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Jorden Ishonen Kinetic Technologies 141	Posted - 2013.11.08 00:15:00 - [571] - Quote They did. Though, instead of getting rid of the bonus credit banner, it says "GTC Bonus Inactive (at CCP's Request)" My guess is that they're hoping the heat will die down so they can quietly start RMTing back up again.
Praxston Buckaneers 5	Posted - 2013.11.08 02:05:00 - [572] - Quote You know what SOMER needs right now? A better marketing campaign and PR representative. SOMER, I would like to apply for this position. I even have a great idea that I will give for free: Buy out like 100 titans and respective pilots (I know you got the isk and don't have any legal reason to keep it, so its a drop in the bucket). Go to a system close to Jita (like Aurohunen or Jan) and light them all up. It will be a burn titan event. It will be recorded in history as "The SOMER burn Titan event"... for years, people will be like, man, I keep hearing about SOMER, what is that? It would be glorious. Then, biomass the pilots. It would be great for the eve economy and will wipe out allot of negative standings between the player base and your corp. Hell, I'll buy a couple GTCs for that...
TigerXtrm Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 263	Posted - 2013.11.08 02:12:00 - [573] - Quote Interesting how they are still tracking purchases for 'future promotions'. Kind of like saying "Keep buying your stuff through us and maybe we'll find a way to give you stuff in the future." Gotta give Somer points for creativity when it comes to walking the fine line of the rules.
MyEveLotto myEVElotto.com 92	Posted - 2013.11.08 15:19:00 - [574] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: Interesting how they are still tracking purchases for 'future promotions'. Kind of like saying "Keep buying your stuff through us and maybe we'll find a way to give you stuff in the future." Gotta give Somer points for creativity when it comes to walking the fine line of the rules. You know, the cease and desist only says they can't provide ISK/in-game item rewards for purchasing GTCs. It doesn't say that they can't provide out-of-game rewards for purchasing GTCs. So all they have to do is create a new Blink or Bonk and only allow people who have purchased GTCs in the last month to participate in the chance to win some massive prize. Then, you're not giving people ISK for GTCs, you're just giving them access to an exclusive part of the website as "thanks". There you go, SOMER. That's your new method for [redacted]. How soon can we expect to see it implemented? Or you can implement my other suggestion: http://myevelotto.com/blink Just trying to help a fellow lottery host.
M1k3y Koontz Thorn Project Surely You're Joking 393	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:13:00 - [575] - Quote How very Wall Street of Somer. Now **** them, there's a difference between running an honest business/capitalism and whatever the hell you want to call this. CCP, ban them and zero their wallet! Nobody figured it was RMT until recently, you can honestly claim ignorance, but allowing them to cash out as much as they can like this makes you look worse, you'll lose more face by letting this continue than shutting down a site you once supported.
RomeStar Empire Investments Logistics 336	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:47:00 - [576] - Quote Best thing to do is report them to their local tax authority inorder to determine if they paid taxes on that income as any real RMT would know you better pay taxe
Lucas Kell JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance 1667	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:58:00 - [577] - Quote MyEveLotto wrote: TigerXtrm wrote: Interesting how they are still tracking purchases for 'future promotions'. Kind of like saying "Keep buying your stuff through us and maybe we'll find a way to give you stuff in the future." Gotta give Somer points for creativity when it comes to walking the fine line of the rules. You know, the cease and desist only says they can't provide ISK/in-game item rewards for purchasing GTCs. It doesn't say that they can't provide out-of-game rewards for purchasing GTCs. So all they have to do is create a new Blink or Bonk and only allow people who have purchased GTCs in the last month to participate in the chance to win some massive prize. Then, you're not giving people ISK for GTCs, you're just giving them access to an exclusive part of the website as "thanks". There you go, SOMER. That's your new method for [redacted]. How soon can we expect to see it implemented? Or you can implement my other suggestion: http://myevelotto.com/blink Just trying to help a fellow lottery host. The reward for that special part of the game would have to be an out of game reward. If you had a GTC exclusive area, which allowed you to then goi on to win special isk and in-game items, it would clearly be a way around the ruling and therefore bannable. Remember, this is not an automated system that you have to trick, and it's not a law where you can find legal loopholes. CCP have the full rights to shut you down for any reason, or even no reason if they want. All in game items are their property, and Somer can't claim against them if CCP chose to ban their accounts. So doing something that can obviously be seen as a way of sidestepping the rules would not end well.
MyEveLotto myEVElotto.com 92	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:05:00 - [578] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: So doing something that can obviously be seen as a way of sidestepping the rules would not end well. Don't know about that. The first time they did something that can obviously be seen as a way of sidestepping the rules, CCP gave them 10 days to cash out as much as they could...
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 3192	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:09:00 - [579] - Quote A thread full of gamblers complaining that the people they give their ISK to are bad and need to be banned. Has it occurred to any of you that if you could get your habit under control, you would have no reason to complain about Somer since they would have folded a long time ago? Blaming others for your own failing is not a new strategy and entirely expected. But until you come to terms with your addiction, you will be the fools and sites like Somer will be the people taking advantage of you. Mr Epeen
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1510	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:17:00 - [580] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: A thread full of gamblers complaining that the people they give their ISK to are bad and need to be banned. Has it occurred to any of you that if you could get your habit under control, you would have no reason to complain about Somer since they would have folded a long time ago? Blaming others for your own failing is not a new strategy and entirely expected. But until you come to terms with your addiction, you will be the fools and sites like Somer will be the people taking advantage of you. Mr Epeen I dislike the 'favouritism' shown to Somer Blink (free ships etc) and I have never gambled in my life, in game or out of game. I have no addiction to come to terms with, unless the skill queue counts as an addiction

Lucas Kell JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance 1668	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:20:00 - [581] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: A thread full of gamblers complaining that the people they give their ISK to are bad and need to be banned. Has it occurred to any of you that if you could get your habit under control, you would have no reason to complain about Somer since they would have folded a long time ago? Blaming others for your own failing is not a new strategy and entirely expected. But until you come to terms with your addiction, you will be the fools and sites like Somer will be the people taking advantage of you. Mr Epeen I'm not a gambler. MyEveLotto wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: So doing something that can obviously be seen as a way of sidestepping the rules would not end well. Don't know about that. The first time they did something that can obviously be seen as a way of sidestepping the rules, CCP gave them 10 days to cash out as much as they could... Sort of. CCP gave everyone 10 days grace time to get their sites in order. Somer just chose to accelerate it. While I don't agree, I can understand why CCP let that one slide, since it both made them more profit, and would have been a lot of hassle to go back on the 10 days. I imagine further deliberate breaches of the rules would result in swift action, and if it didn't it would certainly result in me posting a ticket and a forum thread every 10 minutes until an official made a statement. They would have to ban me to make me shut up, then that would be that. I actually think I want to be banned, since it would force me to actually get a bit more of my life back :p
DNSBLACK Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 501	Posted - 2013.11.10 06:28:00 - [582] - Quote Page three I f@#$ dont think so CCP sorry but time to do something or we open up stage 2 of rmting your game. I know you thought it was over but it isn't. You have an obligation to unf!@# this and speak to us.
Yummy Chocolate Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2234	Posted - 2013.11.10 09:21:00 - [583] - Quote Reporting in for my extra dose of space aids and/or space herpes.
Mars Theran Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness 1659	Posted - 2013.11.10 10:04:00 - [584] - Quote Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote: TigerXtrm wrote: Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining? No. I will not stop complaining. I don't know who is in charge of public relations at CCP Games, but whoever it is needs to come out right now and disassociate that company from SOMER immediately and publicly. There also needs to be some kind of explanation to the playerbase as WTF has been going on. Somer was doing this ages ago. I honestly didn't see it as an issue as they are providing a bonus for buying a GTC that goes right back into the pot. Most people lose far more on blink than they walk away with, except for a few rare individuals. To be honest, you'd get 100 million credit for the purchase of 2 GTCs through Markee Dragon or whichever, and add it to the ~1 Billion you got for the GTCs buying putting the Billion back into blink, or just play it out until there's none left. You can't cash out ISK in Blink last I checked; you have to play it and win something with it or walk away empty handed. Maybe that's an issue, but CCP didn't raise an eyebrow that I am aware of back when I played Blink ~1-2 years ago and they were doing this. They were advertising them at the time, as I recall, and selling GTCs to resellers who were selling them to people playing Blink. Whatever.. personally, all I see is a change of tune over something that was once acceptable practice, but I don't know the exact details behind this anyway.
Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 University of Caille Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:37:00 - [585] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: A thread full of gamblers complaining that the people they give their ISK to are bad and need to be banned. Has it occurred to any of you that if you could get your habit under control, you would have no reason to complain about Somer since they would have folded a long time ago? Blaming others for your own failing is not a new strategy and entirely expected. But until you come to terms with your addiction, you will be the fools and sites like Somer will be the people taking advantage of you. Mr Epeen I liked your post as it probably applies to enough people, but there's also a legion of people who just see this as straight-up unfair.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 328	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:39:00 - [586] - Quote Frankly, I think Somer's blantant RMT cash out is EXACTLY what CCP deserves for being stupid enough to give SOMER a plug in the first place. CCP you got had, you got scammed, and now you look really dumb. Fighting is Magic
Ghost Phius Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:27:00 - [587] - Quote Batelle wrote: Frankly, I think Somer's blantant RMT cash out is EXACTLY what CCP deserves for being stupid enough to give SOMER a plug in the first place. CCP you got had, you got scammed, and now you look really dumb. Giving them the plug is what alerted folks to the underhanded backroom dealings that they were up too. CCP where "GREED IS GOOD" shut off the intelligence and decency warnings in the corporation profit seeking governor(A feedback device on a machine or engine that is used to provide automatic control), that was specifically installed to avoid such horrifically inept screw ups.
Alt Two Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 93	Posted - 2013.11.15 21:11:00 - [588] - Quote So, how long until Somer starts a twitch channel? That seems to be the new CCP-approved way to RMT. There's this twitch channel, where the owner does plex for subscriber raffles. CCP frequently visits his stream chat and they have never objected to the raffles, thereby implicitly approving of them. There's this forum thread, where said streamer openly admits to said plex for subscribers program. ISD frequently visits this thread removing any mention of RMT but leaving the thread open, thereby implicitly approving it. ) http://www.twitch.tv/mad_ani ) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=295038 Mad Ani wrote:** Plexes go to subscribers because I can. The cash has pretty much all been spent on this PC with 4 monitors.
Hoshi Sorano Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.15 23:44:00 - [589] - Quote Alt Two wrote: So, how long until Somer starts a twitch channel? That seems to be the new CCP-approved way to RMT. There's this twitch channel, where the owner does plex for subscriber raffles. CCP frequently visits his stream chat and they have never objected to the raffles, thereby implicitly approving of them. There's this forum thread, where said streamer openly admits to said plex for subscribers program. ISD frequently visits this thread removing any mention of RMT but leaving the thread open, thereby implicitly approving it. ) http://www.twitch.tv/mad_ani ) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=295038 Mad Ani wrote:** Plexes go to subscribers because I can. The cash has pretty much all been spent on this PC with 4 monitors. Next scandal threadnaught incoming in 3..2..1...
Daquaris The Loathsome Lions 65	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:22:00 - [590] - Quote Wow, isn't that the guy that's trying to get hired by CCP or w/e?

Deka Ekato Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 117	Posted - 2013.11.21 06:12:00 - [591] - Quote Still nothing from CCP.
Ace Boogi Republic University Minmatar Republic 221	Posted - 2013.11.21 08:20:00 - [592] - Quote Deka Ekato wrote: Still nothing from CCP. i'm actually hoping their big announcement next week is that CCP and Somer are matching all player plex donates in the drive to help the Philippines. that would do a lot to help restore their image as a service that gives back to the community. after all the isk they gave away during their cashout, followed by slowing down their celebration giveaways, i'm sure they have the isk bankroll to be able to do this. it would do a lot towards reconciliation imo.
Whim Aqayn Ministry of War Amarr Empire 75	Posted - 2013.11.21 10:24:00 - [593] - Quote Ace Boogi wrote: Deka Ekato wrote: Still nothing from CCP. i'm actually hoping their big announcement next week is that CCP and Somer are matching all player plex donates in the drive to help the Philippines. that would do a lot to help restore their image as a service that gives back to the community. after all the isk they gave away during their cashout, followed by slowing down their celebration giveaways, i'm sure they have the isk bankroll to be able to do this. it would do a lot towards reconciliation imo. Yes, because throwing money at the Philippines is magically going to unmake what they did.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5206	Posted - 2013.11.21 10:31:00 - [594] - Quote Whim Aqayn wrote: Ace Boogi wrote: Deka Ekato wrote: Still nothing from CCP. i'm actually hoping their big announcement next week is that CCP and Somer are matching all player plex donates in the drive to help the Philippines. that would do a lot to help restore their image as a service that gives back to the community. after all the isk they gave away during their cashout, followed by slowing down their celebration giveaways, i'm sure they have the isk bankroll to be able to do this. it would do a lot towards reconciliation imo. Yes, because throwing money at the Philippines is magically going to unmake what they did. people have short memories also honest contributors to the community There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013

ISD Tyrozan ISD Community Communications Liaisons 184	Posted - 2013.11.21 16:51:00 - [595] - Quote Off-topic post removed. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan \| @ISD_CCL

Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 1069	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:50:00 - [596] - Quote Ace Boogi wrote: Deka Ekato wrote: Still nothing from CCP. i'm actually hoping their big announcement next week is that CCP and Somer are matching all player plex donates in the drive to help the Philippines. that would do a lot to help restore their image as a service that gives back to the community. How do you figure THAT out sportsfan? High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild
Deka Ekato Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 118	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:17:00 - [597] - Quote Bump.
Eram Fidard Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 469	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:36:00 - [598] - Quote So...stickies have been removed, deadline has passed, CCP-sanctioned RMT "is no more". When do we get an official statement from CCP? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Tollen Gallen Xionworld 3307	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:46:00 - [599] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: So...stickies have been removed, deadline has passed, CCP-sanctioned RMT "is no more". When do we get an official statement from CCP? It is still in the 1st page........... I like Cheese. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 550	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:46:00 - [600] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: So...stickies have been removed, deadline has passed, CCP-sanctioned RMT "is no more". When do we get an official statement from CCP? Official statement from CCP on what? They already made all the official statements I can see they need to do.



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