I didnt. Was my original name before the forum warriors reported it and they made me change it. Sure it was some type of forum glitch.

Ah ok, sorry for bringing it up

So to recap:

Ganking is up, or down, or flat. One of those is bound to be right.
CFC is resetting RZR and renting out Tenal.
Tippia has apparently won Eve at some point.
T3s are still not peacetime reimburseable.
Hulks are terrible for solo mining.

Has anyone else seen odd things happening with people's names on the forums?

Until the screen refreshed, one of the people on here's name was displayed as Hollyshocker Twointhesink....

Its not ganking in Lowsec. Honestly, do you even hear yourself?

Mining in a Retriever ANYWHERE where you dont have System Control is dangerous, its a weak ship.

So yes, choosing a Ret over a Proc IS a stupid action and the pilot DOES deserve what they get, provided they havent been advised by a terrible CEO to drive the wrong ship.

Please learn what words mean.



In other words Hi-Sec miners need to have a hard lock on their mining ships at proc level, thus extending even further the tediousness of their grinding?



Funny how all your input on this subject seems to end up being 'miners deserve whatever they get'. I'd love to see how you feel about ship prices if all those miners stop mining.

I'd love to see a mass miner strike!

Kal please organise it.

Please learn what words mean.

In other words Hi-Sec miners need to have a hard lock on their mining ships at proc level, thus extending even further the tediousness of their grinding?

Funny how all your input on this subject seems to end up being 'miners deserve whatever they get'. I'd love to see how you feel about ship prices if all those miners stop mining.

Please explain how I am wrong in your opinion


What? Sorry on what planet does a Proc mine signifigantly less than the tankless heap that is a Ret? Have you actually looked at statistics or are you guessing?




No, my input is that morons who dont take responsibility for their actions get what they deserve.

I have stated THREE TIMES already that I have alts, friends and slaves who all mine perfectly well and have not suffered ganks in MONTHS and yet you refuse to even ackowledge this fact.

Couldn't you take her as a trainee slave and teach her?

Btw, wb crazy woman, I missed you (a bit).

Kal, come back! Tell us more about The Great Miner Strike!

I don't mine, so I can pretend to be on strike if it helps.

I could even riot a bit and shoot a couple of rounds at the Jita monument.

Funny how all your input on this subject seems to end up being 'miners deserve whatever they get'. I'd love to see how you feel about ship prices if all those miners stop mining.

Good news: it already does.

So what you're saying is that suicide ganking needs to be buffed, since not only do you have no element of surprise in the instant-intel world of EVE, but you also have a very minute selection of targets and even among that selection, the targets are largely self-selected rather than something the gankers can pick and choose from.

No, the exact opposite is true: it absolutely must not cost more to kill than it costs to be killed because then you have such an immense imbalance that you might as well remove 99% of the game. You are trying to use cost as a balancing factor. The problem with this is that cost can never be a balancing factor GÇö it can only, at best, be a product of balance. The moment you try balance according to cost you have removed all choice, all variety, and all balance because cost has never in the history of gaming stopped anyone from getting the GÇ£bestGÇ¥ ship that is the inevitable result of this kind of non-balance.

That proves that suicide gankign is too easy compared to waging war. If cost of suicidign is to be this one, then wars shoudl cost 10 times less than now.

What? Sorry on what planet does a Proc mine signifigantly less than the tankless heap that is a Ret? Have you actually looked at statistics or are you guessing?

No, my input is that morons who dont take responsibility for their actions get what they deserve.

I have stated THREE TIMES already that I have alts, friends and slaves who all mine perfectly well and have not suffered ganks in MONTHS and yet you refuse to even ackowledge this fact.

The proc has half the ore bay of the ret.

Why do you care that highsec is a boring place full of dumb noobs and people who are happy doing things that are pretty boring?

Sorry, you were waiting for me to acknowledge your anecdote? Really? Well I'm sure your personal experience with both your friends proves your entire case, well done.

Why do you care that highsec is a boring place full of dumb noobs and people who are happy doing things that are pretty boring? Why is it so essential to the bitter vet community that high sec of all places becomes crappier for the people who actually want to live there.

Please don't give me that 'creating content' stuff btw, it's already boring. Perhaps if people actually lived in low sec more, you'd get more genuine content instead of all this stamping on carebears crap.

You make completely no sense. Eve is about risk and effort vs reward. IT cost more and takes more effort to kill people with wars than with suicide ganks. That is inbalanced.

You make completely no sense. Eve is about risk and effort vs reward. IT cost more and takes more effort to kill people with wars than with suicide ganks. That is inbalanced.

Cost is a balancing factor , no matter how much you want it to not be. It controls how attractive an activity is. You do nto need to work as hard as wardecs, you have an extremely predictable result and the targets do not knwo you are there. Suicide gankign already have all the advantages. The proof is how expensive a target must be to be worth declarign war vs suicide ganking. declaring war usually requires that you observe the targets to operate an excess of 10 BIL isk on predictable location to make a minimum size war dec. For suicide ganking, you do not need even half a billion. No suicide ganking shoudl not cost always more than what you kill, that would be dump. But the value of the target should need to be higher...

That proves that suicide gankign is too easy compared to waging war. If cost of suicidign is to be this one, then wars shoudl cost 10 times less than now.

You make completely no sense. Eve is about risk and effort vs reward. IT cost more and takes more effort to kill people with wars than with suicide ganks. That is inbalanced.

Cost is a balancing factor , no matter how much you want it to not be. It controls how attractive an activity is.

You do nto need to work as hard as wardecs, you have an extremely predictable result and the targets do not knwo you are there.

That proves that suicide gankign is too easy compared to waging war.

No, it really doesn't, as every attempt at using it as a balancing factor has shown. This is not wanting it to be a certain way; this is game designers with decades of experience having proven it time and time again. Cost GÇö indeed any kind of availability GÇö only ever controls the grindiness of getting your hand on something and grind is trivial to overcome. It's because of that triviality and that single effect that it is useless for balance.

Again, what you're seeing is actually the exact opposite: cost as a result of balance. A ship that offers a marginal improvement in one area (and less capability in many others) are given an exponentially higher price because that's the cost of improvement. It is not a 1:1 relationship and the cost is not there to balance the improvement out. It is there to tell you how much people value that marginal improvement. It is also there to give you a range of choices in what you want to employ and for what reasons GÇö choices that are instantly removed if you try to balance using cost. Put another way: cheap crap can be as cheap as you like, it's still crap and therefore useless; and overpowered stuff is still overpowered no matter how ridiculously expensive you make it. The costs don't balance out the design flaws GÇö there is only one choice available and that is the overpowered stuff, which then sets the standard for how much you have to invest to participate.

This is so utterly and mindnumbingly wrong that it's hard to even find words..