No, i'm not crying about general unfairness in all of eve. I am commenting on a very specific situation that defies logic.

Follow me here.

I get the fact that eve is not a carebear game. I do. I am not crying about being blown up. It happens. I am not complaining about the fact that people can suicide gank. If someone wrongs you bad enough you should be able to suicide gank, with a real consequence.

My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec.

Yes, I get it. The very nature of eve dictates that you're never truly safe anywhere, and I appreciate the heart pounding moments that can bring to the game. I am not against suicide ganking.

I am against a player with a -10 security rating killing the same people in the same spot over and over again in high sec without any penalty other than losing a ship with almost no value.

I think its a pretty narrow and reasonable complaint.

No, i'm not crying about general unfairness in all of eve. I am commenting on a very specific situation that defies logic.

Follow me here.

I get the fact that eve is not a carebear game. I do. I am not crying about being blown up. It happens. I am not complaining about the fact that people can suicide gank. If someone wrongs you bad enough you should be able to suicide gank, with a real consequence.

My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec.

Yes, I get it. The very nature of eve dictates that you're never truly safe anywhere, and I appreciate the heart pounding moments that can bring to the game. I am not against suicide ganking.

I am against a player with a -10 security rating killing the same people in the same spot over and over again in high sec without any penalty other than losing a ship with almost no value.

I think its a pretty narrow and reasonable complaint.

If the person is stupid enough to sit in the same spot over and over again, making him the easiest target ever, why shouldn't someone be able to keep killing him there?

Why not?

If the person is stupid enough to sit in the same spot over and over again, making him the easiest target ever, why shouldn't someone be able to keep killing him there?

So enforce the other penalties that this act generates GÇö they're yours to enforce for a reasonGǪ

"High Security" doesn't mean "safe" in EVE. Accept that and we'll continue the discussion.

Do they mass produce arrogant idiots who wave around degrees with no sort of verification on the internet in a vain attempt to appear intelligent and worthy of respect? Because seriously, you're the second one I've found today. You aren't the only person with a college degree, and a college degree hardly verifies your intellect or your common sense. To say the least of you making such a claim on the internets, which we all know are filled to bursting with truth.

Tippia, we are at the point where you may as well just come out and say what you want. You want all of the game to be 0.0 don't you?

I will never understand why the pirate types despise high sec so much.

It is HIGH SEC Tippia.

Its so sad. Eve could be such a great game.

Its griefing, everyone knows it. Its totally obvious, but I doubt anything will ever be done about it.

Its so sad. Eve could be such a great game. It really could, but stuff like this just ruins the whole thing and leaves a bad taste in the average players mouth.

Its griefing, everyone knows it. Its totally obvious, but I doubt anything will ever be done about it.

I guess I'll come back in another couple years when the number of people logging on is down to 20k, and maybe they will be ready to put some sanity into the game.

Its so sad. Eve could be such a great game. It really could, but stuff like this just ruins the whole thing and leaves a bad taste in the average players mouth.

Its griefing, everyone knows it. Its totally obvious, but I doubt anything will ever be done about it.

I guess I'll come back in another couple years when the number of people logging on is down to 20k, and maybe they will be ready to put some sanity into the game.

No, i'm not crying about general unfairness in all of eve. I am commenting on a very specific situation that defies logic.

Follow me here.

I get the fact that eve is not a carebear game. I do. I am not crying about being blown up. It happens. I am not complaining about the fact that people can suicide gank. If someone wrongs you bad enough you should be able to suicide gank, with a real consequence.

My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec.

Yes, I get it. The very nature of eve dictates that you're never truly safe anywhere, and I appreciate the heart pounding moments that can bring to the game. I am not against suicide ganking.

I am against a player with a -10 security rating killing the same people in the same spot over and over again in high sec without any penalty other than losing a ship with almost no value.

I think its a pretty narrow and reasonable complaint.

This apparently is a pointless discussion. This is a game, its supposed to be fun. I don't consider someone attacking me repeatedly with no consequence to them to be fun.

Clearly there are greener pastures for me elsewhere.

you understand that the fact that they are in high sec with -10 sec status means that you and anyone else can attack them without getting concorded, right? how is that not enough for you?

Its so sad. Eve could be such a great game. It really could, but stuff like this just ruins the whole thing and leaves a bad taste in the average players mouth.

Its griefing, everyone knows it. Its totally obvious, but I doubt anything will ever be done about it.

I guess I'll come back in another couple years when the number of people logging on is down to 20k, and maybe they will be ready to put some sanity into the game.

This apparently is a pointless discussion. This is a game, its supposed to be fun. I don't consider someone attacking me repeatedly with no consequence to them to be fun.

Clearly there are greener pastures for me elsewhere.

This apparently is a pointless discussion. This is a game, its supposed to be fun. I don't consider someone attacking me repeatedly with no consequence to them to be fun.

Clearly there are greener pastures for me elsewhere.

1) I can't attack them when they are sitting in a station.

2) Why would I attack them if they are flying a kestrel? The bullets I would shoot could potentially be worth more than their ship. They are griefers. They will not risk anything real. Thats why they do what they do. They are taking advantage of the games mechanics to inflict harm to others. If they had to pay a real price for what they were doing, they wouldn't do it.

Maybe there are. EVE is not for everyone. Altho 80 percent of EVE population living in high-sec kind of gives away the fact that it is indeed high security.

You just had a bad luck, bad day and bitter experience.

This apparently is a pointless discussion. This is a game, its supposed to be fun. I don't consider someone attacking me repeatedly with no consequence to them to be fun.

Why would I attack them if they are flying a kestrel?

They are taking advantage of the games mechanics to inflict harm to others.

If I go into an ice belt in a barge to mine, I can get ganked repeatedly by someone with a -10 security status?

Someone who is supposed to be insta killed by concord can somehow warp to me and kill me over and over again in practically free ships?

I have no problem whatsoever with being ganked, so long as they take the security hit, and after several times concord instagibs them. Keeps the game fun having to pay attention for stuff like that.

However are you seriously telling me that this game has come to the point where I can lose multimillion isk ships in high sec to someone who has -10 sec rating over and over again?

Really?


*stunned*

1) I can't attack them when they are sitting in a station.

2) Why would I attack them if they are flying a kestrel? The bullets I would shoot could potentially be worth more than their ship. They are griefers. They will not risk anything real. Thats why they do what they do. They are taking advantage of the games mechanics to inflict harm to others. If they had to pay a real price for what they were doing, they wouldn't do it.

1) how are they killing you from the station?

2) they should be easy to kill then.

Pop him every time he leaves the station for 3 days. He will move. Find someplace more fun.

And there isn't a single ammo in the game that at average market price is worth more than a fit frigate. maybe a few hundred rounds, sure. but a cruiser can pop a frig in about 5 shots easy. Especially because gankers don't fit tank (usually).

My guess is he undocks, scans for me, sees my ship type (not sure what info scanning gives) warps to me and kills me. If I was sitting in a shuttle in the system I'm sure he would never show up.