Come again?

Also, flaming attempts look much cooler when they've been proof read...


Edit: No seriously, I have no idea why you posted that - I was pointing out the range disruption feature of tracking disrupters to the other chap...

It takes the data from all ships involved in a kill I believe, so that is about as comprehensive as you can get.

I wanted to reply to the guy you replied to, and just add the thing i wanted to say to the thing you said.

Anyway, signature is an area, signature radius is its radius, target painters increase that radius.
Tracking is angular velocity, it has a different dimension than signature. So what Gabriel Karade said makes just as much sense as comparing an apple to a truck.

Interesting, but I wish I could see a damage done statistic instead because I can shoot at something with blasters to get on the KM that doesnt mean I applied any damage.

I like this info because it accounts for cross weapon fitting (artillery abaddons etc) but how does this calculate "kills" is it the killing blow? because if so, I would tend to think this stat is a bit skewed . . . additionally, I would think the top 10 would be all you need to show, because there are fewer common weapon systems than there are common ships . . .

What CCP should check is how many hybrid boats that enter a fight are still flying after the fight ends.
I'm willing to bet it's less than half, post-patch...

I do not think I'm aware of any FC who wont primary a Hybrid ship in battle since most of them will die before they get in range.

They are now a bit more of a threat but they still lack the range needed to be useful.

I like this info because it accounts for cross weapon fitting (artillery abaddons etc) but how does this calculate "kills" is it the killing blow? because if so, I would tend to think this stat is a bit skewed . . . additionally, I would think the top 10 would be all you need to show, because there are fewer common weapon systems than there are common ships . . .

Informal quick sample poll with latest kills on BC (top damage dealer)

Proj: 19
Missile: 5
Laser: 2
Drone: 2
Blaster: 1
Rail: 0

Wow, doing this I even saw ACs on a harpy. As the top dmg dealer.

Blaster kill was of a cyno heron.

2 of the missile kills were from a Ferox, a "rail boat" by definition, rest were drakes of course.

What struck me was the number of Cynabal solo kills. I smell a new FOTM.

Cynabal was FOTM about 7-8 months ago. Its now fairly standard.

Just a small insight : A railfit Ferox will now be better than a AutoCannon Ferox and with blasters actually bite stuff unfortunate to be within range Woohoo.
That is 1 ship that I personally will consider a healthy choice for caldari pilots in the future.

Most likely the Moa might be viable too but I haven't done any comparisons on it.

That was a few nasty comments showcasing a lot of assumptions without any arguments of why my statement would be wrong - I just said a Ferox finally works better with hybrids than it does with Autocannons...
They will still be different and you can find advantage and disadvantage everywhere, but plz show me why a Ferox shouldn't be viable with rails or blasters with the current changes?

I didn't say the current changes were perfect. The ammo is still screaming for a revamp and the hybrids seems to lack a final touch, but the current changes gets us far in many ships...

ok, CCP, you still have not fixed the fact that all the ships with armor tanking bonuces cannot usethe bonus you gave them, because they cannot fit a full rack of guns, reppers, MWD, and boosters, unless you are fitting electron blaster on them (which is pathertic).
So atm hyperion and britux cannot be fitted with 2 reps and 2 boosters and a rack of ions even with maximum fitting skills, meaning they cannot possibly under any circumstance utilize their bonuces. It just is impossible. Thus the ship is not for-filling it's purpose, it is virtually unusable. That is without even looking into effectiveness of their fitting or active vs buffer tank or getting in range or anything like that . They simply cannot be fit. That is stupid. Change their bounces, or change their fitting. Maelstrom and Abbadon have enourmous amounts of fitting room, especially in powergrid, whereas gallente are restricted on powergid insanely, and it's not like we hae spare cpu either.

Secondly, remove speed penalty from active armor tank rigs. I liked flying active armour ships, but atm it is just silly. Leave penalty on trimarks, so buffertanks and amarr stay slow.

Thirdly pelase consider giving some gal ships a shield-tank. I seriously think it would massively improve the situation. Minmatar use two tanks, so can we.

ok, CCP, you still have not fixed the fact that all the ships with armor tanking bonuces cannot usethe bonus you gave them, because they cannot fit a full rack of guns, reppers, MWD, and boosters, unless you are fitting electron blaster on them (which is pathertic).
So atm hyperion and britux cannot be fitted with 2 reps and 2 boosters even with maximum fitting skills, meaning they cannot possibly under any circumstance utilize their bonuces. It just is impossible.

dont care how good you make the guns tracking if the target ship get close to a gall ship there going to get webed down, so the tracking is not so much the problem, its the range and falloff, witch is ok as well as i like being up in peoples faces, more damage would be nice or more speed to the ships as armor tank is slow , and our bass speed is to slow , like min ships have the highest and they can orbit out of webs and scrams and our falloff, we may as well fit mining lazzors to our ships and get some ore as we are getting killed. let the flaming begin.

they are not going to give you whiners the god like capabilities...