Actually I play Guns of Icarus while I wait out criminal timers. Netflix has gotten fairly bad in recent years, their selection sucks.

Have you watched Dexter?

I'm hoping for IZ, running over gankers with his motorcycle.

Have you watched Dexter?

[fantastic stuffs]

Because in real life d bags who are d bags just for the sake of being a d bag generally get punished harshly for it.

One of us has to.




It's only confusing if you don't realize that there are other ways to lose sec status than ganking. And there are low sec status pilots out there that are not suicide gankers. I would wager to say the majority of them.

So, what it "implies" (as opposed to what you incorrectly infer), is that I believe that the people who cry about how gankers always dock up until they find a target are hypocrites for defending the very thing that makes up a large part of why low sec status characters stay docked up in the first place. And that I think you'd see more low sec status characters undocked in open space if facpo were removed from the game for everyone except faction warfare characters.




Actually I play Guns of Icarus while I wait out criminal timers. Netflix has gotten fairly bad in recent years, their selection sucks.

Screams about how countering suicide gankers is hard and boring

Proving otherwise, with a low SP character and presumably as a relatively new player

Bumping is the only issue I believe that should be looked into.

Even with a escort all you have to do is just bring in a second mach pilot and you are going to get bumped, also as much as I would love to say this is game where you play with other players, it should not be a necessity when it comes to flying a freighter / JF.

If the only way to avoid getting bumped is to use a "legal Loophole" then something is wrong

I honestly have no idea how the mechanics could be changed but what I do not want is to see any kind of official ruling that bumping is not allowed or anything silly like that.

I can understand the frustration when you being bumped as once you received the initial bump you are as good as dead, well it is out of your hands at any rate.

One person is doing it right, the other is not.

not really a new player... playing since 2003.. just can not post with my main ;).... and my proper chars are not welcome in high sec ^^.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.

lol fair enough, doesn't alter the fact that countering suicide gankers with a low SP character is totally possible, as proved by yourself.

As it's not even *possible* that horrible things happen to a ganker... not even half a quarter of a tenth as horrible as being ganked.

Unless you object that arsonists get a carte blanche since the consequences of their actions rarely catch up with them, and never do on them the harm those actions do unto others.

I've never seen a ganker ragequit over something horrible that happened to him after ganking someone. Never. As it's not even *possible* that horrible things happen to a ganker... not even half a quarter of a tenth as horrible as being ganked.

Unless you object that arsonists get a carte blanche since the consequences of their actions rarely catch up with them, and never do on them the harm those actions do unto others.

Unless you object that arsonists get a carte blanche since the consequences of their actions rarely catch up with them, and never do on them the harm those actions do unto others.

I've never seen a ganker ragequit over something horrible that happened to him after ganking someone. Never. As it's not even *possible* that horrible things happen to a ganker... not even half a quarter of a tenth as horrible as being ganked.

it's not even *possible* that horrible things happen to a ganker..

stuff

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.

Needs moar vertical space conservation

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.

They already have, and it's neither an exploit, or griefing.

I will just let you know this: the mammal that kills more people every year is not a predator, and most predators think twice before bothering it as horrible things may happen to them afterwards.

And now keep pattign each other's backs and ensure nothing against the Church of Gank is said here.

I want to point out the kills made by the character loyalanon and his buddies, specifically many of the kills made in Aufay (0.5) on 14th june. You can find them on eve-kill.net

I am not linking direct to the killboard, but his group (mostly his corporation "The Conference Elite" and a few others, suicide ganked freighters, many of them empty or carrying nothing of value. They also targetted other ships of value where they could cause a large isk loss to the player, even if they were certain to get nothing out of it for themselves.

It used to be just the freighters carrying too high value cargo that were targetted, but now, even empty ships are targetted.

I personally don't care if changes are made to fix this or not. It doesn't affect me directly, I do not use frieghters or other high value ships. This is just an observation I made, a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?

A -10 character, or a character with sec status below the accepted system minimum requirement should not be able to chain gank people. They should be barred from boarding a ship in high security space, or at least barred from entering warp in any ship except for a pod. It's exactly the same as when a concord flagged player tries to undock in a ship or board a ship, concord has you blocked from activating your warp drive. If concord can already do this, then there's no reason why they can't do this automatically to players who fall below the minimum system security status. They can still travel through empire in a pod, they just can't chain gank people. It's stupid that concord would allow this to happen.