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Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
459
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:37:00 -
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Hey Lucas! Long time no see, what's with the nose-tan?
Yes, if someone would represent the playerbase of a computergame it isn't required for said representative to know basic game mechanics.
It would help though, especially if said representative goes arround calling others retards because they have a different idea on game mechanics. Call me crazy 
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Loki Asuran
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
9
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Posted - 2014.02.04 08:21:00 -
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You know what this thread needs ? More smilies in a vain attempt to appear smug that you managed to reinforce 1 poco LOL
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Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
459
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Posted - 2014.02.04 08:27:00 -
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Loki Asuran wrote:You  know  what  this  thread  needs  ? More  smilies  in  a  vain  attempt  to  appear  smug  that  you  managed  to  reinforce  1  poco  LOL   L 
You guys are making this waaay to easy for me 
Slight correction to your otherwise brilliant post, we destroyed an undestroyable poco and gave some other wardeccers the chance to shoot at blinged out nullbears in hisec for 10% of the usual fee. Not even mentioning the purple blob that romps arround instead of doing pvp, good times!
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2505
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Posted - 2014.02.04 08:46:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Yes, if someone would represent the playerbase of a computergame it isn't required for said representative to know basic game mechanics. It would help though, especially if said representative goes arround calling others retards because they have a different idea on game mechanics. Call me crazy  Someone that represents the null playerbase needs to know null mechanics, not obscure high sec wardec features. Even the CCP devs, I doubt the UI devs know how the database clusters it's data, since that's not their area of expertise.
I think you know this as well. You just were shooting for another attempt at wit, and once again failing miserably.
Danalee wrote:Slight correction to your otherwise brilliant post, we destroyed an undestroyable poco and gave some other wardeccers the chance to shoot at blinged out nullbears in hisec for 10% of the usual fee. Not even mentioning the purple blob that romps arround instead of doing pvp, good times! That's quite strange actually, since I don't remember anyone saying that pocos were "undestroyable". Of course uncontested a POCO can fall, but what you're supposed to do then is put up your own one. Note though that not only did you guys run away to a station when the goons showed up, but your leader felt the need to pretend he wasn't there to get over the embarrassment of running way. All while the lemmings were out smacktalking to neutrals in Hek too.
As for the "chance to shoot nullbears", that only works if Gevlon's original post was right, which it wasn't. Goons didn't need to ally in that war, making themselves a cheap target as they can just transfer the POCO, which they did. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
459
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Posted - 2014.02.04 09:04:00 -
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You keep going in circles friend Lucas.
We've been over this, you don't agree but sane people do. If you want to attack someone on his knowledge of game mechanics you better not be a nubcake when it comes to gamemechanics.
I also bet you don't remember 'your side' (quotes because your side doesn't even like you ) claiming pocos would never be destroyed and when they dropped the ball on that started some bullshit about how the people who destroyed it were scared... or something (lol). Again, it doesn't take a lot of smarts to see right through that little fantasy.
Same with your cringe worthy attempts at personnal attacks, they don't stick because they have no basis whatsoever. Keep it up though, I'm loving every minute of it.
Oh, and              
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2506
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Posted - 2014.02.04 12:20:00 -
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Danalee wrote:We've been over this, you don't agree but sane people do. Citation needed.
Danalee wrote:If you want to attack someone on his knowledge of game mechanics you better not be a nubcake when it comes to gamemechanics. Not knowing an obscure high sec war dec feature doesn't really make someone a "nubcake" though. I'd be willing to be mynnna know a heck of a lot more about the game mechanics than you do, yet you are here attacking. What makes you so special?
Danalee wrote:I also bet you don't remember 'your side' (quotes because your side doesn't even like you  ) claiming pocos would never be destroyed and when they dropped the ball on that started some bullshit about how the people who destroyed it were scared... or something (lol). Again, it doesn't take a lot of smarts to see right through that little fantasy. I remember my side claiming that lemmings wouldn't. I also remember them claiming that it has no effect on them. An lo and behold the only progress made was by Marmite, and only while the system was empty, and the overall effect? Zero.
Danalee wrote:Same with your cringe worthy attempts at personnal attacks, they don't stick because they have no basis whatsoever. Keep it up though, I'm loving every minute of it. It's not a personal attack, I'm simply pointing out that you are a troll, and every post I've seen you make has been a troll post. It's also a fact that you are not very good at it, and that your attemps at wit fall short. Sorry if you take it personally, maybe you should separate your personal feelings from a game.
Danalee wrote:Edit: I'll correct you some more: Goons didn't need to ally in that warThe corp joined goons, so goons got all the 50mil wardecs from said corp for free  making themselves cheap targets. Game mechanics magic and stuff. This post clearly states 50M/week. Gevlon misunderstood how POCO transfers work and advertised the ability to dec the goons for 50M/week. Good thing you were on hand to do a bit of damage control eh? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Usman Bello
United States of Winning
34
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:18:00 -
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mynnna wrote:So apparently the game auto-surrenders in a war when you join a new alliance. Entertaining, and I'm sure Gevlon will try to spin that into some sort of victory. I accept your surrender. 
mynnna wrote:"United States of Winning" did decide to go ahead and dec GSF though. Perhaps he felt cheated out of Gevlon's promised cheap 50m/week avenue to GSF as a target and decided to pony up for the real thing.  Nope, I haven't done so. This seems to be the result of the POCO transfer and the war was just transfered with it.
Lucas Kell wrote:Because the prerequisite of a CSM members is to know every detail of EVE inside and out right? Indeed but a CSM shouldn't try to circumvent game mechanics either. It is unworthy of the office he holds and only damages it unnecessarily.
Lucas Kell wrote: This post clearly states 50M/week. Gevlon misunderstood how POCO transfers work and advertised the ability to dec the goons for 50M/week. Good thing you were on hand to do a bit of damage control eh?
Worked just fine. When the ebil Gwens tried to use witchcraft to hide the pretty POCO away in fear of the Usman, he got the whole GSF.  http://unitedstatesofwinning.ytmnd.com/ |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
478
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:27:00 -
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^^ Thanks man... I allmost wanted to put on my boots and wade in that crapfest myself. You did it a lot better, with more patience and respect than I ever could bring up.
I'll drop my load anyways seeing I had it written out already 
Citation needed: no, a clue is what you need...
'obscure' high sec war dec feature : High sec wardec mechanics are hardly obscure and I'm not CSM. What makes me so special is that I'm not joining your little pitchfork-wielding bandwagon party attacking someone who swims against the stream. It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face 
lalalala Progress was made by marmite so doesn't count lalalalala: Ok boss, got it 
It's not a personal attack: That's why the forum mods removed them. I'd petition that stuff.
This post clearly states 50M/week: 50m was EXACTLY the amount it cost to wardec the corp. Once the corp joined goons THE WAR TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE GOONS and not a single extra isk was paid for it. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2622
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:28:00 -
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Lucas, if it helps you calm down any, Danalee doesn't literally believe what he posts here. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2923
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:33:00 -
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Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:So apparently the game auto-surrenders in a war when you join a new alliance. Entertaining, and I'm sure Gevlon will try to spin that into some sort of victory. In the meantime, the POCO is safely in GSF, and none of the four entities that wardecced Goon Capital so much as touched it. "United States of Winning" did decide to go ahead and dec GSF though. Perhaps he felt cheated out of Gevlon's promised cheap 50m/week avenue to GSF as a target and decided to pony up for the real thing.  Wow...apparently for a CSM you do have... limited knowledge about EVE. So the 4 entities don't have a war with the entire goonblob for the fine price of the initially invested 50 mil now? yeah... Oh well I bet it's all over now, well done!  D. 
The trivialities and nuances of highsec wardec mechanics are not something I deal with on a day to day basis, yes. If I wanted to know about them I'm sure I could ask my fellow councilmember (or is it pet? or master? I can't keep it straight in these threads) Mangala Solaris of RvB.  Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:07:00 -
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Danalee wrote:It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face  Usman Bello wrote:Indeed but a CSM shouldn't try to circumvent game mechanics either. It is unworthy of the office he holds and only damages it unnecessarily. Nothing is being circumvented. This is the correct use of the alliance mechanics. The fact that Gevlon didn't think about it doesn't mean it's automatically wrong.
Danalee wrote:50m was EXACTLY the amount it cost to wardec the corp. Once the corp joined goons THE WAR TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE GOONS and not a single extra isk was paid for it. Usman Bello wrote:Worked just fine. When the ebil Gwens tried to use witchcraft to hide the pretty POCO away in fear of the Usman, he got the whole GSF.  For 1 week. Not /Week. To continue the war it will be the usual half bil.
Danalee wrote:'obscure' high sec war dec feature : High sec wardec mechanics are hardly obscure and I'm not CSM. What makes me so special is that I'm not joining your little pitchfork-wielding bandwagon party attacking someone who swims against the stream. The obscure part isn't the actual wardec transference. The obscure part is that when the corp transferred to the other alliance, a notification stating "surrender" was sent. I don't think I've seen that written anywhere, and it certainly makes no sense, since there's been no surrender of any kind. So yes, it's obscure.
And you are still insulting mynnna over understanding of mechanics. By your reasoning that must mean you know ALL mechanics, since you are not allowed to call out someone on any mechanics unless you're an absolute expert, right? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Johan March
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:16:00 -
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I'm not sure what's funnier, the post or the comments. Still, thank you Gevlon. I haven't laughed so hard in days.
Imagine if Gevlon had access to our PAP statistics. The sheer beauty of the graphs and charts he would create would be breathtaking. |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2925
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:22:00 -
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Danalee wrote:It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face 
Didn't actually see this first time around. Nothing was circumvented, feel free to petition it if you think otherwise.  Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:29:00 -
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Johan March wrote:I'm not sure what's funnier, the post or the comments. Still, thank you Gevlon. I haven't laughed so hard in days. Imagine if Gevlon had access to our PAP statistics. The sheer beauty of the graphs and charts he would create would be breathtaking. I've just reread it with the updates he did, which makes it funnier.
Probably the best part for me though, even if this was all 100% accurate and we are the mere pets at your feet, what would change? Would I rather be the well kept pet of a rich and powerful owner or a peasant in a world full of peasants. Not exactly a tough call.
The realism is though that no single CFC alliance could hold the space CFC hold. The coalition is required, some parts for the leadership, some for the skilled players and some just for the raw numbers (and SUAS for his epic songs). We all get to have a load of fun, and compared to other alliances CTAs are nowhere close to as strict as many other alliances. If Gevlon actually thought that his blog post was going to suddenly make us start infighting he's seriously delusional. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:31:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Danalee wrote:It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face  Didn't actually see this first time around. Nothing was circumvented, feel free to petition it if you think otherwise.  Calling it now, just watch, they'll petition it, and when nothing happens they'll accuse you of using inside connections to bypass the rules. And that will be the reason they fail! Bloody cheaters! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
478
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:38:00 -
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It's STILL a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face
And it was sooo unexpected we wardecced the corp before the poco was even placed 
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Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
43
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:41:00 -
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Danalee, your trolling is bad. I mean seriously - I understand the "value" of trolling for amusement, but you are really being bad at this now and not amusing at all. You are one step from posting goblin-level shite, which is the rock bottom. |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
478
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:50:00 -
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Ow pete, how you burn me...
The fact that goons have to misuse hisec wardec mechanics to save face is the big joke here, but that's waaaaaay above your level I see. Oh well, can't all be regular guys and gals playing a game... Some have to take it to where no sane person has ever gone before I gues...
In any case, I'm not trolling and it's you who is shown for the sad little troll you are. Thanks!
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2509
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:51:00 -
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Danalee wrote:It's STILL a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face And it was sooo unexpected we wardecced the corp before the poco was even placed Perhaps you'd like to explain which mechanic you are talking about, since this doesn't really make sense. Since no game mechanics were circumvented, and everything worked out as planned, I can only conclude that you've misunderstood the situation.
And congratulations, you started a 24 hour timer half an hour early. What you should have done is placed your own POCO, and not wasted a wardec on an alt corp. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2925
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:55:00 -
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Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does.  Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
478
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:01:00 -
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Not shooting the messenger this time, allow me to reward you with a reply;
Lucas Kell wrote:Perhaps you'd like to explain which mechanic you are talking about, since this doesn't really make sense. Since no game mechanics were circumvented, and everything worked out as planned, I can only conclude that you've misunderstood the situation.
I'm actually talking about the intended mechanic of wardecs (declaring war and fighting stuff). You guys thought you'd be clever and have another corp drop the poco so it would be invincible, we saw it comming a mile away but figured it would be a good way to get more wardecs against you  Which happened. To add insult to injury, it was made obvious by different goon posts you didn't 'get it'.
Lucas Kell wrote: And congratulations, you started a 24 hour timer half an hour early. What you should have done is placed your own POCO, and not wasted a wardec on an alt corp.
We don't care for pocos, really... too much hassle for no big return. We do care for goons to go pop and leave their juicy innards for us to feast on. That and all the beautiful content that's being created here on the forums and ingame.
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Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
46
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:01:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does. 
And that's exactly why his trolling is bad. It should have some kind of intelligent twist, not a bunch of random words. |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
478
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:16:00 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:mynnna wrote:Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does.  And that's exactly why his trolling is bad. It should have some kind of intelligent twist, not a bunch of random words.
That's actually a good point, as opposed to Pete yesman's poor attempt at relevance. (Yes, I was talking about the wardecs carrying over) Touch+¬.
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2927
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:29:00 -
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Danalee wrote:I'm actually talking about the intended mechanic of wardecs (declaring war and fighting stuff). You guys thought you'd be clever and have another corp drop the poco so it would be invincible, we saw it comming a mile away but figured it would be a good way to get more wardecs against you 
Realtalk: Invincibility wasn't really an objective, if it were why would I drop it in an alliance so cheap to dec? I dropped it in another corp because I felt dropping it in a neutral corp and then transferring it over would be a better route than having to cloak 200km off in a GSF blockade runner and hope I could warp in and drop fast enough. In short, I was concerned about a ninja attempt, not even necessarily from you guys as much as from random passerbys, or about having the ship blown up before I completed the drop. All the wardecs did was make it take longer to transfer back to Goonwaffe  Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
478
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:34:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Danalee wrote:I'm actually talking about the intended mechanic of wardecs (declaring war and fighting stuff). You guys thought you'd be clever and have another corp drop the poco so it would be invincible, we saw it comming a mile away but figured it would be a good way to get more wardecs against you  Realtalk: Invincibility wasn't really an objective, if it were why would I drop it in an alliance so cheap to dec? I dropped it in another corp because I felt dropping it in a neutral corp and then transferring it over would be a better route than having to cloak 200km off in a GSF blockade runner and hope I could warp in and drop fast enough. In short, I was concerned about a ninja attempt, not even necessarily from you guys as much as from random passerbys, or about having the ship blown up before I completed the drop. All the wardecs did was make it take longer to transfer back to Goonwaffe 
I kinda get that now. You should have used a corp without the word GOON in it, maybe we'd have left it alone than thinking it was someone ninjaing it. To make it even better you should have wardecced said corp and laugh your ass off when all those poor hisec groups put in their request to assist 
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2927
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:36:00 -
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Didn't have another altcorp handy, and to be fair there's a certain amount of pleasure taken in going "yeah you downed a poco, I'm going to drop it with an obvious altcorp, transfer it back, and you can't do **** about it except slow me down" 
And indeed, neither you, nor lemmings, nor any of the other corps that decced mine so much as scratched the paint on the new poco. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
340
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:54:00 -
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*yawn* Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
46
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:54:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:mynnna wrote:Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does.  And that's exactly why his trolling is bad. It should have some kind of intelligent twist, not a bunch of random words. That's actually a good point, as opposed to Pete yesman's poor attempt at relevance. (Yes, I was talking about the wardecs carrying over) Touch+¬. D. 
Unfortunately you missed. I don't care for relevance, whatever you mean by tthat. And I don't know where wardecs come into this. I only enjoy goblins failure as we all do. It is quite entertaining. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3470
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Posted - 2014.02.05 08:34:00 -
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If Gevlon dares to put all his wealth on the line, and he does manage to slow Goons down, is this not a major victory? We'll all tell stories for years to come about the highsec carebear who managed to put a dent in Goonswarm.
Throw everything you have at this effort Gevlon, and you can be famous as the figurative martyr who gave up all his wealth to make a difference. It sure beats having lots of isk and people thinking you are foolish.
Use your head. Make the right choice. Be the hero we all will remember. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
481
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Posted - 2014.02.05 13:07:00 -
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Erotica, with examples like your fine self, mister Goblin will surely succeed!
Who knows, maybe the Order knights could team up with Lemmings and rekindle what transpired a couple of months ago (and with more defeated goons)?;
Erotica 1 wrote: ///////////////////
BREAKING NEWS
More to follow.
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***************************************************************** This message is for all those who wish to take action against illegal miners- anywhere they hide. Since many of our supporters are not in player corps, I must place this message here instead of CAOD. *****************************************************************
Illegal miners have been found to be taking refuge in and around E-YCML. The "Sev3rance" alliance has been found to be harboring these fugitives. This is not acceptable.
As we speak, my corp is dropping SBU's in that system and neighboring ones.
While I will personally be heading out there in my trusty bomber, and other knights are on the way, we need YOUR HELP to wipe out this pestilence. These miners have already been spotted using their mission running ships to attack our SBU's. We cannot stand for this. We must all rise up and blot out the sun. All who love justice and the Code are welcome to join us in this crusade.
I will continue to update this thread as the news develops.
Warm Regards,
-Ero
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