. thats over half a million USD if Somer can RMT all his isk at that absurdly tempting conversion rate. a lot of people are taking advantage of these ridiculous isk firesale so they stand to make a ridiculous amount of profit. the first $135k (conservative estimate) clearly wasn't enough. and at the same time, Andrev Nox is playing the starving server admin card and blaming the playerbase for their woes. get ready for ads on blink followed by accepting paypal donations. these scumbags truly have no shame.

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So how about we don't try the boo hoo about sever cost as they have already made over $135,000 from this community.

In the nosey gamer article it was stated somer gets 8% kick back not 5% so its attually $2.80 a GTC or $840,000 if they can get rid of it all.

So what you are basically saying is that you are fine with a group making real money by exploiting the rules of the game and performing RMT? Good for you.
However luckily for those of us that actually like EVE, RMT is against the rules. Finding a loophole then exploiting it is not a good thing. Furthering that by accelerating the use of that loophole when told to stop is even worse.
I really don't give a **** if you think they are smart for making money, it's against the rules and they should be punished. They are a business running a game account to exploit the real players for cash.

And nobody here except you is saying anything about real life problems, we are stating that it's bad for THE GAME. You know? EVE Online? It's an MMORPG that many of us actually like and would like to see continue fairly?

Moron... Go back to the Somer chatroom and whine there.

Yeah, that's pretty overkill. Their site is hardly complex.
I have development servers put together from scraps that could easily run their site to be honest.

Ah yes, but it wasn't actually against any rules until CCP changed those same rules. If you want to believe the skewed rationalizations posted around the forums then feel free to do so. But the fact is that is that up until a few days ago, what SOMER was doing was perfectly legal within the EULA and the reseller agreement. And you can't punish someone for doing something that is legal. Simple as that.

you're the kind of dude who would have testified at Nuremberg that what he did was ok because he was just following orders.

Godwin's law blah blah

Ah yes, but it wasn't actually against any rules until CCP changed those same rules. If you want to believe the skewed rationalizations posted around the forums then feel free to do so. But the fact is that is that up until a few days ago, what SOMER was doing was perfectly legal within the EULA and the reseller agreement. And you can't punish someone for doing something that is legal. Simple as that.

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Ah yes, but it wasn't actually against any rules until CCP changed those same rules. If you want to believe the skewed rationalizations posted around the forums then feel free to do so. But the fact is that is that up until a few days ago, what SOMER was doing was perfectly legal within the EULA and the reseller agreement. And you can't punish someone for doing something that is legal. Simple as that.

Yeah because god forbid someone has a good idea and makes more money than the average Joe . Whether or not they need the money for server upkeep, I think SOMER had a good thing going and in a troubled economy like today that's something I like to encourage.

That's an idiotic comparison...

You really are a shill, aren't you?

What's the next line you guys are going to spew? Here's a good one! "Andrew and/or Somerset can't get on the Obamacare website so they need this extra income to pay for those awful out-of-pocket healthcare expenses." There you go -- run with it!