I want to point out the kills made by the character loyalanon and his buddies, specifically many of the kills made in Aufay (0.5) on 14th june. You can find them on eve-kill.net

I am not linking direct to the killboard, but his group (mostly his corporation "The Conference Elite" and a few others, suicide ganked freighters, many of them empty or carrying nothing of value. They also targetted other ships of value where they could cause a large isk loss to the player, even if they were certain to get nothing out of it for themselves.

It used to be just the freighters carrying too high value cargo that were targetted, but now, even empty ships are targetted.

I personally don't care if changes are made to fix this or not. It doesn't affect me directly, I do not use frieghters or other high value ships. This is just an observation I made, a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?

A game within a game. Worship me. I am the Freighter Goddess. Anyone claiming sovereignty over the souls of astro-truckers is a charlatan and a knave. (Some commoner called James seems to have grown too big for his broom closet.)

Send me everything all at once TWICE and I'll ensure you're never again bothered as you keep it between the ditches, slammin' those gears down the highway of life.

Just to show yah how much I love yah:

Girl On The Billboard

Six Days On The Road

Drivin' My Life Away

Lookin' At The World Through A Windshield

Flying along a trade route without backup is always a risk. Had my heart pumping when I flew my alt through Aufay with 750mil in the hold. Good thing the tank of the new DSTs isn't easily estimated, makes a gank attempt riskier, thus less likely.

They also targetted other ships of value where they could cause a large isk loss to the player, even if they were certain to get nothing out of it for themselves.

Cold blooded murder is what we have here.... Gutless punks. No ransom, no war dec, just a bunch of cowardly highsec pvp wannabes.... CCP needs to rectify this crap by reworking the lame criminal system.... Core. can go take a flying -------- off the nearest bridge, biggest carebear alliance in EVE. Man up and try to do actual pvp in this fine game instead of acting like a bunch of useless fooks..... Grow a pair and start taking some null space u dam highsec carebears, or atleast start ganking ships that really matter , war decs etc etc.......


If u need me, feel free to run a locator and I'll educate u on real pvp,..... YA, I'M TALKING TO U CORE.

Should this expansion be renamed Cry-us?

Notification 16.6.2014 16:37: Carmen Electra deployed Large Tear Collection Array II

If u need me, feel free to run a locator and I'll educate u on real pvp,..... YA, I'M TALKING TO U CORE.

If you say things like this,be prepared to have people look up your killboard, which appears to be completely empty.

oops

if people want to whine and the result is a nerf to ganker's playstyle.... you think they won't take that personally and torch every freighter they see?

really?

actions have consequences.

I want to point out the kills made by the character loyalanon and his buddies, specifically many of the kills made in Aufay (0.5) on 14th june. You can find them on eve-kill.net

I am not linking direct to the killboard, but his group (mostly his corporation "The Conference Elite" and a few others, suicide ganked freighters, many of them empty or carrying nothing of value. They also targetted other ships of value where they could cause a large isk loss to the player, even if they were certain to get nothing out of it for themselves.

It used to be just the freighters carrying too high value cargo that were targetted, but now, even empty ships are targetted.

I personally don't care if changes are made to fix this or not. It doesn't affect me directly, I do not use frieghters or other high value ships. This is just an observation I made, a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?

...a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?

Of course, an empty freighter attacked is done for one reason only, to cause tears.

Nope.

The problem is that these people hide in station so much that people rightfully have the feeling
that they can't do anything about it ... because they can't.
These cowards hide, have neutral alts finding targets,
undock, strike, dock up again.
The whole ganking process doesn't take even a minute.
The issue is NOT that they can do what they do,
the issue is that they do it in the poorest possible way,
negatively affecting the whole profession.
What CCP needs to remove is that people can play this way,
because they shouldn't. Being outlaw in highsec should be dangerous.
Well ... it is ... but not for the easy-mode carebear gankers.

The problem is that -10 characters or other low sec status characters can operate ships and attack people in high security space.

due to previous nerfs to the ganking playstyle, gankers are forced to wait in stations for long periods of time. that is, they're forced not to play the game. there's no reason to undock at -10 until a target is found. gankers use alts like everyone else in space. gankers adapt to the game and find the most efficient way to conduct their business. if certain anti-tanked freighter pilots would do the same there'd be a lot less whining in gd


why is that a problem?

Many of those ganked and pod killed were in empty freighters, or shuttles, or pretty much any ship is targetted just for the sake of getting a kill and hoping to kill a pod full of implants.

I wonder how many cancel their subscription.

The problem is that -10 characters or other low sec status characters can operate ships and attack people in high security space.

When a character who has aggressed concord undocks or boards a ship, his ship is barred from warping. If concord can do that, then there is no reason the same can't be applied to an outlaw who undocks or boards a ship in high security space. He should be barred from warping or activating weapons.

Ganking will still be possible, but it won't be so ridiculously easy as it is now.

Negging your security for ganking was supposed to be a deterrant but for most gankers it makes no difference at all. They continue to operate in high security space with -10 security status. It's not a detterant.

Quit whining for CCP to hold your hand, and either fix the "problem" yourself, or go back to WoW.

Quit whining and do something about it. Those players are already -10, as you said, but they hadn't done anything up to that point that hasn't already been punished (either be sec status loss or by CONCORD taking out their ship). They did the crime, and got punished for it. Finite crime does not beget infinite punishment.

If they're such a problem, get a Tornado, set it up for insta-locking, and camp them into their station. Catalysts (especially gank-fit Catalysts) aren't that difficult to kill.

Quit whining for CCP to hold your hand, and either fix the "problem" yourself, or go back to WoW.

The problem is that -10 characters or other low sec status characters can operate ships and attack people in high security space.

When a character who has aggressed concord undocks or boards a ship, his ship is barred from warping. If concord can do that, then there is no reason the same can't be applied to an outlaw who undocks or boards a ship in high security space. He should be barred from warping or activating weapons.

Ganking will still be possible, but it won't be so ridiculously easy as it is now.

So basically what your saying is for the freighter pilot who just got gutted, to reship into an insta lock tornado with 1400mm artties that he may or may not be able to fly and station camp someones throw away alt?


mmmkay