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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2028
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:07:00 -
[91] - Quote
Vernn wrote:And how are any of those tangible benefits to them? The same way the ice you mine is tangible to you. Then report them and have them banned, because that's what happens when you grief in EVE.
GǪof course, you're not doing that because you know full well that they aren't griefing and that nothing will happen if you create such a petition GÇö you're just using that word to overdramatise their doing something you don't like. So stop lying, especially to yourself. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
534
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:07:00 -
[92] - Quote
Vernn wrote:THEY ARE GRIEFERS! "Griefing" in EVE has a very different definition. That might be considered griefing in some other games, but not in EVE. In EVE, they're just entertainment.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |

First Lieutenant Dan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:08:00 -
[93] - Quote
8/10 |

Nullbeard Rager
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:09:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:Vernn wrote:This is a game, its supposed to be fun. On this point you're completely wrong (and you're the 2nd person I've had to correct on this point today.) EVE is not really a game, per se, it is a virtual world. It is not 'supposed' to be exciting or boring. It is not 'supposed' to be easy or hard. It is not 'supposed' to be fun or excruciating. Any more than life is. But the mechanics need to make sense and be 'fair' or else the integrity of the virtual world and the sense of immersion are compromised. Botting, exploits and flawed (unfair) game mechanics are poison to virtual worlds. CCP has a long track record of neglect in these areas and that is indeed the single biggest problem holding EVE back from its potential.
Er, no.
First, any sentence containing the phrases "you're completely wrong" or "you're the second person I've had to correct on this" smacks of arrogance and a desperate need for self-importance. Next time try, "I disagree." It will save you some typing and it's MUCH more polite, not to mention accurate.
Second, I think most people mean "entertaining" when they say "fun" as that is truly what time sinks like EVE are for. They aren't supposed to reflect real life perfectly. They are supposed to give us enjoyment.
Third, Being a game created by a revenue driven company EVE has to entertain if it wants to make money for CCP.
Fourth, if EVE is a sandbox, there are bullies in that sandbox and most people don't like bullies and THAT is probably the biggest thing keeping people from subscribing to this game. Immersion and a feeling of fairness is difficult in a game where a guy can walk into your house, wreck your car, steal your stuff and maybe even kill you and then all he needs to do is get a lift home with your stuff because all the police did was wreck HIS car.
"Do unto others and then run" helped build EVE but it will likely be EVE's biggest stumbling block to blowout success if it is not handled more carefully. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2028
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:09:00 -
[95] - Quote
Akita T wrote:In EVE, they're just entertainment. GǪnot to mention very good and dependable repeat customers. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Velicitia
Open Designs
193
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:09:00 -
[96] - Quote
Vernn wrote:
So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
Assuming you're in Gallente space, the Goons have decided to launch a highly publicised incursion into Gallente space in an attempt to cripple their enemies' logistics. Gallente capships need the oxytopes to cyno around. If Oxytopes are too expensive to obtain, less cynoing of capships by the Goons' enemies.
Also, keep in mind that "he was in the damn belt" is a perfectly good reason for someone to shoot you, repeatedly. The devs do not consider this to be greifing, as the reasons could potentially be any of the following (note, completely made up by me...)
You're a damn botter You're in "his corp's" space You're mining "his" ice You're a damn botter You're supplying his enemies You're ruining his profits You're a damn moron for mining in Gallente space You're a damn botter He doesn't like your avatar's picture Your sister (in game) rejected him (If they ever get the multiplayer WiS working) you picked up that cute girl sitting in the corner he had his eyes on You caught the eye of one of his exotic dancers You're a damn botter
and there are probably loads of other reasons for you to get ganked. |

Vernn
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:09:00 -
[97] - Quote
Pesky LaRue wrote:Vernn wrote:Tippia wrote:Vernn wrote:So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? Did you miss that part of Gǣcampaign against ice minersGǥ? Have you noticed the existence of kill mails? Have you seen the Crime & Punishment subforum? Have you seen the ice market recently? Have you had a look at your own fittings and drops? There are roughly eighty bajillion reasons. GǪand your choice to offer yourself as a dependable and easy target for any and all of the above doesn't help. And how are any of those tangible benefits to them? THEY ARE GRIEFERS! Look me and you are just going to have to agree to disagree ok. Nuff said. Fair enough, but you DO realise you're agreeing to disagree with CCP, right? Tippia is simply relaying what they have previously said, not making these rules up. So....now what?
CCP is having financial trouble, their subscribers have been dropping, and the majority of their players hang out in high sec. Do the math. Maybe they should change some of their definitions.
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Monomorium
Mnemonic Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:11:00 -
[98] - Quote
Vernn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:From wikipedia.... Quote: A griefer is a player who does things in a game to deliberately cause annoyance ("grief" in the sense of "giving someone grief") for the griefer's own enjoyment. Such a player is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals. We are talking about griefing, plain and simple. The ganker gets nothing tangible from what he does. And ironically we can see that in eve there really are no "penalties related to in-game goals" for the gankers. That is a general (and in this case invalid) description of griefing. In EVE (as per the devs) suiciding is not ganking. Until you take some measure to avoid it, it is perfecting legitimate. Now, if he followed you around to many systems hunting you (and even then its grey) it could be considered griefing. But as you won't move, or take any measures to make him move, it isn't griefing. Just you being a moron. God... you make me want to go gank miners... and I'm a pacifist. EDIT: and there are penalties, you try it for months on end, see how much ISK you end up with. So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
From Websters online
Obtuse ... " ...2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression .... "
I myself don't like some of the hisec game mechanics, but FFS, buy a vowel, geta clue...something.. Because your constant shrill whining on this subject is now grown to the point of irritating someone - myself - who would normally be right with you on this subject.
Not because people can gank in hisec, but because of the silly game mechanics that are used/ allow it.
So either just let it go and ride off into the sunset or , I dunno, LEARN FROM YOUR FRIGGIN MISTAKES ! |

Vernn
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:12:00 -
[99] - Quote
Velicitia wrote:Vernn wrote:
So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
Assuming you're in Gallente space, the Goons have decided to launch a full scale incursion into Gallente space in an attempt to cripple their enemies' logistics. Gallente capships need the oxytopes to cyno around. If Oxytopes are too expensive to obtain, less cynoing of capships by the Goons' enemies. SO, the fact that you're sitting in an ice belt, in space that has a widely advertised attack on anyone found mining ice means that the ganker is doing it for a purpose. Also, keep in mind that "he was in the damn belt" is a perfectly good reason for someone to shoot you, repeatedly. The devs do not consider this to be greifing, as the reasons could potentially be any of the following (note, completely made up by me...) You're a damn botter You're in "his corp's" space You're mining "his" ice You're a damn botter You're supplying his enemies You're ruining his profits You're a damn moron for mining in Gallente space You're a damn botter He doesn't like your avatar's picture Your sister (in game) rejected him (If they ever get the multiplayer WiS working) you picked up that cute girl sitting in the corner he had his eyes on You caught the eye of one of his exotic dancers You're a damn botter and there are probably loads of other reasons for you to get ganked.
Again with moron. Didn't your mother's give you enough hugs growing up? Some of you people are just flat out vitriolic. |

Khamelean
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:12:00 -
[100] - Quote
Many years ago there was awesome 3D chat program called Quake. You could pick the colours of your avatar and enter an amazing 3D world with other plays and talk all day long.
One day I was in this really cool virtual space called DM6, just chatting away, when all of a sudden I got blown up by a rocket. I re-spawned and got shot in the face with a nail gun. I re-spawned again and I got zapped with a lightning gun.
I couldn't understand, here I was just standing around not interfering with anyone and they just wouldn't stop killing me over and over, no matter what I did.
What a fun story about and idiot who doesn't know what game he is playing.
FACT - Whenever you log in to eve online you issue a challenge to over 3 hundred thousand other people to try and kill you and take your stuff. If your don't like it, don't play Eve Online. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
87
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:13:00 -
[101] - Quote
Vernn wrote:Pesky LaRue wrote:Vernn wrote:Tippia wrote:Vernn wrote:So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? Did you miss that part of Gǣcampaign against ice minersGǥ? Have you noticed the existence of kill mails? Have you seen the Crime & Punishment subforum? Have you seen the ice market recently? Have you had a look at your own fittings and drops? There are roughly eighty bajillion reasons. GǪand your choice to offer yourself as a dependable and easy target for any and all of the above doesn't help. And how are any of those tangible benefits to them? THEY ARE GRIEFERS! Look me and you are just going to have to agree to disagree ok. Nuff said. Fair enough, but you DO realise you're agreeing to disagree with CCP, right? Tippia is simply relaying what they have previously said, not making these rules up. So....now what? CCP is having financial trouble, their subscribers have been dropping, and the majority of their players hang out in high sec. Do the math. Maybe they should change some of their definitions. Math says active player pop is up.
They don't publish subs any more... so no info on that afaik.
Also, while the majority of player may be in HS, the majority do not think what you think. A large number of HS players understand and live with the ganking mechanics. Some even take advantage of it by blowing up the ganker and forcing them to go somewhere else.
But that's just too hard for you, and of course, everyone should change the way they do things just for you. |

Vernn
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:13:00 -
[102] - Quote
Monomorium wrote:Vernn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:From wikipedia.... Quote: A griefer is a player who does things in a game to deliberately cause annoyance ("grief" in the sense of "giving someone grief") for the griefer's own enjoyment. Such a player is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals. We are talking about griefing, plain and simple. The ganker gets nothing tangible from what he does. And ironically we can see that in eve there really are no "penalties related to in-game goals" for the gankers. That is a general (and in this case invalid) description of griefing. In EVE (as per the devs) suiciding is not ganking. Until you take some measure to avoid it, it is perfecting legitimate. Now, if he followed you around to many systems hunting you (and even then its grey) it could be considered griefing. But as you won't move, or take any measures to make him move, it isn't griefing. Just you being a moron. God... you make me want to go gank miners... and I'm a pacifist. EDIT: and there are penalties, you try it for months on end, see how much ISK you end up with. So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that? From Websters online Obtuse ... " ...2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression .... " I myself don't like some of the hisec game mechanics, but FFS, buy a vowel, geta clue...something.. Because your constant shrill whining on this subject is now grown to the point of irritating someone - myself - who would normally be right with you on this subject. Not because people can gank in hisec, but because of the silly game mechanics that are used/ allow it. So either just let it go and ride off into the sunset or , I dunno, LEARN FROM YOUR FRIGGIN MISTAKES !
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2028
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:15:00 -
[103] - Quote
Vernn wrote:CCP is having financial trouble, their subscribers have been dropping, and the majority of their players hang out in high sec. Do the math. Maybe they should change some of their definitions. Ok.
They just released a patch which made the numbers shoot up again and which, among other things, contained a number of buffs and new ships that simplify matters for gankers. How's that for correlation/causation?  Maybe if you weren't so adept at providing illustration for the various words usedGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
87
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:16:00 -
[104] - Quote
Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
If you find that an insult, you have bigger problems than we all assumed...
Edit: said problems being you are a twit who thinks things should benefit them and only them |

Velicitia
Open Designs
193
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:18:00 -
[105] - Quote
Vernn wrote:Velicitia wrote:Vernn wrote:
So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
Assuming you're in Gallente space, the Goons have decided to launch a full scale incursion into Gallente space in an attempt to cripple their enemies' logistics. Gallente capships need the oxytopes to cyno around. If Oxytopes are too expensive to obtain, less cynoing of capships by the Goons' enemies. SO, the fact that you're sitting in an ice belt, in space that has a widely advertised attack on anyone found mining ice means that the ganker is doing it for a purpose. Also, keep in mind that "he was in the damn belt" is a perfectly good reason for someone to shoot you, repeatedly. The devs do not consider this to be greifing, as the reasons could potentially be any of the following (note, completely made up by me...) You're a damn botter You're in "his corp's" space You're mining "his" ice You're a damn botter You're supplying his enemies You're ruining his profits You're a damn moron for mining in Gallente space You're a damn botter He doesn't like your avatar's picture Your sister (in game) rejected him (If they ever get the multiplayer WiS working) you picked up that cute girl sitting in the corner he had his eyes on You caught the eye of one of his exotic dancers You're a damn botter and there are probably loads of other reasons for you to get ganked. Again with moron. Didn't your mother's give you enough hugs growing up? Some of you people are just flat out vitriolic.
called you a damn botter FOUR times, and you pick up on "you're a moron for ignoring the highly publicised gallente ice interdiction"...
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Vernn
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:18:00 -
[106] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
If you find that an insult, you have bigger problems than we all assumed...
And the hits just keep on coming. Please refrain from the insults. They accomplish nothing.
I don't see how the mechanics of ganking are beneficial in the whole to this game. They are a bad idea, they give way too much power to way too small of a segment of the population, and there are no real benefits for doing what the gankers do.
Those are my arguments and I'm sticking to them.
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
87
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:19:00 -
[107] - Quote
Velicitia wrote:Vernn wrote:Velicitia wrote:Vernn wrote:
So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
Assuming you're in Gallente space, the Goons have decided to launch a full scale incursion into Gallente space in an attempt to cripple their enemies' logistics. Gallente capships need the oxytopes to cyno around. If Oxytopes are too expensive to obtain, less cynoing of capships by the Goons' enemies. SO, the fact that you're sitting in an ice belt, in space that has a widely advertised attack on anyone found mining ice means that the ganker is doing it for a purpose. Also, keep in mind that "he was in the damn belt" is a perfectly good reason for someone to shoot you, repeatedly. The devs do not consider this to be greifing, as the reasons could potentially be any of the following (note, completely made up by me...) You're a damn botter You're in "his corp's" space You're mining "his" ice You're a damn botter You're supplying his enemies You're ruining his profits You're a damn moron for mining in Gallente space You're a damn botter He doesn't like your avatar's picture Your sister (in game) rejected him (If they ever get the multiplayer WiS working) you picked up that cute girl sitting in the corner he had his eyes on You caught the eye of one of his exotic dancers You're a damn botter and there are probably loads of other reasons for you to get ganked. Again with moron. Didn't your mother's give you enough hugs growing up? Some of you people are just flat out vitriolic. called you a damn botter FOUR times, and you pick up on "you're a moron for ignoring the highly publicised gallente ice interdiction"... 

I personally liked the "Your sister rejected him" one. |

Vernn
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:20:00 -
[108] - Quote
Velicitia wrote:Vernn wrote:Velicitia wrote:Vernn wrote:
So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
Assuming you're in Gallente space, the Goons have decided to launch a full scale incursion into Gallente space in an attempt to cripple their enemies' logistics. Gallente capships need the oxytopes to cyno around. If Oxytopes are too expensive to obtain, less cynoing of capships by the Goons' enemies. SO, the fact that you're sitting in an ice belt, in space that has a widely advertised attack on anyone found mining ice means that the ganker is doing it for a purpose. Also, keep in mind that "he was in the damn belt" is a perfectly good reason for someone to shoot you, repeatedly. The devs do not consider this to be greifing, as the reasons could potentially be any of the following (note, completely made up by me...) You're a damn botter You're in "his corp's" space You're mining "his" ice You're a damn botter You're supplying his enemies You're ruining his profits You're a damn moron for mining in Gallente space You're a damn botter He doesn't like your avatar's picture Your sister (in game) rejected him (If they ever get the multiplayer WiS working) you picked up that cute girl sitting in the corner he had his eyes on You caught the eye of one of his exotic dancers You're a damn botter and there are probably loads of other reasons for you to get ganked. Again with moron. Didn't your mother's give you enough hugs growing up? Some of you people are just flat out vitriolic. called you a damn botter FOUR times, and you pick up on "you're a moron for ignoring the highly publicised gallente ice interdiction"... 
I was going to assure you that I'm not a botter, but there is no way to prove anything, so why say anything? |

Velicitia
Open Designs
193
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:22:00 -
[109] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote: I personally liked the "Your sister rejected him" one.
ooh!
OP picked up the ganker's sister in a bar and broke her heart!
/thread
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Vernn
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:23:00 -
[110] - Quote
You know I'm beginning to get the feeling that I AM talking to the gankers. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1042
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:23:00 -
[111] - Quote
Hey there Vernn!
Mining blue ice is currently illegal but you are welcome to mine any other type of ice. If you had spent as much time moving a few systems over and mining a different type of ice as you did whining here you could have made hundreds of isk by now.
If, on the other hand, you simply must mine blue ice there are several miner protection plans available from any Goonswarm Federation members you see in local. Send a PM to one of them and they will get you on the list of approved miners right away after you take care of the fees. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
87
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:23:00 -
[112] - Quote
Vernn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
If you find that an insult, you have bigger problems than we all assumed... And the hits just keep on coming. Please refrain from the insults. They accomplish nothing. I don't see how the mechanics of ganking are beneficial in the whole to this game. They are a bad idea, they give way too much power to way too small of a segment of the population, and there are no real benefits for doing what the gankers do. Those are my arguments and I'm sticking to them. I wasn't insulting you. Just making a statement. Usually, finding insults where none were meant is a sign of mental instability. Or an inflated ego...
The gankers benefit from their gankign (usually, unless someone takes action against them and repeatedly pops them as they undock... but that would be too much work ). This is a game of self preservation, of looking out for number one. The gankers are (and I can't believe I am saying this) playing EVE in its truest sense.
Just because you cannot see their benefit, doesn't mean no benefit exists. A blind man cannot see his pizza, but it sure is there. |

Monomorium
Mnemonic Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:24:00 -
[113] - Quote
Vernn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
If you find that an insult, you have bigger problems than we all assumed... And the hits just keep on coming. Please refrain from the insults. They accomplish nothing. I don't see how the mechanics of ganking are beneficial in the whole to this game. They are a bad idea, they give way too much power to way too small of a segment of the population, and there are no real benefits for doing what the gankers do. Those are my arguments and I'm sticking to them.
From Websters online
Obtuse ... " ...2 a: lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid
b: difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression .... "
The prosecution rests.... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2035
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:24:00 -
[114] - Quote
Vernn wrote:I don't see how the mechanics of ganking are beneficial in the whole to this game. It generates demand for ships and modules; it generates a supply of certain materials; it provides a method to take out competition; it provides a method to take out targets that hide behind various safety mechanics. All of it is good.
Quote:and there are no real benefits for doing what the gankers do.
Those are my arguments and I'm sticking to them. So basically, your argument is that you refuse to learn, you refuse to read, and you refuse to understand GÇö after all, these things have been explained to you over and over (and over) by now, and you're still ignorant about the facts GÇö and because of your refusal, the game should change to match your ignorance. Good luck with that one.
Your arguments are not related to EVE so they are utterly irrelevant to this forum. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

M5 Tuttle
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:24:00 -
[115] - Quote
Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
1) Be unable to cope with game mechanics. 2) Go on forums and complain. 3) Everyone explains how you could just play a little differently (mine elsewhere, set a trap for gankers, fight back, find another source of income until hulkageddon is over) 4) Refuse to change your position, ignore their advice and explanations, say the same thing over and over again. 5) Eventually they get pissed off at your intransigence and start calling you names. 6) Now you congratulate them on losing the debate because they resorted to name calling. 7) ??? 8) Profit.
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Khamelean
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:24:00 -
[116] - Quote
Vernn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
If you find that an insult, you have bigger problems than we all assumed... And the hits just keep on coming. Please refrain from the insults. They accomplish nothing. I don't see how the mechanics of ganking are beneficial in the whole to this game. They are a bad idea, they give way too much power to way too small of a segment of the population, and there are no real benefits for doing what the gankers do. Those are my arguments and I'm sticking to them.
So you primary argument is that you don't understand? |

Velicitia
Open Designs
193
|
Posted - 2011.12.13 04:25:00 -
[117] - Quote
20m SP in industry, and Elite Harvesting certificates here (also, Elite Hull Tanking for the lulz). pretty **** in combat ships, TBH. pretty **** at not getting ganked too... but I roll with the punches.
would hardly say that I am a "ganker". (just don't ask the Veldspar). |

Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:26:00 -
[118] - Quote
Nullbeard Rager wrote:Zions Child wrote:Vernn wrote:Andski wrote:Solutions:
1) Don't mine in Gallente high-sec space you moron 2) Stop being complacent and playing under the assumption that CONCORD is there to protect you from the big mean gankers, they're not. 3) The guy locking you didn't miss the rock/ice/whatever, he's probably scanning you. That's the first sign of trouble.
By the way, -10 characters don't get popped by CONCORD until they get a GCC. The faction navies chase them around, and they're very different from CONCORD (you can tank/evade/pop them) 1) I have a degree in electrical engineering. I hardly feel that calling me a moron is justified. But if it makes you feel like a big person, then I don't mind. Do they mass produce arrogant idiots who wave around degrees with no sort of verification on the internet in a vain attempt to appear intelligent and worthy of respect? Because seriously, you're the second one I've found today. You aren't the only person with a college degree, and a college degree hardly verifies your intellect or your common sense. To say the least of you making such a claim on the internets, which we all know are filled to bursting with truth. Looks like they produced massed arrogant idiots that put other people down in a vain attempt to appear intelligent and worthy of respect. Perhaps if you had a degree you might see the irony there.  EDIT: Damnit in second... 
Do people like you actually read the posts you make? Because they're pretty depressingly stupid. |

First Lieutenant Dan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:26:00 -
[119] - Quote
Even with me pointing out obvious? 9/10 |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
87
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:26:00 -
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Vernn wrote:You know I'm beginning to get the feeling that I AM talking to the gankers. Well, I doubt Tippia is a ganker (don't even knwo if he plays or just hunts through the forums).
And I'm not. Tried it a year ago along with some friends, trying to find bots. Ganking just happened to be the most effective detection method. But it was not for me.
I have been ganked though. Once in a mission (was not fun losing a faction fit BC...). And once in a salvage fit frigate by someone in a Zealot... I'm still chuckling at that one. |
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