I am not linking direct to the killboard, but his group (mostly his corporation "The Conference Elite" and a few others, suicide ganked freighters, many of them empty or carrying nothing of value. They also targetted other ships of value where they could cause a large isk loss to the player, even if they were certain to get nothing out of it for themselves.

A -10 character, or a character with sec status below the accepted system minimum requirement should not be able to chain gank people. They should be barred from boarding a ship in high security space, or at least barred from entering warp in any ship except for a pod. It's exactly the same as when a concord flagged player tries to undock in a ship or board a ship, concord has you blocked from activating your warp drive. If concord can already do this, then there's no reason why they can't do this automatically to players who fall below the minimum system security status. They can still travel through empire in a pod, they just can't chain gank people. It's stupid that concord would allow this to happen.

I love how every time someone asks you for proof you only manage to write derogatory comments in response.

Does context mean anything to you? Or are you being pedantic on purpose?

Technically, it was the autopilot that was ganked. The self-defined 'pilot' has nothing to complain about, he wasn't even there.

A -10 character, or a character with sec status below the accepted system minimum requirement should not be able to chain gank people. They should be barred from boarding a ship in high security space, or at least barred from entering warp in any ship except for a pod. It's exactly the same as when a concord flagged player tries to undock in a ship or board a ship, concord has you blocked from activating your warp drive. If concord can already do this, then there's no reason why they can't do this automatically to players who fall below the minimum system security status. They can still travel through empire in a pod, they just can't chain gank people. It's stupid that concord would allow this to happen.

I just don't see how the context of the thread or the statement somehow creates this out you are trying to create. Really being bot aspirant should have more to do with in game actions and the fact the even unknowingly, the op had to accept that risk to get ganked.

Many of those ganked and pod killed were in empty freighters, or shuttles, or pretty much any ship is targetted just for the sake of getting a kill and hoping to kill a pod full of implants.

I wonder how many cancel their subscription.

It does. Or lack of actions, anyway.

I was just curious if you think that "accepts the risk" includes the OP and many other similar whines. That's why I said "I'm just curious about that".

I don't personally care about what you would choose to define "bot aspirant" as, I was just curious as to whether crying on the forums that people are allowed to shoot other people somehow acts as a disqualifier.

Excessive hisec ganking is.... extremely easy to get into, you have free catalysts for life, and KMs are everywhere to be found. This is compared with other areas of the game, which are not easy to get into, can be difficult to stay ISK positive, and finding fights is at least half the struggle.

There are no hisec mechanics that can be tweaked to change this without destroying the game.

there's a "new breed" that isn't interested in anything that is involved or takes effort.

Same reason everyone bitches about taxes, you work hard for your money and it pisses you off when someone takes it from you. Only difference is you can't not pay taxes but you sure can stop playing eve.

If indeed these are the majority of the suicide gankers, I assure you you have nothing to worry about.

Unless, of course, you are even less involved and/or put even less effort in the game.

Ultimately, all I gained to understand from you, OP, is that you are very much a solo player. Please join the rest of us in EVE-Multiplayer mode. That way you can recruit friends to help you get to your destination safely.

In real life if you don't do things right (aka put a TANK on your finances) you get screwed. If you are just happy go lucky and put your finances on auto-pilot, you deserve that screwing.

As in real life, thus is it in EVE. protect your assets if you want them, but do't get mad if they get taken away because you were sloppy.

I sort of thought you were trying to compare EVE's rewards and punishment system to one that actually WORKS.

I'm not the one trying to claim the game is dying, that EVE is losing subs because people are allowed to shoot at each other.

I'd have to say the burden of proof is on your side. Especially when Crimson posts such obvious horseshit as "there were totally more people playing six years ago when the game had 40% the number of active subs than it does right now!".

That's debatable.

So... yesterday i went out in a fast locking cruiser with an alt flying with it with RSB-¦s... i was looking for suicide gankers to kill, but sadly could not find any which is really sad. With all the whining going on about suicide ganking one might think it should be a lot easier fo find them, especially in 0.5 systems.

When i heared about aufay (i do not even sit in any channel that would have remotly anything to do with that area of space) I was really sad that they chose that area, because non of my chars that could pop a few -10 dessys can go to gallente space.

I think eve needs more suicide gankers so i can hunt more easy to kill dessys.

Anyone complaining about them and crying to ccp quite simply is just a lazy piece of ****. You have the tools to stop them. No1 stops you from camping the stations they use for hours and to stop them from suicide ganking, but you do not do it quite simply because you wanna make more ISK and rather come to the forums and cry about the situation.

If the people would stop to only care about ISK the life of suicide gankers or any -10 chars in high sec would be miserable. Crying about the situation only shows how ******* lazy you ppl are.

Obviously you're a tool but not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Amount of subscriptions has nothing to do with the amount of players logged into the game. Years ago it was a normal thing to see upwards of 60k logged in whereas now it's lucky to see 40k logged in.

By the way, I haven't seen any CCP postings about record breaking amounts of players logged in for quite a while now. As for the amount of subscriptions they actually boast about, that's probably an overall amount for the entire time this game has been active.

Please explain how having over 500k active subscriptions only nets on average 35k players online.


DMC

Greetings esteemed community!

I have read through the pages and pages of, mostly tears however there are some good points that have been made.

However I would like for everyone to keep an open mind in regards to what I am about to say in my (entitled) wall of text.

First and foremost, Who said anything about anywhere being safe in eve?

Second, If you are autopiloting and not at the keyboard, what makes you think you are safe?
(Hint: Autopilot is not a button for safe mode)

Third - Why should the entire game be changed because you were AFK and/or decided to autopilot through known Code./gankers ganking hotspots?

Fourth - I keep hearing that subscriptions are going down due to Suicide ganking, can someone provide proof of this? if not stfu about it.

Fifth - CCP gave changes to Freighters so that people can fit tanks etc, If you still choose to autopilot with no cargo and expanded cargoholds, that just goes to show how much you pay attention to anything. The Reenforced bulkhead mods are less then a mil each. x3 would definitly help you keep your beloved ships.

Check our killboard, 90% of freighters still refuse to fit tanks. I know I would want to protect my investment why don't you?

Sixth - Carebears think that if they cry enough that CCP will eliminate a certain game play style in eve just because you don't agree with it, there are 20 other people who agree with it. Freighters were given the ability to "protect" themselves, if you choose not to, that's your problem not ours.

If you love your freighter so much, take steps to avoid losing it. Instead of whining on the forums about how unfair it is when you lost it because you autopiloted and went away from your desk due to whatever reason.

Can the Titan Pilot who decided to go afk and was bumped out of the POS by a random alliance member cry that it was unfair its game mechanics, working as intended.

Carebears - This is a mulitplayer game, and as such we will play the game with you whether you like it or not. If you want to play singleplayer game go to the Steam website, create an account and click on - Singleplayer. Buy a game, enjoy.

Seven - Whats stopping you from moving to null sec or low sec if you don't like high sec?

All arguments aside, cant we all just get back to shooting spaceships in a shooting spaceships game?

/thread

You lost me at "stfu" something you seem unable to do.
TL;DR

Uh...yeah, right. Your dubious assurances are welcome. Who are you, anyway?
Someone who can give assurances? I'm sure. You must know.

I really doubt many people "quit" over getting suicide ganked, TBH. Such comments are just a thinly veiled attempt to be "spiteful".

I really doubt many people "quit" over getting suicide ganked, TBH. Such comments are just a thinly veiled attempt to be "spiteful".

I'm glad you realized that your original argument is so weak that it isn't even worth defending.

Guess again there Skippy.

Fifth - CCP gave changes to Freighters so that people can fit tanks etc, If you still choose to autopilot with no cargo and expanded cargoholds, that just goes to show how much you pay attention to anything. The Reenforced bulkhead mods are less then a mil each. x3 would definitly help you keep your beloved ships.

Check our killboard, 90% of freighters still refuse to fit tanks. I know I would want to protect my investment why don't you?