Not really, because to most people AUR is worthless, it would only become worth something if it were tied to game time.

If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be?

CCP wants em nice and low. But it no workey.

Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.

They usually drop after an update, and return or spike a couple weeks later.

If CCP were to remove PLEX, and use AUR for buying game time, I'm sure they would also replace every PLEX in the game with 3500 AUR. PLEX would never be a worthless pixel item, they would just go away, and your inflation hedge would become AUR.

But AUR has no inherent value in game. The move to AUR removes PLEX as a place to store ISK, instead it would be a place to store AUR which would have it's own conversion to ISK based on what players would pay.

So in essence, Plex would get competition from AUR if one could use AUR for game services too. Just moves Plex out of in game markets and on to an out of game market where it belongs.

Isn't the only way to get AUR is by converting PLEX?

They usually drop after an update, and return or spike a couple weeks later.

I'm sure they would also replace every PLEX in the game with 3500 AUR.

Did you actually checked the link I posted? PLEX value drops over last 90 days and keep going that way. No real spikes.

I did not check your link. I have made the majority of my wealth from plex flipping, including riding the waves the follow a patch, and I have my own personal experience and wallet to prove my statement for me, I'm not really interested if you disagree with me or mot because I know my investment practices in plex and plex behavior have proven correct. Prices are high before a patch (when I sell to have the liquid needed for...), quickly plummet a few weeks after a patch (when I buy), supply is choked and briefly prices spike (when I sell), and then normalize to just before patch prices and continue on with their downward trend.

You can say that all you want to, but evidence from API is to the contrary. Other than the summer slow rise there has been negative pressure on plex for a year. No spikes, no dips from patches. Historically before that there are spikes AT patch dates and after from returning players, but not before and certainly no crashes after a patch.

Did you actually checked the link I posted? PLEX value drops over last 90 days and keep going that way. No real spikes.



I am not so sure about "every PLEX". Quota for conversion can be big, yes, but it is still qouta. Even if CCP will agree to allow you convert 100 PLEX as of now, there still be ppl with larger PLEX count. And quota is still under concideration. It can be even lower to make more PLEX speculators rage quit.

Having a "quota" would be like replacing $1000 bills with $1000 bills, but only for the first 100 bills.

It would just not be acceptable.

The only way to stop PLEX speculation is to peg it to a specific isk value, say 500 million isk. No matter what region you are in PLEX is the same value on the market

The only way to stop PLEX speculation is to peg it to a specific isk value, say 500 million isk. No matter what region you are in PLEX is the same value on the market

PLEX speculators do not create any usefull game content but rather abuse feature, that was intended solely for quick ISK injection / possibility to play for free. So there will be no surprise if CCP decides to get rid of those via PLEX conversion quota? PLEX speculators rage quite, game economy stabilize, CCP will get 20 euro for one replaced megatrone navy issue instead of 10 as it was around new year.

The only way to stop PLEX speculation is to peg it to a specific isk value, say 500 million isk. No matter what region you are in PLEX is the same value on the market

We have enough economy rigging in RL.

Let's allow a true, capitalistic economy exist, at least in a fictional game, shall we?

The claim was made that CCP was looking at ending it and changing buying PLEX directly with AUR. I was stating that I do not* understand how they expect to eliminate speculation without a forced market price peg.

Take plex off the in game market and the station games end. Make plex's only use directly applying game time. Now plex can only be converted to AUR, which can then be used for various things. This provides a buffer to Plex, but also makes it far more risky to horde Plex because getting stuck with a lot of AUR would not have the same benefits of being stuck with a bunch of Isk.

There is 12 sell orders in Jita with price under 800 milions atm. And median price keep falling even quicker. PLEX price is droping, several months in a raw already, despite all smart talks about "economy implosion". Simply because PLEX is bound to real money. It is not some virtual pixel item, it is a bit more, than part of Eve economy. CCP loses money on high PLEX price and they want their money back.

There is 12 sell orders in Jita with price under 800 milions atm. And median price keep falling even quicker. PLEX price is droping, several months in a raw already, despite all smart talks about "economy implosion". Simply because PLEX is bound to real money. It is not some virtual pixel item, it is a bit more, than part of Eve economy. CCP loses money on high PLEX price and they want their money back.

The question would then be at what level is there "equilibrium"?