So seeing as Somer have a nice way of converting ISK to RMT throught GTC what precludes them to sell Assets for RMT, and just using Somer to distribute said assets.

So no one has thought of the fact that PLEX are soaring up in price right now, maybe CCP and Blink are working together to introduce more PLEX into the economy to get the price down? Maybe Blink isn't actually getting the cut on sales and everything goes straight to CCP?

Of course, such a logical explanation must be heresy and the conspiracy theorists are obviously right.

Once again - I am not saying SOMER should be punished purely for abusing the grace period, but their actions speak a great deal about who they are - about their ethics and business practices. They've basically thrown pie in CCP's face, and the only saving grace is that it is so obvious that I am sure CCP sees it. The only thing that comes next is them having the courage to shut the whole thing down, which they can do, based on multiple EULA violations.

As for PLEX, CCP has more than enough PLEX at their disposal to keep the price down, and they often inject PLEX to do so. They stated at fanfest that they put PLEX that have been confiscated from RMT'ers on the market at times (sort of acting as a "federal reserve bank") and they also tend to put plex on sale when the price increases. In fact, SOMER represents a potential threat to the economy when they sell an extra billion isk with every GTC sale, as this can result in a huge flood of isk into the economy and thus increase the price of PLEX.

Every player or entity is equal when facing the EULA. But some entities are more equal than others.

You will see, CCP will let blink continue, otherwise they wouldn't have waited for all this noise from their playerbase to "act".

The dramatic drop in PLEX prices tells me that the yelling on the forums is not a majority view. Looks like the very opposite of a somer boycott is underway.

If anything, Somer has increased the price of plex. How many plex did Somer employees give away at Vegas? The 100 plex for the fiction contest came through Somer. Who knows how many more plex Somer has bought (increasing demand and the price for everyone else) only to shove them into the Blink corporate vault for later use.

The dramatic drop in PLEX prices tells me that the yelling on the forums is not a majority view. Looks like the very opposite of a somer boycott is underway.

SOMER lost a lot of community goodwill in pulling the desperate cash-out stunt.The Scorp debacle could have been forgiven. The CCP speshul blinks would have eventually died out. This, however, will be something people remember for a long time.

As for "SOMER sponsors game events", I'll pose a hypothetical: Would Somer still sponsor an event, on the condition that the Somer name never appear? If mention of your company is a prerequisite to achieving sponsorship, you are no longer altruistically giving. At that point, you are advertising.


For our more tech-savvy code players, now would be a perfect time to emulate Somer in all but name. You could even make yourself look better, by offering "Bonus credits" to charity/in-game events. Hell, I'd play your gambling, if I knew X% went to generating more content. "Buy a GTC, we will give X ISK to a random EVE event/charity. Chose NotSomer, Gambling to make EVE better."

Blink is getting bigger and bigger and the ISK ticker moves faster and faster! We just finished a celebration, and it would be time for 1.3Q. To spread out the celebrations a little more, we are moving to every 100T. So the next celebration will be at 1.4Q. This will let us make them more special.

It is a sign of the respect we have developed for some of the devs involved that the word "fire" has not come up more often in these discussions. And I personally would not call for any such thing - not just because I really do like the folks involved, but because I know from experience that these sorts of conflict of interest traps are easy to fall into. It is human nature to want to like people, to trust people, to work with others. Avoiding these things - conflicts of interest, influence peddling - requires that those in power actively pay attention to the behavior of, and their interactions with, those who might try and gain influence over t. It sucks that you have to constantly question the motives of others, but it is just the way things are.

CCP has to do something about this.

Everyone should click "like" on this dude's post. Best post ever, and I am completely serious.

Can I use this on a t-shirt at fan fest? And seriously dude, if you ever need a corp, join mine. I'm a fan.


"CCP has to do something about this."

Most of the posters here are too stupid to recognice that most of the "community" doesn't care about the entire Somergate... I'm sure that most of the Eve players never heard about Somergate.

Or how do you explain this ?
http://imgur.com/2qua0Mz

This proves that forums are irrelevant and they don't represent the community.

AND The community has spoken. THEY want RMT, gambling an Somer Greed is good.

But I really hope that you are as upset about the RMT sheme of www.themittani.com They are paying their writers in ISK who's articles drives traffic to the site which means more money for the owner of the site.

And if you Kellerkinder are ever coming out of your basements you will recognice that the rules are ONLY set in stone and rigorosly apply for the normal citicien ;-)

So, stop whining you socialist

so basically every normal player who isn't favored by someone should go **** himself ? got ya..

Most of the posters here are too stupid to recognice that most of the "community" doesn't care about the entire Somergate... I'm sure that most of the Eve players never heard about Somergate.

Or how do you explain this ?
http://imgur.com/2qua0Mz

This proves that forums are irrelevant and they don't represent the community.

AND The community has spoken. THEY want RMT, gambling an Somer Greed is good.

But I really hope that you are as upset about the RMT sheme of www.themittani.com They are paying their writers in ISK who's articles drives traffic to the site which means more money for the owner of the site.

And if you Kellerkinder are ever coming out of your basements you will recognice that the rules are ONLY set in stone and rigorosly apply for the normal citicien ;-)

So, stop whining you socialist

Well, Ads are ok'ed by CCP, so there's that.

As for Mittens paying writers in isk, to get people to his site, that is ok in my book.
EVE-KILL pays developers in isk, to make zKillboard better, so we can drive more people to our site too, should we get bitchslapped too?

That said, i agree on the whole somer being in the wrong thing, he's a good guy, but this just seems ridiculous.

And until the 7 november the SOMER RMT is ok'ed by CCP.

If Somer get "bitchslapped" then all the others "Community" sites should get it too because CCP has to be fair and shouldn't favorate anyone

I think there are a lot of people confusing this act as an act of defiance against CCP when in fact it comes across more as an act of defiance to the tin foil crowd that seems to be growing in numbers around here...

I think there are a lot of people confusing this act as an act of defiance against CCP when in fact it comes across more as an act of defiance to the tin foil crowd that seems to be growing in numbers around here...

While the rest of us just see it as a business trying to squeeze as much cash out of EvE before they are made to stop offering their 'bonus' and they lose most of the sales pie back to community sites.

"Tin foil" my ass. They're just trying to make as much money as they can before they have to stop, and people are helping them. Most people don't understand what RMT is, and probably don't care, as demonstrated by the misconception shown here in this thread the CCP itself engages in it with its own PLEX system. All of this is beside the point that RMT -- running a for-profit business out of the game -- is against the EULA and always has been. There's nothing tin foil about that.