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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7143
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:19:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Roc Tazinas will say Hi from Sol! ;)
Grats, I guess? The funnier one would have been Joel Freon, who whelped a T3 cruiser the other day. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Dani Dusette
Rolled Out
1680
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:21:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Dani Dusette wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Yeah, some corpmates were trying to get me to suicide all my characters and sell them a full set the other evening. inb4 we are all awoxed in the night. In our beds. Who wouldn't want to awox you in his bed? ;) Nice looks. (:
Mizhir:-á "Dani Dusette, Best Dusette" Samoth Egnoled: "Make sure you turn yourself often and bathe in your own juices." ISD Ezwal: "Might I inform you that I am as real as it gets?" |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2326
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:22:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Roc Tazinas will say Hi from Sol! ;) Grats, I guess? The funnier one would have been Joel Freon, who whelped a T3 cruiser the other day. Found him APing at the gate to Uttindar, in Hek.
His name pretty much was the reason I came after him, just to make him say Hi to you. xD
He lost a few skillbooks on his way.... The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
510
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:22:00 -
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Zappity wrote:I think routinely ganking empty freighters is pretty stupid. There is no defence against this other than not flying freighters. Going down this path will definitely result in a further nerf to ganking.
Everything should have a counter. It should be carrying a cargo value below the ganking threshold.
EVE has a reputation for being brutal for a reason. Most of the time, EVE is all about finding a weaker target and then mercilessly crushing them. We all win some and we all lose some.
Do you realize that this thread is only encouraging people to go gank empty freighters? Asking gankers to live by a sort of bro-code will not end well.
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ashley Eoner
311
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:22:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:ashley Eoner wrote: Indeed undock warp to zero click overheat press f1 is very hard...
Is there a point to that nonsense, or would you like me to highlight how it's still more effort than their victims have ever put into the game? Considering I know some of the victims mount tanks and attempt to avoid ganks only to be bumped on the gate by a rookie ship long enough for the "real pvpers" to come in and press f1...
Bumping a charon is trivial. You can bump a freighter with hobgoblins for god's sake.
But yeah sure tell me about how every single person who is ganked was afk piloting a non tanked ship with +4b in their ship's hold... |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7143
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:22:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Roc Tazinas will say Hi from Sol! ;) Grats, I guess? The funnier one would have been Joel Freon, who whelped a T3 cruiser the other day. Found him APing at the gate to Uttindar, in Hek. His name pretty much was the reason I came after him, just to make him say Hi to you. xD He lost a few skillbooks on his way....
Good for you. Autopiloting isn't a good idea. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1175
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:23:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Zappity wrote:I think routinely ganking empty freighters is pretty stupid. There is no defence against this other than not flying freighters. Going down this path will definitely result in a further nerf to ganking.
Everything should have a counter. It should be carrying a cargo value below the ganking threshold. EVE has a reputation for being brutal for a reason. Most of the time, EVE is all about finding a weaker target and then mercilessly crushing them. We all win some and we all lose some. Do you realize that this thread is only encouraging people to go gank empty freighters? Asking gankers to live by a sort of bro-code will not end well. I was not making a "value judgement" about ganking but rather commenting on the inevitable, self-defeating outcome of such action. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Hal Morsh
404 Ship Not Found Violent Declaration
116
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:25:00 -
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I think nerfing station games might be beneficial to this problem... Maybe..
The real problem is some people just have too many alts and too much isk. They may even be isboxers in mining fleets ganking with an alt.
It wouldn't be such an issue if retaliation was actually possible. But docked alts like said previously can't be countered.
The only solution would to have your own alts in some cruisers and fast lockers to escort you. Alts to beat alts. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7143
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:26:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Considering I know some of the victims mount tanks and attempt to avoid ganks only to be bumped on the gate by a rookie ship long enough for the "real pvpers" to come in and press f1...
Bumping a charon is trivial. You can bump a freighter with hobgoblins for god's sake.
Obvious hyperbole does not help your case any. It just makes it look like you don't have any left to argue with, but you want to keep arguing.
Quote: But yeah sure tell me about how every single person who is ganked was afk piloting a non tanked ship with +4b in their ship's hold...
No, just doing one of those thing warrants death. Let alone all three, which means you shouldn't even make it five jumps if there were any justice.
Quote: Still doesn't change the fact that I accurately described what is involved with being the ganker while you resort to silly caricatures..
Undock. Activate autopilot. Congratulations, you can be a hauler.
Pointing out something that requires low effort is not a good strategy when you are trying to defend something that requires even less. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1205
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:28:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:...exhibiting bot aspirant behavior... Uses a function built into the game exactly as intended Accepts the associated risk inherent with using that function Doesn't use keystoke repeaters or other outside input automation Is somehow still "bot aspirant" |
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ashley Eoner
312
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:30:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Obvious hyperbole does not help your case any. It just makes it look like you don't have any left to argue with, but you want to keep arguing. Not a single drop of hyperbole in there. Hobgoblins can bump freighters I've done it to myself. I've also ganked people who mounted tanks as I operate a gank fleet on secondary characters. I only gank specific targets for specific reasons though.
Quote: Undock. Activate autopilot. Congratulations, you can be a hauler.
Pointing out something that requires low effort is not a good strategy when you are trying to defend something that requires even less.
Wow you must really suck at this game. You can't even properly autopilot....
I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. You on the other hand have assigned all kinds of arguments to me that I have not made. |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
174
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:30:00 -
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I do not understand what OP's problem is. I for one have a Charon pilot. He never travels alone. He is never AFK's . I use a one jump scout. He has a tank fit. I went through Aufrey a total 15 times across Saturday, Sunday, and today. Never looked close to being ganked jumping over 150 jumps. The only time I docked was when scout saw 20+ flashy's on one gate.
Flying any ship without due care and attention demands the loss of ship. AFK demands the loss of pod. I still use Dscan in Hi sec (old habits die hard)
Anybody losing any ship to ganks lost it by their own complacency / greed. |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
510
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:30:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:Zappity wrote:I think routinely ganking empty freighters is pretty stupid. There is no defence against this other than not flying freighters. Going down this path will definitely result in a further nerf to ganking.
Everything should have a counter. It should be carrying a cargo value below the ganking threshold. EVE has a reputation for being brutal for a reason. Most of the time, EVE is all about finding a weaker target and then mercilessly crushing them. We all win some and we all lose some. Do you realize that this thread is only encouraging people to go gank empty freighters? Asking gankers to live by a sort of bro-code will not end well. I was not making a "value judgement" about ganking but rather commenting on the inevitable, self-defeating outcome of such action.
You're assuming that the game designers would be forced to address ganking if people were to continue unprofitable ganking. I don't know if that's a very safe assumption.
Besides, people have always done things just for lulz. If freighter pilots start flying around in properly tanked freighters, I doubt we'll be seeing a sustained effort to gank empty freighters given the expense involved.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2327
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:30:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:...exhibiting bot aspirant behavior... Uses a function built into the game exactly as intended Accepts the associated risk inherent with using that function Doesn't use keystoke repeaters or other outside input automation Is somehow still "bot aspirant" The worst part is how he is parrotting NOob propaganda this way and I'm not sure he actually intends to do so.
Of course APers deserve to die, but what he said is just propaganda crap. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7145
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:30:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:...exhibiting bot aspirant behavior... Uses a function built into the game exactly as intended Accepts the associated risk inherent with using that function Doesn't use keystoke repeaters or other outside input automation Is somehow still "bot aspirant"
If they cry on the forums about how low sec status people shouldn't be allowed in highsec, is that really "accepts the associated risk" to you? I'm just curious about that. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
ashley Eoner
312
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:31:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:...exhibiting bot aspirant behavior... Uses a function built into the game exactly as intended Accepts the associated risk inherent with using that function Doesn't use keystoke repeaters or other outside input automation Is somehow still "bot aspirant" It's a troll routine don't try to put much thought into it as Kaarous certainly isn't...
EDIT : I must admit the whole code thing is a super effective troll. Bonus points in that the troll requires very little actual effort. Just some simple copy paste and local/chat/forums erupt in a fever pitch. My inner troll finds it entirely impressive that so little can cause so much. |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
510
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:33:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:The real problem is some people just have too many alts and too much isk.
There is no such thing
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7145
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:33:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote: Not a single drop of hyperbole in there. Hobgoblins can bump freighters I've done it to myself.
Oh, this should be rich. Go on, please tell me more about how a drone can bump a freighter.
Quote: I'm not trying to defend anything.
Actually, yeah, you are. Your exceedingly bad carebear apologist post history makes that pretty clear. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
27229
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:34:00 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote: Subscriptions are up. They've been going up, despite everyone claiming that this sort of thing is "killing EvE."
Do you have proof of this?
I've been playing this game for almost 6 yrs and I've noticed a definite decrease in the amount of players online compared to back when I first started playing this game.
baltec1 wrote: Ganking is at an all time low. I am old enough to remember what pirates used to get up to in high sec and today is nothing like the slaughter back then.
I disagree with that. Suicide ganking is running rampant in high security. It's definitely a lot more prevalent now than it was back when I started playing in 2008.
Winter Archipelago wrote:If people honestly think that blocking low-sec-status people out of highsec (or even highsec stations) wouldn't have a significant effect on players simply quitting, remember that the reason CCP put tags in for raising sec status is because enough people were simply quitting EvE instead of trying to drag their sec status back up.
The 'Tags For Security' was just the last piece needed to help complete all the other recent game changes designed to make it much easier to do suicide ganking.
In no particular order - Ratting security status timer reduced from 20 minutes to 5 minutes, Ice Fields / Ore Signatures turned into Anomalies, System Sensor Sweep added to quickly show Anomalies at 100% which removed the need for probing and nullified the use of D-scan, Destroyers buffed, T3 Battlecruisers added, Racial Mining Frigate / Cruiser bonus attributes changed (Mining Bonus Removed), Ore Mining Ship attributes changed with Ore Mining Frigate added, Meta 0 loot and Drone Alloys / Compounds removed along with NPC loot drops nerfed under the guise of removing 'Gun Mining' in order to revitalize and help promote the mining career. What it actually did was create more targets for Suicide Gankers by forcing players to use ships that are nothing more than a large red bulls-eye target.
Obviously it's much easier with more ISK gained by just sitting on a gate suicide ganking Freighters en-route to Trade Hubs then it is to roam Asteroid Belts / Cosmic Anomalies looking for Mining ships.... My point was to show how over time all these various little changes and added content was actually done with the overall intention of providing easy play mode for suicide ganking.
DMC
Faction Standing Repair Plan | California Eve Players | (Proposal) Bring Back 'The Endless Battle' Missions |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1205
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:34:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:...exhibiting bot aspirant behavior... Uses a function built into the game exactly as intended Accepts the associated risk inherent with using that function Doesn't use keystoke repeaters or other outside input automation Is somehow still "bot aspirant" If they cry on the forums about how low sec status people shouldn't be allowed in highsec, is that really "accepts the associated risk" to you? I'm just curious about that. Did they all do that? If one does for every 10, or 5 or even 2 does that label them all as not accepting that risk? |
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ashley Eoner
312
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:34:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:ashley Eoner wrote: Not a single drop of hyperbole in there. Hobgoblins can bump freighters I've done it to myself. Oh, this should be rich. Go on, please tell me more about how a drone can bump a freighter. The drone bounces into the side of the freighter.
Quote:Actually, yeah, you are. Your exceedingly bad carebear apologist post history makes that pretty clear. I'm glad that we agree that gankers are risk adverse carebears. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14393
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:36:00 -
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Oh my.. this thread is getting good.
X up for popcorn refills. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7145
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:37:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:]Did they all do that?
The OP did, which is kind of the point. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7145
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:39:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Do you have proof of this?
I love how the first thing out of your mouth is to ask for proof of an assertion, and then make a crapton of assertions based on nothing more than your own specious anecdotes. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1205
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:40:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Did they all do that? The OP did, which is kind of the point. So this was limited to the op? Not to any of the other freighter pilots ganked while on autopilot? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7145
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:42:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Did they all do that? The OP did, which is kind of the point. So this was limited to the op? Not to any of the other freighter pilots ganked while on autopilot?
Does context mean anything to you? Or are you being pedantic on purpose? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
511
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:42:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Oh my.. this thread is getting good.
X up for popcorn refills.
The tear collector that I anchored on the 2nd page has already filled up (sooner than I expected). Time to anchor another... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
646
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:45:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Did they all do that? The OP did, which is kind of the point. So this was limited to the op? Not to any of the other freighter pilots ganked while on autopilot? Technically, it was the autopilot that was ganked. The self-defined 'pilot' has nothing to complain about, he wasn't even there.
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Oh my.. this thread is getting good.
X up for popcorn refills. X |
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
308
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:45:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Do you have proof of this?
I love how the first thing out of your mouth is to ask for proof of an assertion, and then make a crapton of assertions based on nothing more than your own specious anecdotes.
I love how every time someone asks you for proof you only manage to write derogatory comments in response. Profit favors the prepared |
ashley Eoner
313
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:45:00 -
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To answer the question posed in the title of this post. I don't think suicide ganking is a problem yet. I believe the situation does warrant continued monitoring though. |
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