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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.27 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dave Tehsulei Can anchored containers be probed now ?
I tried a few times without success on sisi
No, when kali first came live on sisi one of the scan groups was named Containers and could be used to scan for cans. Now that group is named Scrap and seems to find nothing.
Cans (both jet cans and anchored) don't even show up on the directional scanner anymore. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.27 22:52:00 -
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Update: The bug where if you used the system map to warp to scan results you would end up at the wrong result has now been fixed. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.27 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Amarria Lightwielder on 27/11/2006 23:21:02
Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Originally by: Amarria Lightwielder you say there's only one rig that boosts ship scanning, I was looking at this other rig:
Emission Scope Sharpener I This ship modification is designed to increase the efficiency of a ship's analyzer modules.
Have you tried this one, does it perhaps boost the scanning strenght of your probes or something?
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/electronicsandsensorupgrades/scanners/dataandcompositionscanners/22177.asp
Analyzer module. Used for archaeology.
ah ok, thank you :)
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 04:03:00 -
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Seems they forgot to seed Recon Probe Launcher I so no ship probing for a while sadly. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 04:03:00 -
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Seems they forgot to seed Recon Probe Launcher I so no ship probing for a while sadly. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.11.29 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi Seems they forgot to seed Recon Probe Launcher I so no ship probing for a while sadly.
Indeed 
Hopefuly its sorted by DT.
I can't believe people are still asking me if you can probe/scan cloaked ships...  -----
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oodin
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.29 08:51:00 -
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IS IT POSSIBLE TO SCAN FOR CLOAKED SHIPS? 
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.11.29 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: oodin IS IT POSSIBLE TO SCAN FOR CLOAKED SHIPS? 
You make me wanna cry... -----
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Okotomi Anki
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Posted - 2006.11.29 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: oodin IS IT POSSIBLE TO SCAN FOR CLOAKED SHIPS? 
YES, IT IS POSSIBLE TO SCAN FOR CLOAKED SHIPS. Period.
It is not possible to find them, though. :)
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.11.29 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Okotomi Anki
Originally by: oodin IS IT POSSIBLE TO SCAN FOR CLOAKED SHIPS? 
YES, IT IS POSSIBLE TO SCAN FOR CLOAKED SHIPS. Period.
It is not possible to find them, though. :)
OMG I fell for it... I'm too tired... -----
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frivolous
Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 11:25:00 -
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Thanks for taking the time to write up the guide fellas most helpfull.
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:36:00 -
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Update: The Recon Probe Launcher I BPO is seeded but they forgot to add a market group for it so we can't see it. Probably need a client patch to fix (unconfirmed) so don't expect them for a week
Originally by: Jiekon the blueprint will be seeded soon, for some reason the blueprint didn't have a market group.
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Skybar
Minmatar Deviance Inc SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:29:00 -
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Suggestion: Make a note in that first post that there is a different between the racial quest probes and "Quest Survey Probe".
I still don't fully understanding probing (not astro at V yet), but I know that one made me confused.
 "Dauntless fleet commander, or the most nefarious pirate ever to terrorize the galaxy"
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Skybar Suggestion: Make a note in that first post that there is a different between the racial quest probes and "Quest Survey Probe".
I still don't fully understanding probing (not astro at V yet), but I know that one made me confused.
Well considering I only talk about ship probing I don't really see the reason. Neither the Quest Survey probe nor the Quest Exploration probe set are useful for ship probing, so even if you mistake them for each other you are not going to mistake any of them for ship probes.
It should definitively be included in a exploration or survey guide. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Zan Tu
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Posted - 2006.11.29 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zan Tu on 29/11/2006 17:32:00
You sir, are a god in training )
Thank you for an wonderful post. I have a question about the 4 racial types of probes tho..
Are the gravi probes just for caldari space, minni for minni etc etc?
Or are the objects out there randomly placed, ie amarr type in caldari space, use amar probe?
Can you mix the racial types for a resualt?
thanks ////////EDIT - Reading full post(s) for the win....got my answers further dn..thanks
Zan
"R&D Lottery: A Tax on people with poor math skills..."
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Phichi
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:23:00 -
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I'm kinda tired so this might be a stupid question. The recon probe launcher is meant for ship scanning. Does this mean that I cannot use the scan probe launcher for ship scanning anymore?
Muggers point out failures in one's personal security measures, but it does not alter the fact that they are muggers.
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Phichi I'm kinda tired so this might be a stupid question. The recon probe launcher is meant for ship scanning. Does this mean that I cannot use the scan probe launcher for ship scanning anymore?
You can but it's not optimal. It takes much longer (5x) to run a scan with it. If you don't have good skills + covert some probes are likely to timeout before the scan finishes. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Sevyc
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.11.29 19:41:00 -
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I just took my buzzard out with an old scan probe launcher, and some old probes, just to mess around with the new system (hadn't gotten to play with it on sisi, since ive been too busy IRL).
I fired off a snoop (3au) probe, and started a scan. Imagine my dismay when I saw the counter was ticking down from 360 seconds. Shouldn't my scan time with Covert ops 4, and Survey 3 be a lot less than that? Is this a bug? Can anyone else confirm they are getting the proper bonus from their covert ops ship?
Thanks!
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sevyc I just took my buzzard out with an old scan probe launcher, and some old probes, just to mess around with the new system (hadn't gotten to play with it on sisi, since ive been too busy IRL).
I fired off a snoop (3au) probe, and started a scan. Imagine my dismay when I saw the counter was ticking down from 360 seconds. Shouldn't my scan time with Covert ops 4, and Survey 3 be a lot less than that? Is this a bug? Can anyone else confirm they are getting the proper bonus from their covert ops ship?
Thanks!
Survey have no effect on scan probes, it's for cargo scanners and similar mods. The skill you want to train is Signal Acquisition (as it says in my guide :) ). ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Still Hart
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sevyc I fired off a snoop (3au) probe, and started a scan. Imagine my dismay when I saw the counter was ticking down from 360 seconds. Shouldn't my scan time with Covert ops 4, and Survey 3 be a lot less than that? Is this a bug? Can anyone else confirm they are getting the proper bonus from their covert ops ship?
Read the original post. Scan time for the old scanner has been increased to 600 seconds so 360 is correct with Covops 4. You want to use a Recon Launcher to scan with the old probes.
Also can the author of the exploration part of the guide add in that to use the exploaration probes you need Astrometrics 5? I find this fact rather annoying and thus good to know.
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Aquemini Amarr
Amarr STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.29 21:24:00 -
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Thank you for this guide, it all makes a bit more sense now 
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griff1972
Caldari UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.29 22:24:00 -
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do you need to be in a cosmos type system to do exploration
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.29 23:53:00 -
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Great guides lads, I'm bookmarking this :) ----------------
Kali ships worth flying left: Harbinger, Rokh. Only 2 left tux, you can make it! |

Shanur
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Posted - 2006.11.30 00:29:00 -
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Awesome guide. First real briefing on how to actually DO exploring. Seeing as i planned to become a cloaker and a scout, this helps out a lot. Recon seems to make covops and scout ships a must have for any corp, instead of just a situational tool for pirate and raiding corps.
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Barry Bennett
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Posted - 2006.11.30 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Barry Bennett on 30/11/2006 12:30:46 Just a question about the maths involved - are we sure that it's the pinpointing skill used in determining the hit (the one with the 10% bonus)- according to the skill descriptions the relevant modifier would more likely be Astrometric Triangulation at 5%? Pinpointing would make sense on the deviation though.
Awesome guide though.
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Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:06:00 -
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I am also interested to know can you explore any system ? Or does it have to be a COSMOS system ?
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: griff1972 do you need to be in a cosmos type system to do exploration
No.
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Sevyc
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.11.30 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Still HartRead the original post. Scan time for the old scanner has been increased to 600 seconds so 360 is correct with Covops 4. You want to use a Recon Launcher to scan with the old probes.
Also can the author of the exploration part of the guide add in that to use the exploaration probes you need Astrometrics 5? I find this fact rather annoying and thus good to know. SH[/quote
Ah, apologies, I must have misread it. I thought that the base was 360 seconds. Thanks for clearing it up!
-Sev
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Santa Claw
Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.11.30 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Santa Claw on 30/11/2006 15:15:34 Edited by: Santa Claw on 30/11/2006 15:12:49
Originally by: Hoshi Advanced Probing The full formula to calculate Signal Strength is: Signal Strength = (Probe Sensor Strength * (1 + Level of Signal Acquisition * 0.05) / 100) * (1 û (0.65 ((Target Range / Max Range) ^ 1.5))) * (Target Signature Radius / Target Sensor Strength)
Sure that Signal Acuisition is the right skill in this formula? It gives a 10% time Bonus. I think the right skill would be Astrometric Triangulation.
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Hoshi
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Santa Claw Edited by: Santa Claw on 30/11/2006 15:15:34 Edited by: Santa Claw on 30/11/2006 15:12:49
Originally by: Hoshi Advanced Probing The full formula to calculate Signal Strength is: Signal Strength = (Probe Sensor Strength * (1 + Level of Signal Acquisition * 0.05) / 100) * (1 û (0.65 ((Target Range / Max Range) ^ 1.5))) * (Target Signature Radius / Target Sensor Strength)
Sure that Signal Acuisition is the right skill in this formula? It gives a 10% time Bonus. I think the right skill would be Astrometric Triangulation.
ops, correcting now, thank you :) ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
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