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Makhpella
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
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Posted - 2014.12.30 12:03:24 -
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Can someone tell me what is Toad trying to say? I cant comprehend it. Should I sell my freighter full of plex or should I undock it?
btw: It is Charon with T2 cargohold expanders. |
Toad The Hitchhiker
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.12.30 13:49:12 -
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Makhpella wrote:Can someone tell me what is Toad trying to say? I cant comprehend it. Should I sell my freighter full of plex or should I undock it?
btw: It is Charon with T2 cargohold expanders.
lol, Orbit Jita IV-4 until the value goes down to make the killmail less hilarious. |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
241
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Posted - 2014.12.30 14:18:10 -
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Makhpella wrote:Can someone tell me what is Toad trying to say? I cant comprehend it. Should I sell my freighter full of plex or should I undock it?
btw: It is Charon with T2 cargohold expanders. Autopilot it through Uedama 10 times a week.
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
264
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Posted - 2014.12.30 15:32:45 -
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Makhpella wrote:Can someone tell me what is Toad trying to say? I cant comprehend it. Should I sell my freighter full of plex or should I undock it?
btw: It is Charon with T2 cargohold expanders.
be careful with the contract, not to miss any zeros *wink* *wink* |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
272
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Posted - 2014.12.31 07:31:20 -
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toad was right about them going down again |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2014.12.31 12:55:40 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again
Seems like his detractors have a Frog in their throat...
Sorry I had to |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.31 14:17:47 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
272
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:30:10 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P
this thread blows me away :| kind of typifies the recent plex sale thingy.
Also on the ISboxer thing, i saw a dude in jita with ~50 abbadons shooting the statue, was an obs multiboxer.
i never realised how many ppl actually multibox using that thing untill i saw that.
that 1 guy alone, is 50 plex a month of demand gone. will we see less "plex sales" now? who knows....
thread belongs to toad tho, sorry for interupting your worship
*bows*
*nervously walks out* |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:03:13 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P this thread blows me away :| kind of typifies the recent plex sale thingy. Also on the ISboxer thing, i saw a dude in jita with ~50 abbadons shooting the statue, was an obs multiboxer. i never realised how many ppl actually multibox using that thing untill i saw that. that 1 guy alone, is 50 plex a month of demand gone. will we see less "plex sales" now? who knows.... thread belongs to toad tho, sorry for interupting your worship *bows* *nervously walks out*
I like to think that the guy in the link has ventured onto the forums for the first time and is afraid of being rolled by the big boys. Or he has managed to allready have spent the ISKies by making a deal with nefarious back alley types only to see the value of PLEX drop and now he is short... And the people who loaned the money up front are calling |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
274
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Posted - 2015.01.01 07:09:28 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P
buy orders in jita are 750 atm.
wowsers |
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
274
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Posted - 2015.01.01 09:13:35 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P buy orders in jita are 750 atm. wowsers
now at 788 / 773
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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
182
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Posted - 2015.01.01 10:32:38 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P buy orders in jita are 750 atm. wowsers now at 788 / 773 Prices usually hit a high around Thursday/Friday...
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.01 12:54:52 -
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Koniforous wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:toad was right about them going down again Now if only we can see them drop into the 700-750 range, then we'll be witnessing a quite historical event in the PLEX pricing history :P buy orders in jita are 750 atm. wowsers now at 788 / 773 Prices usually hit a high around Thursday/Friday...
True or not it would appear as if someone or some group of people do not want the price to fall to 750. Every time Jita flirts with that they scoop up large market shares and relist higher. I am going to try and get some alt names later.
But this is not sustainable for long. There is too much plex on the market and not enough sensible buy orders. 100 plex is all that stands between current price and 750. Beyond 750 there is little floor. |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
274
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Posted - 2015.01.01 13:00:54 -
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alt names?
why does that matter, w/e they are doing is working tbh, once the sale is over, variables change again.
hows the weather in murica mr madoff it actually made the news here that its snowing in las vegas o_O |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
2
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Posted - 2015.01.01 13:06:59 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:alt names?
why does that matter, w/e they are doing is working tbh, once the sale is over, variables change again.
hows the weather in murica mr madoff it actually made the news here that its snowing in las vegas o_O
Oh I don't really care all that much. Still waiting for Toady to come in raging about something. I don't even have any plex stocked right now, I sold it all to buy Melted Nano Ribbons (jk)
I don't think the sale ending will effect things much. There is a lot of activity on the character market and those are consuming a bit of plex atm. I would also guess that our player numbers are going to start to be noticeably smaller soon. Time will tell.
... Where Bernie Madoff is it is always 22c and sunny with a slight breeze when the cell door opens. |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
278
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Posted - 2015.01.02 06:22:49 -
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CCP PLEX SALE IS OVER
PANIC GUYS! |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
243
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:54:13 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:CCP PLEX SALE IS OVER
PANIC GUYS!
SELL SELL SELL! BUY BUY BUY!
Prices up over 800 million again. |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:02:14 -
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weird market this one, i stay away from it, far too many big boys in it, im only a tadpole, not a full fledge toad. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:08:02 -
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Yeah I don't know if Toad was on to something or not. All of the rest of Eve the Plex seems to be headed down, but in Jita it seems to be fighting itself like someone I losing money to deliberately prop it up. I don't know, I think its too rich for my blood. I already have enough plex to fund until I am eligible for a retirement home. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3049
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Posted - 2015.01.05 21:51:25 -
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A big wildcard is the EULA change, the banning of multicasters. I figure that will cause 4 waves of PLEX demand reduction.
1) This is already over. Players who suspend most or all their accounts due to the change in the EULA.
2) Players who think they can get away with it. They will drop some or all accounts once CCP starts handing out bans. It is not clear if CCP has handed out any bans yet. There have been no posts about it happening.
3) Players who figure they can keep going with all their accounts, only to find they just turned a game into something more like work. Some will actually keep going, others will drop some or all of their accounts.
4) There use to be a continual influx of new players using multicasting, propping up PLEX demand. This will now cease.
I figure it will take a few months for all these effects to sort themselves out. But I'm not sure of the total magnitude they have on the PLEX price. It could be big, or it could get lost in the normal market variability.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
8
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:12:35 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:A big wildcard is the EULA change, the banning of multicasters. I figure that will cause 4 waves of PLEX demand reduction.
1) This is already over. Players who suspend most or all their accounts due to the change in the EULA.
2) Players who think they can get away with it. They will drop some or all accounts once CCP starts handing out bans. It is not clear if CCP has handed out any bans yet. There have been no posts about it happening.
3) Players who figure they can keep going with all their accounts, only to find they just turned a game into something more like work. Some will actually keep going, others will drop some or all of their accounts.
4) There use to be a continual influx of new players using multicasting, propping up PLEX demand. This will now cease.
I figure it will take a few months for all these effects to sort themselves out. But I'm not sure of the total magnitude they have on the PLEX price. It could be big, or it could get lost in the normal market variability.
I agree with 2 through 4 wholeheartedly.
People will get banned as they think CCP won't notice or be able to tell. Also I see lots of false positive bans to this "round robin" method on other forums. I also see people giving up trying to make it work.
#4 especially, see www.eve-offline.net and check out the new character joins in the last 6 months. Other than the week of the expansion, the new character builds were up sharply after isboxer videos were made in the early summer. I know it was around much earlier, but popularity didn't start until this year. After the announcement to ban, new character builds drop (except during expansion week).
#1 I don't think we have seen yet. These guys had to plex their account one last time to sell on the forums and they probably used plex to make the transaction. We have yet to see all the characters sell, there is still a lot on the forums and some holding on until a later date (due to decreased SP/Isk currently).
But more than all of that, the population has been decreasing steadily since 2013 as Frog boy pointed out earlier. That is having a hard impact on demand. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
485
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:57:19 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:#4 especially, see www.eve-offline.net and check out the new character joins in the last 6 months. Other than the week of the expansion, the new character builds were up sharply after isboxer videos were made in the early summer. I know it was around much earlier, but popularity didn't start until this year. After the announcement to ban, new character builds drop (except during expansion week).
What ISBoxer videos were those? OAre you sure the spikes in new characters weren't due to some of the big fights we've had, expansions or the "This is EVE" trailer?
The biggest spike in 2014 (~2014/01/30) is undoubtedly due to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
8
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Posted - 2015.01.06 06:15:10 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:#4 especially, see www.eve-offline.net and check out the new character joins in the last 6 months. Other than the week of the expansion, the new character builds were up sharply after isboxer videos were made in the early summer. I know it was around much earlier, but popularity didn't start until this year. After the announcement to ban, new character builds drop (except during expansion week). What ISBoxer videos were those? Are you sure the spikes in new characters weren't due to some of the big fights we've had, expansions or the "This is EVE" trailer? The biggest spike in 2014 (~2014/01/30) is undoubtedly due to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB Vincent Athena wrote:4) There use to be a continual influx of new players using multicasting, propping up PLEX demand. This will now cease. It's pretty much a fact that people decided to start using multicasting software, but there were surely others who decided to stop. Just like with people playing EVE.
I think you are confusing player online number spikes and new player creation spikes. Please re-view the stats and understand the difference. A single fleet fight isn't going to give cause to new account creation. The expansions might, and I credit those. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
487
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Posted - 2015.01.06 09:45:36 -
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I'm not confusing anything, look for yourself. It's a widely known phenomenon that HUGE battles in EVE get quite of a bit media coverage outside of our own community which attracts LOTS of new players. B-R5RB has a Wikipedia article for globs sake . I'm pretty sure a dev commented on it while the jump changes were being discussed which is a likely factor for the creation of the "This is EVE" trailer which had a similar, albeit lesser, effect.
So show me these massively popular ISBoxer videos that caused a spike in new character creations, because I don't buy that for a second.
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
299
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:40:58 -
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Plex price debates for dummies:
player 1 " how long is a piece of string " player 2 " about this long UP " player 3 " about this long DOWN " player 1 " I don't believe you " sperg ensues....
Meamwhile.....
CCP 1 " lets dunk plex, **** it why not, ahh 10% sale, sound good for a virtual item? " CCP 2 " heh why not, the xmas bonuses won't pay for themselves "
player 3 " I was right ..... " player 2 " no you weren't "
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Nemah Xadi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:24:35 -
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Even something like the broadcasting ban only caused a temporary dip, and it didn't even go that far. It's slowly working its way back towards 1b again.
My accounts expire in 2 weeks so at least I won't be contributing.
Save Nemah!
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Signal11th
1591
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:29:18 -
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Nemah Xadi wrote:Even something like the broadcasting ban only caused a temporary dip, and it didn't even go that far. It's slowly working its way back towards 1b again.
My accounts expire in 2 weeks so at least I won't be contributing.
As it was always going to......You can't use plex then complain about always increasing prices. (not you personally just people in general)
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
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Nemah Xadi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:08:00 -
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You can't? Really now? I had no idea...
Save Nemah!
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Signal11th
1592
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:12:06 -
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Nemah Xadi wrote:You can't? Really now? I had no idea...
Then why post saying your accounts are going to expire...it's like asking someone to kick you in the nads and then complaining when they do it.
Far as I'm concerned anyone who relies on PLEX to run their accounts just can't complain about the price.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
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Nemah Xadi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:17:06 -
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But I'm not relying on it anymore, I'm leaving, so that means I can complain about it... right?
Save Nemah!
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