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Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion 254	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:55:27 - [181] - Quote Anhenka wrote: Is the solution to just "go find another alliance"? Yes. Go find another alliance that actually plays actively during the same time as you. I'm pretty sure this sort of balkanization/fracturing of massive blocs is ENTIRELY THE POINT.
Mo'Chuisle The Executives Executive Outcomes 17	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:55:38 - [182] - Quote How the ***** can anyone think up a new sovereignty concept that relies on a four hour prime time window per day for the only interaction between players and not stop and scrap the whole system at that point? You have to be functionally ****** to not realize that the moment you introduce that prime time window, even if the rest of your system was the greatest new change to eve in ever (and, oh my, it is not, it is more like the worst concept through up by people who clearly have no idea what benefits large blocks and how make smaller groups more competitive), that you should stop yourself and clearly start over from scratch. Have fun playing with your own dicks from now on until eternity small aussie groups
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 561	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:57:39 - [183] - Quote Also, Why did you have to go and create a new gimmick when hacking was there already ? (just to tie it to the Drifter lore? ) Why not allow those things to be hacked as we do now in explo ? This way maybe more of us "vagrants" will find a home and reason in a corp. " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion 254	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:57:50 - [184] - Quote Awkward Pi Duolus wrote: Remember that larger alliances have the ability to organize and sustain action better than most smaller ones. One outcome of these changes may very well be large areas of wasteland that is regularly mowed of sov 'just cause'. What's wrong with that? If there is no strong entity able to hold sov in these regions, but no powerbloc willing to likewise defend sov in these regions... should the region be owned by anyone? More freeports in more of nullsec is not necessarily a bad thing. The entire nullsec map does not NEED to have established sov. In fact, the current system that enables this seems fundamentally broken and is why people keep arguing that EVE needs more systems/more space!
Obil Que Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance 211	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:57:51 - [185] - Quote Proton Stars wrote: why are sov bears not shooting everything in jita yet? It is outside of the 4 hour vulnerable window?
Airi Cho Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes 68	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:58:33 - [186] - Quote knobber Jobbler wrote: So CCP, you've not really addressed the incentives for holding Sov, simply fighting for the sake of it isn't a proper conflict driver: see the rather dull area of EVE call nullsec. It's a start I guess but: Prime Time thing is a terrible idea, you'll see alliances start to lose their multinational flavour. If GSF sets prime time to US, what do all the EU guys do right? Must be a better option to scale this or opt out for other benefits, scale it base on alliance size. This entosis thing, what happens if we get 5000 ceptors all with them on board? Wasn't this question asked at any point? AFK cloaking - It's going to affect indices, for better or worse. Look at PL vs HERO ... not everything blue around you more things to shoot.
W Sherman Elric Blackstone Holdings Sev3rance 11	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:58:34 - [187] - Quote Total Newbie wrote: Snip Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. To recap: 1st phase we made it impossible to project force. 2nd phase we have made it so any scrub corp or band of newbie alts can mess with sov. response to #1 did you miss the BL march across eve? I didn't that was very cool watching BL move system by system to get into the fight 7 hours it took them. Impossible? no hard? yes and it should be.
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 630	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:59:00 - [188] - Quote Proton Stars wrote: why are sov bears not shooting everything in jita yet? We're giving CCP time to repent. Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
Zara Tosh Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 191	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:59:09 - [189] - Quote so, to increase interaction between different timezones and to still give alliances incentive to have memebrs over multiple timezones (not just the 4h eve fix nerds), i think it would be useful if, under the assumption that an alliance holds both the ihub and station, both of these timers must be off-set by 12h. You can still decide to defend the station (maybe have the ihub timer be dependent on station timer simply), but byebye all your fancy ratting upgrades - should have gotten some friends to interact with.
Bailian Moxtain North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion 23	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:59:43 - [190] - Quote Trash our supers and Hey lets go find those 10 command-thingys, hoooow fun. Lets put 5k ppl into a const for defense, wonder who wins

Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 561	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:00:20 - [191] - Quote There will be blood :D " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
virm pasuul Viziam Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:00:26 - [192] - Quote Lots of tears in this thread. You should consider buying a crying permit before James sets his sights on 0.0. The insults to the devs are a bit off. Try being more constructive and using more reasoning.
Dictateur Imperator Babylon Knights DARKNESS. 14	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:00:55 - [193] - Quote Ok, You want a feedback ? 4Hour of prime time is to many, maybe 2 hours is enough because it's means pvp EVERY DAY during this time you. Because yes you have forgot a little thing: people who want easy km g to engage everyday all territory just ' for fun'. And it's recommended to make a break every 2 hours of gaming. If i have read the devblog: The attacker camp can have a lot of link activate , and the capture will be continue unless defense deploy is own link ? So if we make 50 alliance of 2-3 people to run attack we have 50 link on and enjoy to efenser to defend against this ? Maybe make an interdiction to have more of 1 link for each camp. Capital and super capital be use for what now ? Some sov become easier to defend as other : you can have Death star pos near TCU not near other sov structure ... give possibilliy to deploy some defence near other structure to avoid stupid strategy like 3 people in each system of your opponent reconnect an activate link same time in each sov building ? Nerf perma cloacking because it become to powerful with this new system ?
Speedy Conzollis Only Fools and Horses 6	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:01:31 - [194] - Quote Left 0.0 Sov due to the mechanics for a WH, peeked outside at the new mechanics, nope not coming back out for that!
Proton Stars OREfull 21	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:02:01 - [195] - Quote Why is no one else concerned that GM's are once again playing in and influencing sov warfare with hidden alts. Cause that went so well before in BoB, didint it! 'Oi Fozzie im poor, spawn me an officer in this belt please' 'Oi Fozziee, Have a look on that ccp graph and tell me the best t3's to build over a 6 month period' 'Oi Fozzie, Develop me a sov system that breaks the current gameplay cause im too lazy to try to take sov and invest me time right now'
Elona Solette GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:02:21 - [196] - Quote Blatant Australian timezone buff.
imtokenitnow Federal Organization for Outerspace Freedom Circle-Of-Two 1	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:02:34 - [197] - Quote About the primetime zone, why don't scale it on member count AND/OR number of TCU, IHUB, stations ? And make the ability to split the timer in two primetime (who can be close together) if > 6h (for exemple) ? It should not be too hard to find a function doing that. Like : 3H Small number of alliance & systems : Phoebe Freeport Republic 5H Medium-Large number of alliance & systems : Curatores Veritatis Alliance or Northern Coalition. 2*4H Huge number of alliance & systems : Northern Associate or Goonswarm Federation. It resolve some of the problems of the unique primetime & also the bigger you are, the harder it is to protect your space. What do you think about that ?
iP0D Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:02:34 - [198] - Quote Primary This Rifter wrote: Proton Stars wrote: why are sov bears not shooting everything in jita yet? We're giving CCP time to repent. No, people are being considerate, and giving them time. After all, the main selling point of this new proposed system is that it is modular and extendable. Just like Dominion was.
Querns GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation 1354	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:02:47 - [199] - Quote Initial thought on this: * Mining providing defensive bonuses is probably not going to be used in any significant capacity while nullsec mining is in such a hilariously bad place. I mean, check out this mining profitability chart: http://eve-industry.org/mining/ . No one in their right mind is going to call CTA RED PEN MINING OPS to buttress their sov. Gonna need to let it sink in some more before I think of anything else, I think. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Karbowiak 4M-CORP Black Legion. 196	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:03:09 - [200] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Why not just make it simple ? Create- I dunno - a huge star-base that you can anchor a the frigging sun or whatever . If it gets destroyed it's no longer your system. Occupancy will get you bonuses towards how hard it is to get destroyed etc. You can defend it with platform/batteries and active fleets patrolling. The End. Yes, so much yes..

Rowells ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans 2043	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:03:49 - [201] - Quote Proton Stars wrote: Why is no one else concerned that GM's are once again playing in and influencing sov warfare with hidden alts. Cause that went so well before in BoB, didint it! 'Oi Fozzie im poor, spawn me an officer in this belt please' 'Oi Fozziee, Have a look on that ccp graph and tell me the best t3's to build over a 6 month period' 'Oi Fozzie, Develop me a sov system that breaks the current gameplay cause im too lazy to try to take sov and invest me time right now' cuz i left my tinfoil hat at home
Irregessa Obfuscation and Reflections 114	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:04:09 - [202] - Quote If sov structures are so separated, does this mean that player alliances can anchor an ihub in NPC nullsec? Wormhole space? Same question in regards to a station. What structure determines sov for the ability to use a SCAA? Ihub or TCU? Seems like the answer is ihub, but want to make sure.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 163	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:04:25 - [203] - Quote Capqu wrote: also rip supers LOL Good, frankly. Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
MajorScrewup Thundercats The Initiative. 3	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:04:36 - [204] - Quote I seriously thought there was going to be more after all this time... Realistically there is now the possibility that I could never be involved in trying to take SOV as every other alliance could set a time when I cannot log into EvE and play. This artificial timer could mean that EvE null-sec only becomes an option to certain timezones. I also thought that they would start to use degradation of Sovereignty in systems that were never being used for anything by a corporation / alliance (mining / ratting, jumps, etc); but these metrics are only used to make a system stronger or leave them stable, never weaker. I would have preferred them to add some sort of degradation where and inactive system would slowly fall out of captured status and either be easier to capture or gain non captured status.
Christopher AET hirr Northern Coalition. 904	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:05:43 - [205] - Quote While the idea of a 4 hour primetime for exiting reinforce has merit, it's far too constrictive for roaming gangs to mess with. I think removing the primetime altogether for the initial attack and have it come out in the primetime, then from there it would act as stated. Could be 20 hours, could be 20 minutes. Don't have it signposted outside the alliance so that way gangs have to come and probe the space with entosis links to get a feel for the timers. I would also advocate extending the time to 6 hours, to add a little uncertainty. The idea of occupancy and use buffing the defendability of a system is a good idea, though it's perhaps a little simplistic in its current form. I am sure that can be iterated on. The command node idea is excellent. Could really add some interesting flavour to fights. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Galdur Trudaihnel 13. Enigma Project 3	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:05:57 - [206] - Quote Much Love CCP You have had me worried at times, and with star citizen and elite dangerous on the radar I was touching cloth and hoping you would pull something out of the bag...... But this is a game changer, a whole new level. YES YES YES YES YES. You have cracked it ! This will mix things up for all players in EVE. Null care bears and big alliances in general will hate it ..... everyone else should love it for the varied content it will bring to small, medium and large scale pvp. A few teaks here and there and bring on June :) Love it or hate it much content will be had! No more blue balling small roaming gangs though :) Cheers Will
Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion 254	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:06:00 - [207] - Quote Saidin Thor wrote: I'm not sure CCP has ever had to deal with IHhub logistics first-hand. Being easy to destroy may or may not be a good thing, but IHubs are a HUGE pain to place and upgrade right now. Bigger upgrades AND the IHubs themselves can only be transported in a freighter right now. There's no way a little alliance has the logistics capacity to regularly replace IHubs that roaming gangs will be destroying just for the lulz unless that changes. So? Why should a smaller alliance be able to drop and maintain an iHub? The point of this system is to make it unnecessary to do so, yet still feel like some small piece of space is "yours". Smaller alliances are being encouraged to drop a TCU and some POS's to own/live in a quiet constellation, not drop station eggs and turn every bit of their space into a major alliance powerbloc. Not every piece/benefit of the new sov system should be accessible to alliances of every size; that would be dumb. This new setup intentionally decouples this stuff for exactly this reason.
Tiberon Darkstar Dark Praetorian Order 0	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:06:59 - [208] - Quote Personally, I think the system is brilliant. It's an interesting mix of current sov, occupancy sov, and FW mechanics. I would like to see some combat role for supers so that they make themselves vulnerable, but I think they might just be able to take their originally intended role of squad/fleet support and be highly valued not for their DPS, but for their overall effect on your forces and your ability to facilitate sov combat by bringing reinforcements and supplies to the combat area. Sort of like a mobile mini-station. This also gives an incentive to hunt them down when you find them so that you can route your attackers. The activity levels and strategic options that I can think of for this system is staggering, maybe too much so for those that are used to the static null we have had for years now. I can't wait!
Worrff Viziam Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:07:07 - [209] - Quote My God What a load of cr4p. What the hell is WRONG with you people ? CCP Philosophy: If it works, break it. If itGÇÖs broken, leave it alone and break something else.
Total Newbie Deadly Shadow Clan Executive Outcomes 23	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:07:22 - [210] - Quote Galdur Trudaihnel wrote: Much Love CCP You have had me worried at times, and with star citizen and elite dangerous on the radar I was touching cloth and hoping you would pull something out of the bag...... But this is a game changer, a whole new level. YES YES YES YES YES. You have cracked it ! This will mix things up for all players in EVE. Null care bears and big alliances in general will hate it ..... everyone else should love it for the varied content it will bring to small, medium and large scale pvp. A few teaks here and there and bring on June :) Love it or hate it much content will be had! No more blue balling small roaming gangs though :) Cheers Will there is no longer a reason to hold sov if this is implemented.... sov would only be held in strategic locations that cover a whole bunch of r-64's and 32's. The little guy wont be able to afford his sov bill, he will run out of money because he cant control the moon income..... then he leaves 0.0.... we have come full circle



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