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Angry Mustache
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
195
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:30:25 -
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Here's an idea, what if they were battleships only.
It would give battleships a reason to be flown, and not make sov into a giant game of "catch the ceptor"
An official Member of the Goonswarm Federation Complaints Department.
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Hemmo Paskiainen
470
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:30:37 -
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6 Years too late, and it will probably take another 4 or 5 before before all the Tech-Isk-Poison is out of the system. 
Long live the Greyscale!
"Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
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MiliasColds
The Elite Few Inc.
The Methodical Alliance
23
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:30:54 -
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Airi Cho wrote:Gypsien Agittain wrote:Almost forgot that:
/when/
Fatigue + constellation-wide sovops=1
Capitalshipsvalue=0
Just for you to know. Can use gates
^^^
also it's just constellation wide, spread them out ?? |
Anthar Thebess
942
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:31:09 -
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ISD Rontea wrote:Change SBU BPO to Ensotis link BPO. Is this possible?
BPC only from drifters?
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Current Habit
Get LP or Die Trying
32
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:31:17 -
[125] - Quote
Thank God you released this devblog today, I was seriously worried the number of icons in the top left corner wouldn't rise as steadily as they did in the last six months. This is a great relieve for me and all other icon-loving people. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
630
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:31:33 -
[126] - Quote
"Incentives? What are those?"
Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
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Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
393
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:31:33 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:In other words, welcome to the EVE Cold War: if you're not part of the CFC bloc or the N3 block, you will be sent back to Jita in an afternoon.
Tell us exactly how it's any different now?
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
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MiliasColds
The Elite Few Inc.
The Methodical Alliance
23
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:31:42 -
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Angry Mustache wrote:Here's an idea, what if they were battleships only.
It would give battleships a reason to be flown, and not make sov into a giant game of "catch the ceptor"
if he can't warp off he's far more catchable, like with a loki :P |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
7506
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:31:57 -
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Amazing, simply awesome. I really like the look of all these changes and look forward to them immensely.
I will say this, I really want to see some manner of descriptive Sov come to wormhole space. I'm not saying we should be able to build stations or supercapitals, or other balance breaking things which would make us completely impossible to remove from a system. But at the same time, the occupants of the average wormhole system put way more time and effort into their specific system then the owners of most sov null systems. The new sov system is descriptive, it goes off of a 'you get out of a system what you put into it' perspective, which I like a lot. But I definitely think we wormholers have put enough into our systems that we deserve to be able to put up flags saying the system is ours.
Fear and Loathing in Internet Spaceships
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Cheyennes
Evil Doers
3
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:32:26 -
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MiliasColds wrote:a note for out of timezone players (from declared prime time)
you still raise indices which makes things easier to defend.
you can still help with capture events that are ongoing past prime time.
you can be useful attacking other alliances whose prime time aligns with your TZ
you can assist allies
you can contribute to general logistics
you can attrack and reinforces POS and stations services
doesn't seem like nothing to me
In other words, you are relegated to all the crap work, while the rest of eve enjoys PvP..... No thanks
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Ix Method
META Directorate
Talos Coalition
421
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:32:36 -
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I yield to null types in their opinions of this as a sov system but as concepts that could be extended/expanded to suit other parts of space some of this is really pretty awesome.
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
930
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:33:09 -
[132] - Quote
Speedkermit Damo wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:In other words, welcome to the EVE Cold War: if you're not part of the CFC bloc or the N3 block, you will be sent back to Jita in an afternoon. Tell us exactly how it's any different now?
Provibloc still exists now. |
MiliasColds
The Elite Few Inc.
The Methodical Alliance
23
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:33:46 -
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Cheyennes wrote:MiliasColds wrote:a note for out of timezone players (from declared prime time)
you still raise indices which makes things easier to defend.
you can still help with capture events that are ongoing past prime time.
you can be useful attacking other alliances whose prime time aligns with your TZ
you can assist allies
you can contribute to general logistics
you can attrack and reinforces POS and stations services
doesn't seem like nothing to me In other words, you are relegated to all the crap work, while the rest of eve enjoys PvP..... No thanks
none of those things are PVP immune...... |
Proton Stars
OREfull
16
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:34:19 -
[134] - Quote
well i've no reason to have my 0.0 characters anymore. I can sell my isk making toons and be a super rich frigate pilot and save -ú70 a month on accounts, so good on that respect.
Bad because there will be no narrative to the combat in 0.0, its become world of tanks in space with lots of not really connected instance fights that will be between frigates and ships not really worth hunting. Im glad that CCp kept with its tradition of not actually thinking about the value of gameplay and instead decided that a t1 frigate must be able to do everything
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Bonzair
Estamos Solos Corporation
Estamos Solos Alliance.
8
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:34:19 -
[135] - Quote
you will loose a lot of people. again. |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC
Goonswarm Federation
437
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:34:31 -
[136] - Quote
Speedkermit Damo wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:In other words, welcome to the EVE Cold War: if you're not part of the CFC bloc or the N3 block, you will be sent back to Jita in an afternoon. Tell us exactly how it's any different now?
i have to commit to grinding about a billion EHP if i want to steamroll providence for funsies today
with i can do it in a few days with subcap fleets
it's not MUCH worse since it's already quite bad but when you're trying to fix a problem and actually make it worse, you sure didn't think things through |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger
Nulli Secunda
1687
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:35:23 -
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take the moons
**** the sov
let it burn
Build your empire !
Rent Space in Feythabolis and Omist
Contact me for details :)
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
560
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:36:50 -
[138] - Quote
Summer of Rage 2.0 ?
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Fidelas Constans
2042
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:37:22 -
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ok before anyone else freekin says it, point me to the damn ceptor that can target out to 250km. |
Gypsien Agittain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:37:44 -
[140] - Quote
Proton Stars wrote:well i've no reason to have my 0.0 characters anymore. I can sell my isk making toons and be a super rich frigate pilot and save -ú70 a month on accounts, so good on that respect.
Bad because there will be no narrative to the combat in 0.0, its become world of tanks in space with lots of not really connected instance fights that will be between frigates and ships not really worth hunting. Im glad that CCp kept with its tradition of not actually thinking about the value of gameplay and instead decided that a t1 frigate must be able to do everything
And frigate pilots will fly to Elite Dangerous and Scam Citizen, and when they want to attract people back to the game with capital ships, what bringed most of the player base to EVE, it'd be too late. |
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iP0D
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:37:58 -
[141] - Quote
Primary This Rifter wrote:iP0D wrote:Also, it's absolutely ironic to see what spills over now and from where. Advocate stakeholders hurray.
At this point I feel like I should just tag every CSM and ex-CSM member with "shill".
You wouldn't be wrong :P Regardless of whether willing or just too deep in this or that trench.
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Anhenka
The Cult of Personality
DARKNESS.
1138
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:38:11 -
[142] - Quote
MiliasColds wrote:a note for out of timezone players (from declared prime time)
you still raise indices which makes things easier to defend.
you can still help with capture events that are ongoing past prime time.
you can be useful attacking other alliances whose prime time aligns with your TZ
you can assist allies
you can contribute to general logistics
you can attrack and reinforces POS and stations services
doesn't seem like nothing to me
So I can PvE farm which might add a few seconds to a capture timer (oh joy)
In the event that my EU alliance is so bad that things are still going on 6 hours later when I get home in US time, I can join in (heh)
I can go help other people that... oh wait the subject was participating with the defense for MY alliance, not the sprawling blue blob which this does nowhere near enough to discourage.
I can contribute to general logistics... OH joy! Instead of being a PvP'r, I'm now relegated to space truck.
POS warfare is cancer. And attacking enemy station services is A: only irritating, B: extremely temporary, C: doesn't actually help my side in a defensive war. |
Coelomate
Gilliomate Corp
25
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:38:21 -
[143] - Quote
Looks like an amazing start, although waiting for June killed a little bit of my joy.
My first major concern: The measurement of occupancy looks like it just takes the current system, which as far as I know means no credit for PVP or market activity - two things that actually happen in heavily occupied nullsec.
Love,
~Coelomate
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W Sherman Elric
Blackstone Holdings
Sev3rance
11
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:38:27 -
[144] - Quote
So lets say cfc owns the ihub BL owns the TCU and CVA owns the station who gets the defensive bonus? Next is the ship multiplier just going to be applied to caps and larger? If I read that right a cap could take up to 160 min to create a timer. |
Brain Gehirn
Reikoku
Pandemic Legion
66
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:38:38 -
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"Hey guys, see that shinny ship blinking? alpha it."
- System is good. Everyone dock.
Harassment is getting a new level.
What is a signature?
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Masao Kurata
Z List
189
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:38:45 -
[146] - Quote
Sooooooo the only reason not to use the vastly superior T2 entosis link is price. I think you need to make it more expensive than 80M, that's still cheap for what it does, especially considering the benefits of the range. |
Barbaydos
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:39:23 -
[147] - Quote
MiliasColds wrote:Cheyennes wrote:MiliasColds wrote:a note for out of timezone players (from declared prime time)
you still raise indices which makes things easier to defend.
you can still help with capture events that are ongoing past prime time.
you can be useful attacking other alliances whose prime time aligns with your TZ
you can assist allies
you can contribute to general logistics
you can attrack and reinforces POS and stations services
doesn't seem like nothing to me In other words, you are relegated to all the crap work, while the rest of eve enjoys PvP..... No thanks none of those things are PVP immune......
true but has hardly any impact upon the actual sov warfare mechanic itself, i.e. ustz attacks sov au tz attacks pos and pocos and makes timers for the defender to chose wether to defend or not (again depends on the stront timer, which any decent allaince/corp will be able to change on the fly during an attack) which leads back to the main tz usually
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W Sherman Elric
Blackstone Holdings
Sev3rance
11
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:39:28 -
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Coelomate wrote:Looks like an amazing start, although waiting for June killed a little bit of my joy.
My first major concern: The measurement of occupancy looks like it just takes the current system, which as far as I know means no credit for PVP or market activity - two things that actually happen in heavily occupied nullsec.
There are systems where tons of non ratting and non mining happen but are the most "occupied" systems (staging systems and the like). |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
913
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:40:01 -
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Baneken wrote:That flashing crap under the first paragraph was so incredibly annoying that I had kill it with ad-block; since human eye is hard-wired to attract on flashy moving things do you have any idea how incredibly annoying it was to even attempt to read that text with that thing constantly whirling and flashing on screen ?
You clearly haven't logged into the client ina while; every single window changes colour when you activate or deactivate them. |
Dirk Morbho
Mindstar Technology
Get Off My Lawn
33
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:40:05 -
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The PrimeTime(tm) seems very artificial.
The 'lore' of the enosis link being tied to the drifters is WEAK.
What I see is a bunch of micromanagement and babysitting of sov structures. Sounds like an annoying load of crap where griefers get the upperhand.
Where are the benefits to owning sov? Also, since CCP is trying to push alliances into smaller footprints, when will high player densities be supported? I see no changes to support this. There is still a max # of players making isk that a system will support. And you have not addressed this issue at all.
tl;dr: WTF? Try again. Do you even understand nullsec?
ps. The temporary freeport is the only thing interesting about this system. :content: and :tears:
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