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guigui lechat
the no fock given
7
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Posted - 2017.02.09 14:46:03 -
[1351] - Quote
can you add a tractor beam in the highs ? |
Zarek Kree
Wartime Refuge
21
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Posted - 2017.02.09 15:18:24 -
[1352] - Quote
guigui lechat wrote:can you add a tractor beam in the highs ?
I could if I fit faction DDAs, but I don't think a tractor beam could keep up. Max tractor velocity is 500 m/s, but I can't get much slower than 1000 m/s without taking more damage than the booster can handle. I might experiment with that on SiSi though. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5423
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Posted - 2017.02.09 19:53:49 -
[1353] - Quote
That's an interesting twist with your VNI fit. I might have to give that a try - thanks.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Mo Skor
Westworld Tours and Security
6
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Posted - 2017.02.11 01:11:21 -
[1354] - Quote
Sansha Nation Burner: w/daredevil
This is an alternate fit to the one's I've seen so far. It's cap stable, so you don't need to use and micro-manage booster charges. About 189m isk.
2x Light Neutron Blaster II
1x Cap Recharger II 1x 1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner 1x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
1x Centi A-Type Small Armor Repairer 1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1x Energized EM Membrane II 1x Capacitor Flux Coil II
1x Small Anti-EM Pump II 1x Small Anti-Thermal Pump II 1x Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Null from 9700m to 3100m, then switch if you want, to Void from 4000m to 1700m. I set orbit at 1400. He was almost toast by the time I got in close, so there really wasn't any need to switch to Void I don't think.
This is my alt, done on my main trackday Cotamerica. |
Takh Meir'noen
24th Imperial Recon
9
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Posted - 2017.02.12 15:07:53 -
[1355] - Quote
My Enyo fit for doing Blood Agent (Cruor):
[Enyo, Burner (Cruor)]
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpum C-Type Energized EM Membrane Corpum C-Type Energized EM Membrane Corpum C-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S [Empty High slot] Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
Hobgoblin I x1
I'm sharing it not because it's the best or fastest, but to share two things with this fit:
1. It can kill the Cruor without overheating. I've only got Assault Frigates IV & Blaster Specialization II right now, and I killed the Cruor without overheating. I currently kick out 63.5 effective DPS on the Cruor, which armor reps 37 HP/s, so it takes awhile to chew through 9,000 armor--but this works.
2. It's cap stable vs the Cruor. Instead of draining 18 GJ/s with the NOS, the small cap batteries reduce that to 10 GJ/s, and this fit has a surplus of 10.8 GJ/s, so you'll never get fully drained by this ship. Awhile back someone said they didn't think that NPC NOS is reduced by cap batteries--I can confirm it is. The Cruor drained 50 GS/s instead of 90 GS/s every 5 seconds. |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
80
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Posted - 2017.02.12 20:00:11 -
[1356] - Quote
basically same idea as zekirs med cap wolf fit at page 65. if you change it a bit like his fit you are able to install a second web. |
Takh Meir'noen
24th Imperial Recon
9
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Posted - 2017.02.13 16:04:59 -
[1357] - Quote
Ploing wrote:basically same idea as zekirs med cap wolf fit at page 65. if you change it a bit like his fit you are able to install a second web.
Wow thanks for pointing out that fit. I tweaked it a smidge and I am using this now:
[Wolf, Burner (Cruor)]
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Thermal Plating Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Stasis Webifier II 'Censer' Medium Cap Battery
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
versus Burner Cruor: OFFENSE: 91.3 eDPS (Burner Cruor armor repairs 37 HPS) DEFENSE: 212.9 eHPS (Burner Cruor does 90 EM/90 TH DPS) CAPACITOR: +14.1 GJ/s (Burner Cruor drains 18 GJ/s, reduced to 13.5 GJ/s from the cap battery)
The resist profile just makes the Wolf shine. The Enyo needs four slots to hit 180 eHPS while the Wolf only needs two. The best cap-stable/perma-tank Enyo I can build does 78 eDPS to the Burner Cruor.
Switching to the Wolf! (My Enyo still pulverizes the Worm so it's all good.) |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
80
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:22:10 -
[1358] - Quote
ah ok you are able to fly the wolf
good choice |
Takh Meir'noen
24th Imperial Recon
9
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Posted - 2017.02.13 23:32:58 -
[1359] - Quote
Ploing wrote:ah ok you are able to fly the wolf good choice
I can't do T2 autocannons yet, so I'm remedying that now. :)
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Dack Cedercin
Cerulean Holdings Inc
0
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Posted - 2017.02.16 15:16:17 -
[1360] - Quote
Anize,
I currently use the fits in your guide to run burners, but the Blood Base always gives me some trouble flying your Orthrus fit. I have all the skills in the necessary skill plan, and I've watched your video on the fight but it always takes me a lot longer to do it than you did in your video. The Ashimmu relentlessly chews on my drones, and my RLMLs always burn up to 90% heat as the first sentinel dies, causing me to do the second sentinel and the Ashimmu on unheated guns. Is the strat in your guide still applicable or should I just skip this one? |
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2578
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Posted - 2017.02.16 18:19:18 -
[1361] - Quote
I'd try using a bit less heat, fire a few volleys, heat the launchers for a few cycles, turn heat off for a few, turn it on for a few, and try to stay under 50% on the first, and then continue onto the second and heat up to ~80% and then kill the ashimmu without heat.
I tend to just skip the blood base, got annoying to run, and when I do run it I use the gila in this thread.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Zarek Kree
Wartime Refuge
22
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Posted - 2017.02.16 22:46:36 -
[1362] - Quote
I use the Gila as well and usually only have enough heat for the first Sentinel. I finish the mission fairly quickly though. In accordance with some of the recommendations here, I use disposable T1 drones and just keep launching them as they chew through them. |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
10
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Posted - 2017.02.19 11:46:48 -
[1363] - Quote
Anize told me he often skips this missions as it not only gives less reward(bugged ?) but also relies on random AI behavior. |
Garrett Osinov
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.02.23 09:17:18 -
[1364] - Quote
Guys, any suggestions, for Guristas base ? I am playing with 2 characters (2 windows), can fly alsmost anything ?
I understand it takes time, but still want to do it.
Or at least what sort of damage are they dealing ? |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
80
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Posted - 2017.02.23 10:52:24 -
[1365] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6068439#post6068439
a bit outdated but gives you an imagination. |
Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
846
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Posted - 2017.02.23 11:49:50 -
[1366] - Quote
Dack Cedercin wrote:Anize,
I currently use the fits in your guide to run burners, but the Blood Base always gives me some trouble flying your Orthrus fit. I have all the skills in the necessary skill plan, and I've watched your video on the fight but it always takes me a lot longer to do it than you did in your video. The Ashimmu relentlessly chews on my drones, and my RLMLs always burn up to 90% heat as the first sentinel dies, causing me to do the second sentinel and the Ashimmu on unheated guns. Is the strat in your guide still applicable or should I just skip this one? Hay
Yea the Orthrus fit can be... a bit touchy at times, used to be amazing before it was nerfed. I think I'll change the guide tonight to recommend the Onyx fit rather. It's a bit slower but has a much wider margin for error.
But I do often skip it as the reward is for some reason lower than other burners and the loot has decreased in value quite a bit. It's pretty sub par as mission go now and can be skipped without penalty. Still better than Gurista base, bleh.
A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
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Garrett Osinov
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.02.23 12:11:43 -
[1367] - Quote
Ploing wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6068439#post6068439
a bit outdated but gives you an imagination.
thanks a lot, I wish I knew how much DPS i need to tank on the Logi |
Karlof Starbuck
Space Ham Reloaded Rapid Unexpected Disassembly Event
1
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Posted - 2017.02.23 17:47:55 -
[1368] - Quote
Anize Oramara wrote:[quote=Dack Cedercin]Anize,
I think I'll change the guide tonight to recommend the Onyx fit rather.
A bit of feed-back for you, but would you also consider making all instances of URLs actual links?
EG (from the version linked in your forum sig): # GOOD
Thanks to everyone I stole and borrowed fits from as well. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=369477&find=unread
^^^--- actually made into a HTML link.
# BAD Quick Link to Burner Video Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzPaTWMzXCo22oa2tCmjlc9JHcyxNM_VA ^^^--- added as text, not a clickable link.
Thank you for your continued efforts on this guide. |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2597
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Posted - 2017.02.23 23:24:08 -
[1369] - Quote
the link by Ploing is my solution to the guristas base, here are my notes if you want to read more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=447834&find=unread
The only thing I'd change is putting the therm hardener on one side and the rep on the other for better heat distribution, I think my initial thought was to spread out the hardeners and heat both of them as hardeners generate a lot less heat than reps, but you don't really need to heat the exp hardener so might as well move the rep over to be able to heat it.
the incoming damage isn't too bad and is mostly thermal from the dragonflies. and the bombers do EM which is mostly mitigated by moving. Assuming your logi is an onerios it should be pretty easy to tank with the high base therm resists and small sig. Plus you can use all the slots on the logi for tank, so it should be able to out do the vigilant tank no problem.
the guristas base isn't that bad, it is just a bit slow and long compared to the other burners and the payout is lower. Also it took a really long time for the mission payout/lp reward to hit max values.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
81
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Posted - 2017.02.23 23:35:46 -
[1370] - Quote
so are they still worth to think about it ?
you know, wife, kids cats dogs and ascaped ccp hamsters have a huge disturbing potential. |
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5747
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Posted - 2017.02.24 01:23:48 -
[1371] - Quote
So with the proposed signature change to fighters... is the Guristas Base Burner mission going to be more viable?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2599
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Posted - 2017.02.24 01:34:38 -
[1372] - Quote
I doubt the change to player fighters will do anything to burner fighters. freaking things are hardcoded to cheat
@ChainsawPlankto
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5749
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Posted - 2017.02.24 09:10:45 -
[1373] - Quote
Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Aghira
Systech Astromantics Shipyard Inc.
53
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Posted - 2017.02.24 10:05:02 -
[1374] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.
[Vengeance, Angel Burner (Dramiel)]
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type EM Plating Dark Blood Energized Explosive Membrane Ballistic Control System II
Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Small Energy Nosferatu II Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Anti-EM Pump II Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x1000
Needs CPU implant or genolution set.
Es wird niemals so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, während des Krieges und nach der Jagd. (Otto von Bismarck)
english is not my native language.
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
81
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Posted - 2017.02.24 10:46:13 -
[1375] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.
[Succubus, burner dramiel capstable] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Gistii C-Type 1MN Afterburner Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Stasis Webifier II Gistum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Energy Nosferatu II
Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
needs cpu or genolution too
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
5750
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Posted - 2017.02.24 10:50:07 -
[1376] - Quote
Thanks gang - greatly appreciated!
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Zekir Shardani
xXxgayputin420xXx
3
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Posted - 2017.02.24 13:36:21 -
[1377] - Quote
Ploing wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance. [Succubus, burner dramiel capstable] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Imperial Navy Heat Sink Gistii C-Type 1MN Afterburner Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Stasis Webifier II Gistum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S Small Energy Nosferatu II Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Small Capacitor Control Circuit II needs cpu or genolution too you can change ab if you will but make sure you are faster than 839 m/s under webs
I bet it would work completely fine if you just remove one heat sink. |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
81
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Posted - 2017.02.24 14:26:17 -
[1378] - Quote
true or just use 3 meta heatsinks
btw tested a polarized version on sissy with ~450 dps and med shield booster. but that pricetag
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Garrett Osinov
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2017.02.25 09:05:25 -
[1379] - Quote
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:the link by Ploing is my solution to the guristas base, here are my notes if you want to read more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=447834&find=unread The only thing I'd change is putting the therm hardener on one side and the rep on the other for better heat distribution, I think my initial thought was to spread out the hardeners and heat both of them as hardeners generate a lot less heat than reps, but you don't really need to heat the exp hardener so might as well move the rep over to be able to heat it. the incoming damage isn't too bad and is mostly thermal from the dragonflies. and the bombers do EM which is mostly mitigated by moving. Assuming your logi is an onerios it should be pretty easy to tank with the high base therm resists and small sig. Plus you can use all the slots on the logi for tank, so it should be able to out do the vigilant tank no problem. the guristas base isn't that bad, it is just a bit slow and long compared to the other burners and the payout is lower. Also it took a really long time for the mission payout/lp reward to hit max values.
m8, do I understood correctly, those fighters do EM / Thermal damage only ? |
Dcommander
Niners Engineering Corps
0
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Posted - 2017.02.25 20:06:54 -
[1380] - Quote
Jori McKie wrote:Update 30.05.2015: Patch Carnyx: Frequency of Burner Missions offered by level 4 Security agents has been lowered.
I've requested a mission from one of my level 4 agents 8 different times. He keeps offering nothing but Burner missions. |
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