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Xanture Edion
Exploding Camels Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:29:00 -
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Seeing that jump cool down timers can be in the years. For selling characters on the bazaar, will it be now necessary to include your jump cool down timer? Since if done wrong, this could literally make a character worthless as a capital pilot. |
Kun'ii Zenya
The Executives Executive Outcomes
21
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:29:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:I only use my cap for moving ships around so........ this doesnt bother me.
However, I can see the tears of hotdroppers and super cap pilots all around me. We needed a big nerf to super caps and this will do it!
Maybe it will when deploying takes longer and you are stuck sitting at your doing....nothing. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12344
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:30:00 -
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domino 8 wrote:Nazri al Mahdi wrote:The worst job in this game is nullsec logistics; it is tedious beyond any measure of fun. For proposing to make it 20x harder I will now pray each day for a volcano to wipe Iceland off the face of the earth. I agree, making the dullest part of the game more awful doesn't seem a good idea. I personally enjoyed my time in gsol. I would gladly return if asked. :) Sky Captain of Your Heart
Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn |
Sygma
Appetite 4 Destruction
284
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:30:00 -
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5 Light Years for a JF? You spend all that time trying to get people IN to 0.0 and now you want to reduce the range? INSANELY STUPID.
Hell, I would suggest make a JF 20 Light years. Whoever came up with this dumb ass idea needs a punch in the junk. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8400
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:30:00 -
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Blaqsunshine wrote:While you are at it, make it where I can unanchor my POS and fly it around and jump through gates as well.. Just sayin...
I support this as long as CCP makes a 10,000MN Microwarpdrive for you to fit to it.
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Theodoric Darkwind
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
308
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:30:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:This is awesome.
What a shame people can't adapt and instead just whine and complain.
Change is good. It's a broken system and you all know it. Sometimes change hurts.
Time to dust off the lowsec caps. \o/
I pay money to play this game. If CCP simply makes it that annoying to continue playing I will just spend my money on other games and when most of nullsec does this CCP will go out of business.
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
547
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:31:00 -
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On October 8th, 1871, O'Leary's cow caused the Great Chicago fire.
On October 1st, 2014, CCP caused the Great Null Sec Outrage. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2061
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:31:00 -
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CCP, ignore the whiners, stay the course!
Sincerely: the silent majority. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Eigenvalue
Suay Tii Suk Brave Collective
11
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:31:00 -
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Clolo wrote:Have you considered allowing caps to shed fatigue by jumping through gates? IE I have a 20 minute cool down until I can jump again. If I jump through 3 gates it drops it down to 5 minutes or some sort of formula.
I think it probably ought to be more like capitals get a gate jumping bounty paid out in isk - say 20% of the value of the ship per gate jumped. That way you'll on average break even on ship losses at gate camps. Of course you'll never actually get to a fight, but whatever. |
Lord TGR
11
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:On October 8th, 1871, O'Leary's cow caused the Great Chicago fire.
On October 1st, 2014, CCP caused the Great Null Sec Outrage. You mean NCdot/PL outrage. |
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Odin Viking
Furore Normannorum
1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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think CCP just got more players intrested, ALOT of ppl have already gone from eve due to the blue D. adn how boring it is.
i think allot of them are going to be back after this!
grate job ccp! |
Bert Oil
IX Legio Hispana Aquila Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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I hope this is just a bad joke!
Are you improving your accountnumbers by forcings the small corps and individual players to subscribe 3 times the cynochars they allready have? |
Rixx Javix
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
406
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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To: QUITTERS
Please feel free to contract me your stuff. I'll even come and get it anywhere in New Eden. Seriously.
PS: HTFU http://eveoganda.blogspot.com |
Sibius Aidon
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Finally! Great things on horizont for smaller groups.
- We are finally gonna have our nice little local brawls without fearing of 99% of New Eden
Learn to live form the space. Recruit Indy corps. Don't moan about the logistics. Your not supposed to wage war from your home to another region if its not adjecant. Deploy than attack.
Simple. local brawls with who? We in lowsec didn't blue half of EVE and made a deal with the other half. We got plenty to fight with.
Well when the game dies let us know who is still on that are willing ton fight.
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Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
50
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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Whats the point in cyno jammers now? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2804
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:32:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:congrats, you Just 'Malcanis Law'd' null sec and made things worse because who can afford to but new characters and PLEX for multiple character training, new guys or old players? Caps are not ships newbies should take any interest in, I don't see Malcanis Law to apply here. I didn't mean 'new to the game' newbies, I meant "new to low/null folks and groups".
Meh, they will manage if they really want to. And Malcanis was writing about improvements and this is frakking big nerf no matter how much rainbow propaganda spin doctors will throw at it.
At least that's how I always saw Malcanis Law. Maybe I'm wrong, I probably am as usual. Why am I keep posting in all those threads without big boy's tramp stamp on my back? Oh wait, I pay for it, that's why :) Invalid signature format |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
863
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:33:00 -
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Lady Cuno wrote:Nazri al Mahdi wrote:I will now pray each day for a volcano to wipe Iceland off the face of the earth. I Like
It needs to happen before November |
Capsups
Blitzkrieg. Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:33:00 -
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So with this one patch, CCP is going to kill off any logistics to null-sec effectively making it even more stagnant since nobody can get ships out there? Nobody wants to mine in null-sec, so where are we supposed to get the minerals from to build the ships that people need for PVP? Not to talk about larger quantities of T2 ships. I know that all my production is going to cease from next expansion atleast. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
861
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:33:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:CCP, ignore the whiners, stay the course!
Sincerely: the silent majority. cva will never again hold providence with these changes, incidentally
toodles |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1264
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:33:00 -
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Good timing CCP. I just bought my caps. DISCLAIMER : All of the above replies are not meant as any form of harassment. It's all SciFi. YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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TheButcherJohn
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
12
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:33:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:CCP, ignore the whiners, stay the course!
Sincerely: the silent majority.
Sincerely, an alliance with basically a renter mentality, because we refuse to ever leave provi.
ftfy |
Kazumii Shimizu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:34:00 -
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I feel a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of cyno alts suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2566
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:34:00 -
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Lord TGR wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:This is an amazing change and I think people are failing already to see the long term implications of what you're doing here today.
Change nothing (you dont need to effect Jump Clones since at best you can only use that to move every 19 hours) and ship it as is, dont cave to any whining about any of it.
You either use gates, or you pay the price to move through teleportation for any ship in EVE.
I expect a lot more roaming coming into our Eve. This isn't what you said the last time something like this was brought up on kugu. Funny, that.
Funny how this also addresses Sub Caps using bridges to cross EVE instantly, something you and yours didn't see as a problem that needed to be addressed
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Relaxis Lathar
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:34:00 -
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You realise that this is simply going to cause local stagnation instead? It's not going to solve the problem and it's going to create un-invadable sovs. |
ulililillia
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:34:00 -
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Theodoric Darkwind wrote:Zen Guerrilla wrote:This is awesome.
What a shame people can't adapt and instead just whine and complain.
Change is good. It's a broken system and you all know it. Sometimes change hurts.
Time to dust off the lowsec caps. \o/ I pay money to play this game. If CCP simply makes it that annoying to continue playing I will just spend my money on other games and when most of nullsec does this CCP will go out of business. What games, star citizen? ppppppppppppppppppppfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft |
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:35:00 -
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I would suggest looking at the warp speed of capital.
I never liked the reduction in warp speed of the larger ships to < 3.
It seemed counter to logic, big ship should mean more power for propulsion. If caps are going to be able to jump gates at least allow them to warp across the system in a meaningful way.
btw this thread needs suggestions and meaningful comments and less QQ. |
Gaizka Alud
Sinpire Viro Mors Non Est
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:35:00 -
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We can give CCP some credit for actually tackling the issue. We can give CCP some credit for being prepared to apply a heavy nerf to the issue they wish to tackle. We can give CCP more credit for putting it out with sufficient time to bash it around and come back with better ideas (let's hope).
But....this is the sort of proposal that only looks good on a whiteboard in a room full of coders.
Now we'll need a spreadsheet to calculate jump range and times? Come on CCP, you couldn't have made it more convoluted if you had tried (maybe you did try).
Whatever you end up doing, and I trust it will not be this, it should be: - easy to understand; - not too hard to incorporate into plans/tactics - reasonably accesible to most players.
For many people (not that there are that many of us left), EVE is a few hours after a long day of real life. The changes you make should encourage bored and lapsed players to become more active again. It would be truly enlightening to hear a decent argument for why anyone thinks this might do that.
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Lord TGR
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:36:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Lord TGR wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:This is an amazing change and I think people are failing already to see the long term implications of what you're doing here today.
Change nothing (you dont need to effect Jump Clones since at best you can only use that to move every 19 hours) and ship it as is, dont cave to any whining about any of it.
You either use gates, or you pay the price to move through teleportation for any ship in EVE.
I expect a lot more roaming coming into our Eve. This isn't what you said the last time something like this was brought up on kugu. Funny, that. Funny how this also addresses Sub Caps using bridges to cross EVE instantly, something you and yours didn't see as a problem that needed to be addressed Watch as we give absolutely no fucks, until the sov system changes to something which doesn't give us a week's response time. |
Medalyn Isis
Rosewood Productions Stain Confederation
331
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:36:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Can supers use gates after this change? Yes.
Does this make it too difficult for new pilots to get out into 0.0? Yes, it probably does. We are going to look at this tomorrow to try and make this easier.
Is the balance for Black Ops final? No. Please give feedback!
The math about the minimum jump timer is inconsistent in the blog, right? Yes, it is, I'll fix it as soon as I have time, thread's moving too fast atm!
Very large fatigue values will take a loooong time to decay, is this too much? Possibly yes, we'll have a look at this. CCP Greyscale = Best Dev. This is an awesome change, thank you for being bold in these changes, and also for the great Industry changes. I can't wait to see what else you have in store for Null Sov in future.
Also I don't see why it is too difficult for new pilots to get into 0.0, they just need a wormhole or to use an interceptor, then the alliance should provide everything else they need in 0.0 space for them. |
TheButcherJohn
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
12
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Posted - 2014.10.01 19:36:00 -
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Ncc 1709 wrote:Whats the point in cyno jammers now?
The point now, is that you can screw someone's route, forcing them to wait another thousand irl years to get to their destination. So, they seem pretty overpowered if you can take the right system, since with these distance changes, going around cynojammed systems is going to be a btich. |
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