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Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:59:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:Don't know how null alliances handle finances, but I think they don't live on hisec POCOs (which you still haven't destroyed, btw). You know they lived here before the POCO thing, right? We in fact do almost solely rely on them. Notice how we flew the peasant bombless bombers (damn costly bomb launchers!) right up until we owned a bunch of high sec POCOs, then suddenly pulled out a titan fleet? Coincidence?
Damn, that makes sense. I wonder why gevlon hasn't made a chart of it yet. Well, I guess you guys are doomed. Can I have your sov? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2534
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Posted - 2014.02.13 21:09:00 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:Don't know how null alliances handle finances, but I think they don't live on hisec POCOs (which you still haven't destroyed, btw). You know they lived here before the POCO thing, right? We in fact do almost solely rely on them. Notice how we flew the peasant bombless bombers (damn costly bomb launchers!) right up until we owned a bunch of high sec POCOs, then suddenly pulled out a titan fleet? Coincidence? Damn, that makes sense. I wonder why gevlon hasn't made a chart of it yet. Well, I guess you guys are doomed. Can I have your sov? I've heard the Sov is going to be smuggled out of game and converted into real life farmland, where Mittani is going to buy kittens named after each of the core GSF members so they can still rat. When you jump into any regions previously owned by the CFC, you'll just arrive at the Inaro gate instead, where we inevitably met our doom.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2673
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:12:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Please explain to me how a corp isn't a sum of it's members and hurting the members of a corp doesn't hurt the corp itself, thanks.
D.
As I showed in my ~maths~ post, if you make the error of assuming Alliance ISK = Sum of all member ISK, then the situation looks pretty bleak, and the damage done is a quite literal rounding error.
125bil from member wallets is not only within the margin of error, I would guestimate you're at least an order of magnitude away from being statistically significant.
If you stop making that error, then you have caused us to replace one POCO.
So.. GSF is down ... whatever 1 POCO costs to deploy. Let's be generous and say it's equal to one week wardeccing one alliance.
Gevlon has some catching up to do on his 'ROI' 
It's roughly equivalent to a fly hitting a wind-shield, and claiming it imparted x-amount of kinetic energy, and so "I'm doing damage honest any day now."
In both scenarios, the entity being 'hit' would have no means of noticing the impact if it was looking top-down and trying to measure it.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2673
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:13:00 -
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tl;dr you can kill CFC members in Jita until Jita runs out of ammo, but you won't present a significant threat to the CFC.
Everyone knows this except Gevlon .. and perhaps Tora.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Xolve
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2385
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:20:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Everyone knows this except Gevlon .. and perhaps Tora.
Tora knows it, despite his underlings redefining what it means to be a bad poster at every given opportunity, Tora is a pretty decent and rather intelligent fellow with an interesting sense of 'fun'.
Also- lol this is still a 'thing'? |
Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
504
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Posted - 2014.02.14 06:08:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Everyone knows this except Gevlon .. and perhaps Tora. Tora knows it, despite his underlings redefining what it means to be a bad poster at every given opportunity, Tora is a pretty decent and rather intelligent fellow with an interesting sense of 'fun'. Also- lol this is still a 'thing'?
Wait, when did Tora take over PL?
D.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
3660
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Posted - 2014.02.14 08:32:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:I am also looking for all pos you know of in highsec and low sec owned by and of the CFC alliances.
Just have Gevlon pay a Goon director for the master list so you can pick and choose.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
857
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Posted - 2014.02.14 09:27:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:I am also looking for all pos you know of in highsec and low sec owned by and of the CFC alliances. We helped out a bit and popped a Goon pos yesterday. Ok, it was offline and small, but still fun 
Xolve wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Everyone knows this except Gevlon .. and perhaps Tora. Tora knows it, despite his underlings redefining what it means to be a bad poster at every given opportunity, Tora is a pretty decent and rather intelligent fellow with an interesting sense of 'fun'. Also- lol this is still a 'thing'? It's just a game, games should be fun, without an evil enemy games get boring and if you don't try, you already failed before you started. Damn I should eat less fortune cookies. 
Good luck to Lemmings. I see you almost reached 300 players and did some nice damage during the start of the alliance.
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99004027/history/
When Lemmings gets a few thousand players big, we can have some fun together. Imation a few thousand Lemmings in T3's going trough high sec taking over all customs. Or a few thousand players in 50 men bomber fleets with VFK as their base. The possibilities are countless !
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
3660
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Posted - 2014.02.14 09:43:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:General Lemming wrote:I am also looking for all pos you know of in highsec and low sec owned by and of the CFC alliances. We helped out a bit and popped a Goon pos yesterday. Ok, it was offline and small, but still fun
Too bad you don't have any secret agents on the inside. Corps really hate it when you change all their POS corp boomarks to the sun, or an ambush location with your fleet at their optimals, while you blast the POS. Or their Jita instaundocks to some Marmite blob. I don't even know if that still works, but was fun back when I did it to terrible highsec corps.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
General Lemming
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
124
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Posted - 2014.02.14 11:30:00 -
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I like your way of thinking. Keep those ideas coming. This could go places.  |
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flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
2044
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Posted - 2014.02.14 11:38:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Please explain to me how a corp isn't a sum of it's members and hurting the members of a corp doesn't hurt the corp itself, thanks. D. GåôGåôGåô All trolling aside, if you give 10 million to RVB, it helps the entire group of people that is RVB. Thanks for proving my point.
You have a point there when it is in regards of small corps/alliances wich is why it works on high-sec alliances usually but in regards to goons or any other big null entity your idea of 'damage projection' is WAY off.
You damage indivuduals and NOT the big alliances as the people joining them will allways be higher then those leaving.The only time you will be able to affect large alliances is when they are in the process of dying allready , then you can lend a hand to speed up that process.
Thinking otherwise just shows how much you want to believe you are actually doing something 'meaningfull' not only to you or your corp.
This works both ways though , the contribution of one member in a large alliances is totally neglectable usually unless he is in high command unlike people who reside in small corps and alliances.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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General Lemming
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
125
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:40:00 -
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flakeys wrote:You damage indivuduals and NOT the big alliances as the people joining them will allways be higher then those leaving.The only time you will be able to affect large alliances is when they are in the process of dying allready , then you can lend a hand to speed up that process. I think this is want you are trying to say here ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXaRtc1f4I
General 'Neo' Lemmings
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Pew Terror
Green Associates
73
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:22:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Pew Terror wrote:This thread delivers almost daily...
I love uneducated people trying to prove stuff with limited understanding of statistics.
Protip #1: Anyone using Excel for that purpose is to be laughed at and publicly shamed.
Offtopic: I once donated 10mil ISK to RvB. Please make a fancy chart explaining how every single RvB kill is now my doing. Consider it done.
<3 Thx.
I knew i was relevent! |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
2044
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:18:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:flakeys wrote:You damage indivuduals and NOT the big alliances as the people joining them will allways be higher then those leaving.The only time you will be able to affect large alliances is when they are in the process of dying allready , then you can lend a hand to speed up that process. I think this is want you are trying to say here ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXaRtc1f4IGeneral 'Neo' Lemmings
You might want to MASSIVELY rework your portrait to play neo though ... if buttugly had a face it would be your avatar .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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General Lemming
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
126
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Posted - 2014.02.15 16:32:00 -
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haha.
It was suppose to be ugly, Goonswarm style. Maybe call it NEO after a long talk with his wife, forgetting Valentines day , while playing Eve ? |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2690
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Posted - 2014.02.15 19:48:00 -
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we just moved north of 14 trillion ISK in a single fleet, how are these rounding errors working out for you guys?
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Rhes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
726
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Posted - 2014.02.15 20:00:00 -
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Mittens just gave a State of the Goonion address. Lemmings weren't mentioned.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2957
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:03:00 -
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For all Gevlon talks up his pets and claims they could defeat or esteemed partner RvB and brags about pod ganks and so forth, the fact that their fleet turned out (in respectable numbers no less) today, AFTER RvBs war aide had dropped, proves one thing: They're all scared ****less of facing RvB in a straight up fight.
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
507
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:18:00 -
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mynnna wrote:For all Gevlon talks up his pets and claims they could defeat or esteemed partner RvB and brags about pod ganks and so forth, the fact that their fleet turned out (in respectable numbers no less) today, AFTER RvBs war aide had dropped, proves one thing: They're all scared ****less of facing RvB in a straight up fight.
Pretty sure RVB is indeed waaaaay more scary than goons or any other nullbear bunch.
Nobody is stating the opposite. +10 Points for Gryffindor!
D.
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Rhes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
726
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:07:00 -
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Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:For all Gevlon talks up his pets and claims they could defeat or esteemed partner RvB and brags about pod ganks and so forth, the fact that their fleet turned out (in respectable numbers no less) today, AFTER RvBs war aide had dropped, proves one thing: They're all scared ****less of facing RvB in a straight up fight. Pretty sure RVB is indeed waaaaay more scary than goons or any other nullbear bunch. Nobody is stating the opposite. +10 Points for Gryffindor! D.
Any group that actually leaves the Jita 4-4 undock must seem scary to you.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
507
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:13:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Danalee wrote:Pretty sure RVB is indeed waaaaay more scary than goons or any other nullbear bunch. Nobody is stating the opposite. +10 Points for Gryffindor! D. Any group that actually leaves the Jita 4-4 undock must seem scary to you.
Comming from a risk averse nullbear who wouldn't find his F1 key if an angsty teen wasn't shouting at him... I'll take that as a compliment.
D.
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General Lemming
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
128
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:22:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Mittens just gave a State of the Goonion address. Lemmings weren't mentioned. http://i.imgur.com/WeieyEn.png
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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2957
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:42:00 -
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Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:For all Gevlon talks up his pets and claims they could defeat or esteemed partner RvB and brags about pod ganks and so forth, the fact that their fleet turned out (in respectable numbers no less) today, AFTER RvBs war aide had dropped, proves one thing: They're all scared ****less of facing RvB in a straight up fight. Pretty sure RVB is indeed waaaaay more scary than goons or any other nullbear bunch. Nobody is stating the opposite. +10 Points for Gryffindor! D.
You get a certain amount of props for admitting your cowardice, at least.
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
507
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:54:00 -
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mynnna wrote:
You get a certain amount of props for admitting your cowardice, at least.
Wait... as a member of the biggest coalition in eve ever, hiding behind RVB at every opportunity you are calling others out on their bravery?
That's just...  wrong
This, however, is funny: http://i.imgur.com/WeieyEn.png
D.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2690
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:10:00 -
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Last time you reffed the POCOs we didn't have RvB to "hide behind" and you still ran away to the nearest docking ring.
You're going to have to explain how you retreating is an act of us hiding 
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
507
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:23:00 -
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So sorry, I don't live in your little fantasy so can't comment on it.
Keep up your raid or hellcamp or whatever it is you bears call it. We'll continue the fun on your expense
D.
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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2958
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:24:00 -
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Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:
You get a certain amount of props for admitting your cowardice, at least.
Wait... as a member of the biggest coalition in eve ever, hiding behind RVB at every opportunity you are calling others out on their bravery? That's just... wrong This, however, is funny: http://i.imgur.com/WeieyEn.pngD.
Perhaps, difference is we have no pretensions we're trying to keep up.
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
509
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:49:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:
You get a certain amount of props for admitting your cowardice, at least.
Wait... as a member of the biggest coalition in eve ever, hiding behind RVB at every opportunity you are calling others out on their bravery? That's just... wrong This, however, is funny: http://i.imgur.com/WeieyEn.pngD. Perhaps, difference is we have no pretensions we're trying to keep up.
Can't help noticing irony isn't your fort+¬.
D.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2543
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:55:00 -
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Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:
You get a certain amount of props for admitting your cowardice, at least.
Wait... as a member of the biggest coalition in eve ever, hiding behind RVB at every opportunity you are calling others out on their bravery? That's just... wrong This, however, is funny: http://i.imgur.com/WeieyEn.png Perhaps, difference is we have no pretensions we're trying to keep up. Can't help noticing irony isn't your fort+¬. Coming from you, that means quite literally nothing.
I eagerly await yet another failed attempt at a witty retort. Please proceed below.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2543
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:58:00 -
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Danalee wrote:mynnna wrote:
You get a certain amount of props for admitting your cowardice, at least.
Wait... as a member of the biggest coalition in eve ever, hiding behind RVB at every opportunity you are calling others out on their bravery? That's just... wrong This, however, is funny: http://i.imgur.com/WeieyEn.png Golly gosh, you are right! People get notifications! Hilarious!
Not quite as amusing as it will be when once again the timers tick down, Lemmings fly to the other side of high sec to keep their distance, and Tora bolts for the docking ring so fast that the order to evac hasn't even been transmitted yet. Or are you actually planning on trying to engage in combat this time?
Oh wait, no, that might damage your precious KB efficiency, then you'd have to find something else to fap to.
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