I'm convinced that every sov holder that cries about lack of benefits doesn't want to actually fight anyone, they just want it to be easy to sit on what they have and continue making money and not fighting people. This isn't to say that there is no merit to the 'lack of benefits' claim, but no one complaining about it has presented one yet.

If anyone wants a more balanced and thought out view as opposed to all of the mindless whining I highly suggest the thread on the EVE sub-Reddit.

/r/EVE is an anti-CFC circlejerk, so that's hardly surprising. I'm sure everyone there supports these changes out of spite.

I'm not sure CCP has ever had to deal with IHhub logistics first-hand. Being easy to destroy may or may not be a good thing, but IHubs are a HUGE pain to place and upgrade right now. Bigger upgrades AND the IHubs themselves can only be transported in a freighter right now. There's no way a little alliance has the logistics capacity to regularly replace IHubs that roaming gangs will be destroying just for the lulz unless that changes.

If you want to stick with the "but sov logistics should be hard" mantra, then at least resizing them for jump freighters would be better than nothing. Ideally, making IHubs and their upgrades Blockade Runner size would open up a lot of options for the little guy.

Another change related to IHubs I would suggest is allowing IHubs to be placed on moons (so you can place them next to POSes). This gives an alliance the OPTION to have a VERY LOW barrier to messing with system upgrades. A POS isn't particularly difficult to defang even with a small group, but gives an IHub some level of protection against marauders that are just trying to salt the fields.



Also the premise that defenders will regularly use jump bridges during capture events has to be a joke, right? Have the CCP employees that live in null sec ever tried chaining jump bridges since the fatigue changes went through? Let us know how that worked out for them for the subsequent two weeks.

/r/EVE is an anti-CFC circlejerk, so that's hardly surprising. I'm sure everyone there supports these changes out of spite.

However, CCP should support this transition as much as possible, by adding a proper Coalition system. Alliances should be able to create and join Coalitions (Hey, you could even name your coalition Brave Collective etc so you can still 100% identify with your buddies in other timezones!). They would be visible in-game just like alliances, and provide basic management features such as a Coalition chat, an overview state ("pilot is in my coallition"), standings and, maybe, shared access to the new sovereignity overview.
This would allow the current big alliances to keep their names and identities aswell as provide sov combat to members of all timezones.

So basically you don't want to have to protect your space?

No, it's a conflict driver. Find me a war in history that was had "because it was fun". If you de-incentive the reasons to hold space, null will become pretty boring after a while. Simply having your flag in space is not enough.

when it comes to this, its not so much an anti-cfc circlejerk as a bunch of people who no longer hold sov

people who hold sov but hate us realize how bad this is

/r/EVE is an anti-CFC circlejerk, so that's hardly surprising. I'm sure everyone there supports these changes out of spite.

ofc but a single guy should just not be able to do anything in the first place it's a system not worlds collide lvl 4

& again i like the idea of fighting over nodes, maybe in class limited nodes to make it "different"

BUT getting a system should allways be boring, because the reward you get is better.

out of eve example here.

grinding eggs for a netherwing drake in WoW for maybe 30 hours straight sure wasn't fun but the reward was awesome.

same goes for systems.

To the CSM. Did you really endorse this?

Grrr goons. People there enjoy the changes not because of goons, but because they believe these changes are good.

To the CSM. Did you really endorse this?

a note for out of timezone players (from declared prime time)

you still raise indices which makes things easier to defend.
you can still help with capture events that are ongoing past prime time.
you can be useful attacking other alliances whose prime time aligns with your TZ
you can assist allies
you can contribute to general logistics
you can attrack and reinforces POS and stations services

doesn't seem like nothing to me

we have to create a strategic mining division to protect important systems are you ******* kidding me

nullsec mining has been broken for ages, go look at the price of mega and zyd and then think about why on earth mining should play a role here