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Nolan Kotulan 59	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:43:09 - [601] - Quote Remove these damn corner brackets, I beg you, again and again and again... Give us the option to disable dynamic adaptative window transparency... The new character selection screen is ugly (but it doesn't really matter)... This new UI is a good thing finally, and you improved it well since firt release on SiSi, so nice work! But, please: Remove these damn corner brackets, I beg you, again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again!!!
R17a Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities 15	Posted - 2014.12.09 18:22:23 - [602] - Quote ***** CCP! RETURN PLS BACK OLD INTERFACE! New UI it's wery ***** CRAP!
Sadew42 Empire of the Forsaken Gentlemen's.Club 1	Posted - 2014.12.09 18:27:04 - [603] - Quote -NEOCOM and Other Icons While the uniformity seems nice, it causes more trouble than it's worth by far. It takes significantly more effort to distinguish icons from each other, and in the five minutes I played before having to go to work I misclicked at least as many times. Please bring back the old NEOCOM icons, or give us an option for that, or at the very least color the icons. -Window Transparaency While it was very jarring at first, this change wasn't as bad as I expected it to be and was very good (especially on a darker theme than Caldari). While I plan on making use of it, I do feel that people who are doing multiple-window heavy tasks would appreciate being able to set a more solid background without reducing post-processing, and I would like for the option of a kind of reverse "pin" so that I can set a window as always solid, like when clicking on it. This way having multiple chat channels open is made much easier, because with the current settings it is difficult to read corp chat and intel at the same time. Overall, this was a positive change. tl;dr Window transparency is fine, could be tweaked. Icons are bad, need to be reverted or at least colored.
Riele Sancel Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:46:22 - [604] - Quote I just started this game a few days ago and gotta say I love it so far. The one thing I don't like is that the Icons, which were much easier to distinguish from each other, were replaced. Now instead of colorful Icons there are drab and boring icons. Is there a way to revert the Icons back? If not, I would definitely like to see the old icons back.
John Lawyer Gallente Rebels Inc. Villore Accords 20	Posted - 2014.12.09 21:41:34 - [605] - Quote I played EVE with my own customized colour scheme for years (it was in red colours - similar to Blood Raiders or Nebula). Thing is I had windows background colour red too - now I can only have tabs and buttons in red colour. But window background is BLACK - which is bad for me - I want it RED. So, my proposition - to provide customization tools for UI (colour aspect) - previous flexibility was OK. Thanks! P.S.: and btw, these corner brackets - why? what is the purpose of them? they are quite annoying as for me.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 2613	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:22:48 - [606] - Quote Dear CCP, I love you guys but the dynamic window brightness idea seemed cool (even to me) but ultimately failed. Everyone I spoke to either: - Doesn't even notice it (I envy them) - Hates it dearly (like me, because it's distracting, it's useful maybe 5% of the time if you're in space, useless and annoying the other 95%, 100% useless imho if you're docked) So please just take away a feature that nobody seems to like and many absolutely hate. At the very least, make it opt in. Please. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Max Deveron Deveron Shipyards and Technology 101	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:27:07 - [607] - Quote I have a question..... Is this a PC game or a freaking Xbox/Playstation Game????? Seriously CCP, this UI looks like crap.....some of it is good but the pasted boring crap icons is rubbish. Also what happened to the idea we could customize our screens for color layouts? Its stupid for removal of at leas two items imo in particular.....and it is IRESPONSIBLE. If i wanted to play a consol game with cheap icons and lack of graphic modulation i would go buy a console system to play with and be bored playing those games.
Sanyo Santiago Homicidal Nomads 4	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:31:02 - [608] - Quote helana Tsero wrote: From the Blog 'Simple theme selection will be replacing the old RGB sliders and dropdowns.' DO NOT WANT ! let the players customize the colours/transparency of the UI. The current RGB and transparency sliders are great. DO NOT REMOVE THEM ! I like my customised colour scheme. Removing choice is BAD. Please CCP, can we have the RGB sliders back? Most of the themes are too dark for my liking.
Algathas Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad. 49	Posted - 2014.12.10 04:57:40 - [609] - Quote At first it took a little getting used to, but I chose the "Dark Matter" theme which was closest to what I used to use. - I like the window blur. Now I can stack my overview over the local chat and the blur gets rid of the chat so I can just see the overview and the list of people in local, saving space (or my eyes since I would previously just see the chat through the overview). - I like the smaller icons for the station menu allowing it to take up less space. - I like that the "selected item" menu has higher contrast now for the options that you are able to use. - The system name and route do not show through windows. Not sure if that's a bug or if it is intended.
Com Evestess Blue Lunar Horizons Shadow Division 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 05:57:51 - [610] - Quote Hello, Sorry for the wall of text by the way... I appreciate the changes in Rhea, including to the UI. The amount of effort needed to run multiple instances of Eve is greatly reduced, thank you very much for that. One of the most effective visuals showing CCP is working to improve the game for a long time. I love the visual rendering, job well done. The new map is amazing, again, thank you. Now, back to the UI. I love the efficiency, I hate the color, or lack there of. I run up to thirteen different accounts at any, and most given points of time. I color coded each toon, so when switching I could distinguish quickly between them. That said, of the new colors I am able to choose from, I simply can not do this anymore. There are twenty-one colors in the new system to choose from. One that does not make me sick immediately. Even that last one (Darkmatter) annoys me to no end. Having all my toons set to it makes running more than one instance insanely difficult. I have looked at the UI, the longer I try and use it the more my head hurts. I understand the point, make it easier to use and more user friendly and all. The task bar (the thingy on the left with all the buttons that's transparent) Is locked in transparency. The color chooses are limited and terrible, the buttons will take serious getting used to after almost eleven years. The overview is weird now, the select buttons are much better though, very happy about that. Rhea, without the UI, is great. I have no issues. The UI needs to have the sliders back and the task bar needs toggled transparency. I am sick of people saying, oh you will get used to it. I appreciate the effort to improve it but when it makes me physically I'll to play now, that simply sucks. This is the only game I can stand to play for any great length of time, and I would hate to have to stop over such a, ridiculous issue. Thank you for your time, I hope this gets, improved, quickly. Com
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 17172	Posted - 2014.12.10 06:05:40 - [611] - Quote Get your almost-opaque black theme windows back. I play on a laptop, so real estate is limited. I like having a relatively dark interface because it's what my eyes will tolerate on my laptop screen in most lighting conditions, and I like to somewhat be able to see through my windows to catch the spaceship action under them. Switch to "Dark Matter" theme Turn off blur. This will unlock the transparency slider just above it. Turn your transparency lower than 100 to get more opaque on your windows back Here's a picture with the 3 steps. See if that helps.. Friendship is the best ship. Sabriz for CSM go go go
Orez Lohengramm Formosa Research Center Fraternity. 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 07:40:02 - [612] - Quote the new ui is fine the new login is fine the new icon is fine BUT please bring back the custom color theme and chat cant really blink as before please bring them back please compare SOE and Dark matter theme u can tell the blink difference and i hate green i dun know why soe got a green back ground color :/
Samsara Toldya Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 166	Posted - 2014.12.10 09:03:25 - [613] - Quote So... I gave it a try, downloaded Rhea and launched the game... Unfortunately I had a Stratios active and hit ESC to enter the menu with default settings... Now I had white letters in front of a blurry white Stratios. Sorry for being harsh, but that is a no-go. White text on white background. If I am supposed to switch to a Fenrir just to read the ESC menu - please seed those ships to every station I enter. Anyway, I managed to disable blur and have a solid background... It's nice to have color themes... but why do ALL OF THEM need to have pure black / close to pure black backgrounds? Take this forum as an example, we do have white letters on a solid grey background. Enough contrast to make it easy to read but no harsh black/white contrast. Ingame however I have to read text on maximum contrast... One could argue that a forum is designed to read huge amounts of text while the ingame chat is only some kind of ****-gif-link libary... but some of us would like to use the chat for written communications (hard to believe, I know). Had to close chats within 15 minutes. Am I wrong when I say: UI doesn't mean usability, but somehow those two thing should be related?
Feuer Frei Solar Guards. SOLAR FLEET 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 09:38:52 - [614] - Quote new icons just crap as well as the new color themes please shoot the designer xD
Saturday Beerun Lost Ark Enterprises 8	Posted - 2014.12.10 09:47:12 - [615] - Quote Bland ugly boring.Hard to see some windows.Lack of customisation.Gets reduced every release.why why why ??? I can't think of anything to like at all.Improvements they aint!It is nothing less than change for changes sake.
Mirija Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 8	Posted - 2014.12.10 11:34:32 - [616] - Quote fckng boring monocrom UI, that causes depression and headache (+ those ugly uninspiring icons)
Niskin League of the Lost 134	Posted - 2014.12.10 13:54:19 - [617] - Quote Love the new UI, it's fast and responsive. You don't have to play waiting games with the windows anymore. If I launch planet view I can close the planets window as it's loading, whereas before I had to wait until the planet loaded because that window wouldn't take input until it did. And the Scan button in the D-scan window gives visual feedback when you click it now, or at least more obvious visual feedback. So thanks for that! It's Dark In Here - The Lonely Wormhole Blog Remember kiddies: the best ship in Eve is Friendship. -MooMooDachshundCow
Jim Anycrickit University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 14:51:36 - [618] - Quote Really like the look but i would love to see an option to change the color of the active route gate/station/etc in the overview from yellow to something else. Sometimes it is hard to see due to the background or my eyes can't pick it up easily.
Drakprime Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:55:10 - [619] - Quote Yes. I too want more/better control back for the theme & colors. They all look the same right now. Eyes do not like it. The UI icons before the patch needed help in some cases, now some need even more help. But what do I know, I just use the tool tips... Now for a more annoying problem: https://i.imgur.com/3im5xtD.jpg This is a `window` that I can only move or change the width of. I can only restore that window by re selecting that function from the EVE menu/hot-key. The only place I can seem to click on this 'window' are the edges, and that only lets me move it, or maybe resize the width. Clicking in the space/edges once/double left/right/middle or with shift/ctl/alt didn't change it (may have missed some combination). Otherwise double clicking in the space of the frame opens the ship inventory (if docked).
Faren Shalni Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 80	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:17:43 - [620] - Quote Not sure if thats already been covered (feel free to point it out if it has) but Is anyone else getting a massive FPS drop when using the auto hide feature of the neocom with the new UI? I go from a stable 60fps to ~35fps during the time it slide either into view or out of view One extra note. Disappointed that the match theme to current ship doesn't include the Faction's. I get into a Bhaalgorn and still get the Amarr theme :( So Much Space
Red Ora Hedion University Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:29:31 - [621] - Quote My blood is boiling - here's why: 1. The windows ''pin - 'minimize' - x' and the settings 'wheel icon' are TOO DAMN FAINT - TOO FAINT - MY EYES HURT ! - yes they light up on mouse over, but I have to find them first to do that ! 2. Just 3 friggin arrows left & right to enter the station and undock into the exciting EVE space? - Make a really nice & big, exciting (animated) icon that displays the captains quarters entrance or something similar ! - A nice, maybe even animated space door to undock - 2 huge mustard arrows? REALLY ? 3. The ship comparison tool does not display the 'Warp Speed" column for any ship - keeps getting overlooked ! 4. The new map one more time - the hair lines are too small and too faint, but I don't really care about the map any more - there's DOTLAN you know... 4. You already know that the character screen goes blank on moving or resizing ! 5. There is a ton of apparel that cannot be bought and is simply NOT available. WHY? Add it to the store already !
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 21	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:59:25 - [622] - Quote The new UI causes me fps drops whenever I switch tabs or do any activity that involves a window, such as hacking.
Halcyon Ember Repracor Industries 21	Posted - 2014.12.10 18:10:20 - [623] - Quote Also, doing anything with a window stops all the chat tabs from blinking, which is irritating. The lag makes the hacking game unbearable, as every single click causes lag. Also the way the borders work means there are gaps between all the windows, which looks awful, to be honest. Can I have a "Use old UI" Check box, please?"
Greygal Redemption Road Affirmative. 278	Posted - 2014.12.10 18:18:59 - [624] - Quote Posted this originally in the Feedback thread, was told I should post this here: There are no buttons on the Selected Items window anymore, or at least, none that I can see! You have to select something on the overview, then the relevant icons are highlighted (nice and crisp white), but until you select something, you can't actually see any of the icons! I could write a wall of text about how much this greatly interferes with gameplay and usability, if you want me to... This is how the Selected Items window looks to me right now - this is using Carbon theme, no transparency, blur off: http://i.gyazo.com/e06171ad9d96d239a0c481948dc094dd.png Needless to say, that's suboptimal ... Example: I want to change my ship's default orbit. I have to select something to orbit FIRST, then I can see the orbit button to right-click on it and change default orbit. Or I can blindly and randomly hover my mouse across the selected items window until I find the correct button via tooltip... I can hear myself already saying to a fleet of newbies that I'm taking out on their first roam: "Okay everyone, I need you to set your default orbit to 7000. Right-click the orbit button..." "What orbit button?" "Oh just hover your mouse around pressing right-click till you find it..." "Nothing says it's an orbit button..." "Oops that's right, it'll say something like set default orbit..." "Um, all I see is something that says set default range?" "No, that's the one to set your default keep-at-range distance." "What's keep-at-range?" "It keeps you um, I mean, ugh, just a sec (warp fleet to gate) Okay everyone, just click on the gate. You will see the orbit button now. Right click that and set default orbit to 7000." "Okay, why didn't you just do it that way before?" "Because I didn't want us sitting on a gate in case of ... gate flash! local spike! All buttons available should always be visible, even if their associated action is not currently available. The only way to know what potential actions exist. All buttons were previously visible. The ones available were highlighted, and the ones not available were dimmed, but all were visible, clear even to these old eyes. Please fix, asap. Thank you! GG What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. Free weekly public roams & monthly NewBro new player roams! Visit Redemption Road or join mailing list REDEMPTION ROAMS for information
DJ Xaphod Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.12.10 19:48:41 - [625] - Quote I'm glad that I don't suffer from the same issues some have had relating to the new UI, but I really do sympathise with those who are finding it makes them nauseous or ill. I do find the dynamic transparency a little distracting, though thankfully it's not causing me problems. I think there should be an option to change the speed of the shift (down to an instant change) and an option to remove it entirely. I think I've noticed what I can only determine as a bug, in that if you overlay two windows and pin the foremost one so it goes more transparent, the window behind also becomes more transparent as well, rather than the transparency stacking as would be expected. This removes the utility of pinning windows somewhat because it is almost impossible to see the content of the window behind. I am glad that the content of the rear window doesn't get blurred though, I was worrying that might happen. http://imgur.com/zRyKjFK At least with the camera-shift on jump (which I agree should be optional) people can look away for those few seconds. The only option for people affected by this seems to be to just not play. Gëí>Gëí Radio, Bringing Music to the Masses. http://eve-radio.com I play Rock & Metal Monday Nights 2200 GameTime
Aratnor Ancient Council 0	Posted - 2014.12.10 20:05:34 - [626] - Quote i personally hate this news UI at leest make it optional to use the old or "knew" one
warbds Stoli Holdings 3	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:25:48 - [627] - Quote I don't mind the new options , I don't mind changes.(I'm a tester for my profession) I do mind real life headaches. Can't focus right with my eyes and thats why I get those. Do you have a solution so I can keep playing? If not tell me I will evacuate my stuff out of harms way and leave till you have a solution. The old gui contrast color option would be fine with all the new stuff like a very nice map. I don't have this in any other game but this one. Please offer me a solution! I want to play my favorite game again
Rastafarian God 75	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:19:02 - [628] - Quote When you set the UI theme to match active ship, the UI chooses the wrong theme when in ORE ships. Instead of using the Yellow and Grey ORE theme, it uses the Dark Matter theme. This might be a small thing, but I rather enjoy having an overview that matches the ships automatically and noticed this right away. As for the new icons, I'm having a hell of a time memorizing them. Its severely hindering the game some times. But i'll adapt with time. As for the person that said the buttons where gone in the selected item box, they are still there darkened out like they where before. They are much harder to see then before however and you might need to adjust some settings.
Daisy Warkorr Area 51 Assassins 1	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:45:26 - [629] - Quote Several things worth mention here:- The new colour schemes are arbitrary and look like they were designed by a colour-blind kid with ADHD. They are not as customiseable and the old schemes were better and easier on the eyes. The old sidebar/Neocom graphics were much better than these tired-looking new monochrome icons which look crap in comparison and are not as easily recogniseable. The new map is great.
Mara Kell Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore 44	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:29:42 - [630] - Quote Ok beside the obvious problems with the new UI i have found many many small glitched which do not follow the quality standards we are used to from Eve. The first thing that struck me was that something is weird with selecting ships, especially when selecting the active ship. If you look closely you can see that the highlighting box is not centered vertically and has a wrong pixel size. It becomes especially obvious when you compare it to the active ship box. http://i.imgur.com/7IlzmjN.png

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