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Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11285	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:35:26 - [571] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: It's not being removed, are you illiterate? It is being removed. Or did you miss the update from CCP Masterplan? It has a 24 hour timer, there is zero chance of it ever being activated by stealth. Quote: You know what exploit I was talking about, your alliance were abusing it to no end, and you pretended, like you are now pretending to be illiterate, that you have no idea what everyone is talking about. Docking is not an exploit, and Lords is not Marmite, whom you were screaming about. At least learn to tell the difference, the alliance logos aren't even close to same. But then hey, I don't expect honesty from the guy who claims to not hate PvP, but has argued for the neutering or outright removal of literally every form of it that exists in the game besides duelling. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Basil Pupkin Why So Platypus 105	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:35:42 - [572] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: But there is no such bar in ganking, grief deccing, and awoxing. because it requires interacting with other players which is a variable which may as well be a random number generator. you can't compare an activity where the outcome is HIGHLY variable, to an activity where there are 0 unknown variables. Ummm.... what? The outcome of ganking is variable? No. The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. What are the variables here? All of those are free bacon. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
Aiyshimin Shiva Furnace 352	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:36:00 - [573] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Aiyshimin wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Aiyshimin wrote: Dave Stark wrote: because botting is illegal, and balancing issues. neither of those apply to awoxing. Of course it's a balancing issue. Anyway, awoxing will be gone so hope you carebears find some other ways to get your kicks. sure there's a balancing issue with awoxing - it's now neutral logi works not the fact that you can shoot corp members. If you couldn't shoot corp members, you couldn't use a neutral logi, so this is the fix. Now your neutral logi shares your criminal flag. So easiest fix was to remove intra-corp aggression, since removing it had no downsides or ill side effects. no, you haven't fixed anything there. sorry. True, I didn't, it was CCP.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2557	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:38:55 - [574] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of ganking is variable? No. The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. What are the variables here? All of those are free bacon. You're either doing this intentionally, or you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If you're being for realsies, then I'm positively-sure that you've never even attempted to do any of those three things, much less succeeded at one of them. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11285	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:39:42 - [575] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of ganking is variable? No. The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. What are the variables here? All of those are free bacon. You're either doing this intentionally, or you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If you're being for realsies, then I'm positively-sure that you've never even attempted to do any of those three things, much less succeeded at one of them. He's serious, that's the worst part. I didn't used to think people like this actually existed. Go through his post history if you don't believe me. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Basil Pupkin Why So Platypus 105	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:39:58 - [576] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: It's not being removed, are you illiterate? It is being removed. Or did you miss the update from CCP Masterplan? It has a 24 hour timer, there is zero chance of it ever being activated by stealth. Quote: You know what exploit I was talking about, your alliance were abusing it to no end, and you pretended, like you are now pretending to be illiterate, that you have no idea what everyone is talking about. Docking is not an exploit, and Lords is not Marmite, whom you were screaming about. At least learn to tell the difference, the alliance logos aren't even close to same. But then hey, I don't expect honesty from the guy who claims to not hate PvP, but has argued for the neutering or outright removal of literally every form of it that exists in the game besides duelling. It is not being removed, or did you miss this entire thread? You can still awox smartly baiting in lowsec. In your own corp it's still free awox. You can still bait saying you throw fleet invite and throw a duel one. There are a ton of ways to awox without it being dumb mode such as now. So it's not being removed, only the stupid part of it is getting a well-deserved nerfbat. And I were talking about the devils, aka #1 hisec chickens. Your alliance is worse than marmites at it, at least marmites don't cry when allies sing up in wars against them, and look at devils, constant qq about it. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
Solecist Project Weapons of Mass Distraction 18932	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:40:20 - [577] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: You're either doing this intentionally Are you really that daft? You can't be that daft. Seriously, don't tell me you are that daft. I am surrounded by idiots. Wow.... Ralph King-Griffin > ** you sol, years, **ing years since thats happend The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D Come along now, come along with me and I'll eeaasee your pain..
Dave Stark 7282	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:40:38 - [578] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: But there is no such bar in ganking, grief deccing, and awoxing. because it requires interacting with other players which is a variable which may as well be a random number generator. you can't compare an activity where the outcome is HIGHLY variable, to an activity where there are 0 unknown variables. Ummm.... what? The outcome of ganking is variable? No. The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. What are the variables here? All of those are free bacon. if i have to explain what the variables are, you're woefully unqualified to be speaking about the subject.
Solecist Project Weapons of Mass Distraction 18932	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:40:45 - [579] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: You're either doing this intentionally Are you really that daft? You can't be that daft. Seriously, don't tell me you are that daft. I am surrounded by idiots. Wow.... Ralph King-Griffin > ** you sol, years, **ing years since thats happend The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D Come along now, come along with me and I'll eeaasee your pain..
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2557	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:40:54 - [580] - Quote I'm kind of thinking that he's a Veers alt at this point. Some of those comments are desperately ignorant to the point of being intentionally obtuse. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Dave Stark 7282	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:41:27 - [581] - Quote Aiyshimin wrote: True, I didn't, it was CCP. they didn't either, but since you have nothing to contribute to the discussion i look forward to not seeing any more of your posts.
Basil Pupkin Why So Platypus 105	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:42:46 - [582] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of ganking is variable? No. The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. What are the variables here? All of those are free bacon. You're either doing this intentionally, or you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If you're being for realsies, then I'm positively-sure that you've never even attempted to do any of those three things, much less succeeded at one of them. I don't know a single eve player who didn't succeed in those. Even those who can't beat my dog in a quiz, if you get the joke. I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 743	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:42:52 - [583] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of ganking is variable? No. Yes it is if your oponent tries to play the game, there is a lot he can do about it. Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. Yes it is if your oponent tries to play the game, there is a lot he can do about it. Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. Yes it is if your oponent tries to play the game, there is a lot he can do about it. Good job Salvos Rhoska.. err, Ripard Teg.. I mean Basil Pupkin, 0 out of 3... try harder the Code ALWAYS wins
Solecist Project Weapons of Mass Distraction 18932	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:43:18 - [584] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: I'm kind of thinking that he's a Veers alt at this point. It doesn't matter. You are too full of yourself to listen to someone who tells you that you are being trolled. Same with Dave. You are victims. Stupid idiots. Easy marks. And you think you somehow are smart. That's the biggest joke behind this all. How about you just stfu and realise wtf you are doing here for a dozen pages now, if not more. You should be just facepalming yourself, okay? Turn on your brain. I'm so tired of all you idiots who think you are so smart ... ... but every lower class troll can keep triggering you ... ... because all you are ... ... are easy marks! Ralph King-Griffin > ** you sol, years, **ing years since thats happend The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D Come along now, come along with me and I'll eeaasee your pain..
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11285	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:43:37 - [585] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: I'm kind of thinking that he's a Veers alt at this point. Some of those comments are desperately ignorant to the point of being intentionally obtuse. He's even dumber than Veers, Veers isn't so obviously motivated by butthurt. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Dave Stark 7282	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:43:45 - [586] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. so you're admitting you have no evidence. confirming what we already knew, but good none the less.
Solecist Project Weapons of Mass Distraction 18932	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:43:52 - [587] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: I'm kind of thinking that he's a Veers alt at this point. It doesn't matter. You are too full of yourself to listen to someone who tells you that you are being trolled. Same with Dave. You are victims. Stupid idiots. Easy marks. And you think you somehow are smart. That's the biggest joke behind this all. How about you just stfu and realise wtf you are doing here for a dozen pages now, if not more. You should be just facepalming yourself, okay? Turn on your brain. I'm so tired of all you idiots who think you are so smart ... ... but every lower class troll can trigger you ... ... because all you are ... ... are easy marks! All of you! Well played, Basil. Ralph King-Griffin > ** you sol, years, **ing years since thats happend The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D Come along now, come along with me and I'll eeaasee your pain..
Solecist Project Weapons of Mass Distraction 18932	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:44:55 - [588] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Destiny Corrupted wrote: I'm kind of thinking that he's a Veers alt at this point. Some of those comments are desperately ignorant to the point of being intentionally obtuse. He's even dumber than Veers, Veers isn't so obviously motivated by butthurt. You too always have been an easily triggerable mark. You have no ground to judge whatsoever! Ralph King-Griffin > ** you sol, years, **ing years since thats happend The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D Come along now, come along with me and I'll eeaasee your pain..
Basil Pupkin Why So Platypus 105	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:45:05 - [589] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. so you're admitting you have no evidence. confirming what we already knew, but good none the less. Of course. I don't have it because it doesn't exist. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2557	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:45:13 - [590] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Destiny Corrupted wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of ganking is variable? No. The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. What are the variables here? All of those are free bacon. You're either doing this intentionally, or you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If you're being for realsies, then I'm positively-sure that you've never even attempted to do any of those three things, much less succeeded at one of them. I don't know a single eve player who didn't succeed in those. Even those who can't beat my dog in a quiz, if you get the joke. I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. Congratulations, you've just met one. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 744	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:47:34 - [591] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: I don't know a single eve player who didn't succeed in those. Even those who can't beat my dog in a quiz, if you get the joke. I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. I can give you a whole list of people who tried to suicide gank my scout and failed. So it seams it's not as easy as you think it is. There are even a lot of posts on minerbumping about this cases. In fact the first kills of the New Order where done by baiting some local heroes into shooting James' invincible Stabber. the Code ALWAYS wins
Basil Pupkin Why So Platypus 105	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:47:41 - [592] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of ganking is variable? No. Yes it is if your oponent tries to play the game, there is a lot he can do about it. Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of grief dec is variable? Lol no. Yes it is if your oponent tries to play the game, there is a lot he can do about it. Basil Pupkin wrote: The outcome of awoxing is variable? Neither. Yes it is if your oponent tries to play the game, there is a lot he can do about it. Gank is unavoidable. Unless you mean logoffski because one of your 25 scouts has found a gank team ahead. Which is hardly avoiding, since you're not going anywhere. Grief dec is unavoidable by means other than going over tremendous PITA of losing rented offices, dismounting POS and mounting it again, dropping roles in 24 hours and setting them again, populating new corp hangars in new corp, etc. Awoxing is unavoidable because gank is unavoidable, and it's basically a free gank. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11286	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:47:55 - [593] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: You too always have been an easily triggerable mark. And you have too much faith in humanity. As damning as it is, I think this particular swine is sincere. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Dave Stark 7284	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:50:30 - [594] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. so you're admitting you have no evidence. confirming what we already knew, but good none the less. Of course. I don't have it because it doesn't exist. based on how much the activities in question happen; i'd say that at this point there's literally more evidence for these things than there is for the reasons behind the sun rising and setting.
Basil Pupkin Why So Platypus 105	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:50:38 - [595] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: I don't know a single eve player who didn't succeed in those. Even those who can't beat my dog in a quiz, if you get the joke. I have no evidence to assume it's anything but a free bacon. I can give you a whole list of people who tried to suicide gank my scout and failed. So it seams it's not as easy as you think it is. There are even a lot of posts on minerbumping about this cases. In fact the first kills of the New Order where done by baiting some local heroes into shooting James' invincible Stabber. Oh, CODE, I see. Yes, those are people who failed literally at everything in eve, so they picked up completely foolproof activity of ganking and still manage to fail sometimes. I can't think of other reasons aside from doing it on purpose though, it's like failing to breath literally. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 shit loads 12 bull shits and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial.
Solecist Project Weapons of Mass Distraction 18933	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:51:00 - [596] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Solecist Project wrote: You too always have been an easily triggerable mark. And you have too much faith in humanity. As damning as it is, I think this particular swine is sincere. Haha yeah I do ... ... that's why I'm so angry about you people being so easily triggerable ... ... but I also spot trolls like no other. (: Ralph King-Griffin > ** you sol, years, **ing years since thats happend The Cuppy Cake Song <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D Come along now, come along with me and I'll eeaasee your pain..
Dave Stark 7284	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:52:34 - [597] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Gank is unavoidable. there have literally been hundreds of threads, over the course of the last few months, if not years, where people illustrate in detail how to avoid being ganked. **** i'm pretty sure tmc even wrote a whole article just for that one point. edit: Here it is.
Aiyshimin Shiva Furnace 352	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:54:17 - [598] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Aiyshimin wrote: True, I didn't, it was CCP. they didn't either, but since you have nothing to contribute to the discussion i look forward to not seeing any more of your posts. You never had anything to contribute but let's forget that for a moment- After this fix goes live, you can't use neutral logi in awoxing anymore. It's fixed. Is there something you don't understand about this?
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11286	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:55:34 - [599] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: Gank is unavoidable. there have literally been hundreds of threads, over the course of the last few months, if not years, where people illustrate in detail how to avoid being ganked. **** i'm pretty sure tmc even wrote a whole article just for that one point. edit: Here it is. You can't teach pigs to fish, Dave. You can give him a fishing hat, and a fishing pole. But he'll never be a real fisherman, no matter how he might look like one. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 135	Posted - 2015.01.17 12:57:02 - [600] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Gank is unavoidable. Unless you mean logoffski because one of your 25 scouts has found a gank team ahead. Which is hardly avoiding, since you're not going anywhere. Or local. Warping away from the scout sat on your face is hard. Quote: Grief dec is unavoidable by means other than going over tremendous PITA of losing rented offices, dismounting POS and mounting it again, dropping roles in 24 hours and setting them again, populating new corp hangars in new corp, etc. Or you could fight them. You know, seeing as this is a PvP game and that war dec is a mechanic that allows one group to fight another in HiSec. Or you could realise you're a bad CEO and disband your corp, alternatively, join a jorp run by more competent pilots. Quote: Awoxing is unavoidable because gank is unavoidable, and it's basically a free gank. Checking killboards and APIs is hard. Flying modest fit ships is hard. Providing SRP for the once-in-a-blue-moon awox is hard. PvP is hard. Kicking people from corp is hard. People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car



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