Well that is a bit exaggerated isn't it? I mean you can always just gank the bumper, they have a lot less EHP than an Orca. As someone else already mentioned in this thread:

We could just delay concord and facpo by 20 seconds if that's what you want.

That reminds me, when is CCP announcing the corresponding buff to ganking?

A compression module for the Orca would be nice, having to dock it up every 16 or 17 minutes to empty it or have a freighter on standby (especially in lowsec), pretty much defeats its ongrid role.

Suggestion; Highslot module, lowsec/nulsec activation only, 300 Heavy water to activate (reduces by 25% per lvl Capital Industrial Ships) 60 second activation time, no auto repeat. Works just like its Rorqual counterpart by immobilizing the Orca for the duration of the cycle (has a nice clear animation so everyone nearby can see it is active)

Is 17 minutes factoring in the increased orehold?

I'd prefer a deployable and non-scoopable mobile compressor. (consumables are good for business). Which would also give soloist potential usage if it was small enough in cargo. Destoryable similar to the mobile tractor - so agressors can get action. If it was scoopable, then a compression loss at 1 in 6.

At a price point of 700M isk, I feel like this ship gives a lot for the cost/risk.

I am always puzzled when i see people type afk miners.....

You need to target and assign drones/strips to the roids. This cannot be automated, unless you want your account banned. most high sec roids are quit small and eaten in minuted by a hulk or mack....so walking away and eating a belt is simply not happening, unless you are a bot or using illegal software.

Wrong. Those of us with multiple accounts and have mined for a decade will still only field one at a time with the mining ships. People will be poaching, so you have to make your losses acceptable when the inevitable cyno is lit and you are dropped. People are far more organized than these boards realize. I promise you a well fit T3 will still blow these up no problem.

According to http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Timers#Remote_assistance and my understanding of the remote repair mechanics the orca pilot would get a concord suspect flag (yellow blinky) if they perform remote repair on a fleet member that has been attacked by another player in hisec triggering concord criminal (red blinky).

Saying it another way: Player A is piloting an orca in hisec with Player B piloting a retriever when Player C arrives in a catalyst. None of them have any timers yet. Player C then attacks Player B triggering concord response and a concord criminal (red blinky) flag on Player C. Player B is taking damage (but not dead yet) and has a Capsuleer Log-Off Timer and I believe a Limited Engagement Timer with Player C. If Player A has remote repair modules fitted and activates them on Player B (requiring a safety setting of yellow) then I believe Player A will inherit the Capsuleer Log-Off Timer, the Limited Engagement Timer with Player C and I think Player A will also get a concord suspect timer (yellow blinky).

Am I correct in my understanding?

What about the new boost mechanism? How will it interact with the existing timer system? If in my example Player A did not use remote repair modules at all but instead hit Player B with a boost pulse/tick would Player A inherit the timers or not?

Not sure if it has been answered - remote assist modules don't require sefty settings to be anything but green. And when it fleet, if one party member is attacked everyone in fleet has the right to attack. But if I understand it right concord is only flagged for the original hostile action.

It will come down to playing a game of suspect timers to keep Conrod from aggressing the aggressor

You have obviously never done ice mining, where you turn on your harvesters and leave it for half an hour, because each iceteroid has 100-130(ish) units of ice in it. And hey look, new ice mining drones! An orca will be able to sit there til the iceteroid simply vanishes, and still have room to eat another one.

Orcas are very easy to bump. And I see they made the align even worse, by quite a lot. A few bumpers could knock any orcas out of the belt very quickly.

Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 60 / 0.26 (+0.1) / 150,000,000 (-100,000,000) / 54.07s (-1.38)

lol a easy fix to increase yield is to have the orca follow the edge of the belt. mining the roids as it slowly goes forem one side to the other.

I LOVE THE NEW ORCA!

For anyone who has not checked, 800DPS is with 'Augmented' Hammerheads and 2 Officer DDAs

For anyone who has not checked, 800DPS is with 'Augmented' Hammerheads and 2 Officer DDAs

If the gankers are crying then its a good change. +1 CCP

These new Orcas are so ridicluous that I can tell you now that they will be bumped out of belts on a constant basis. Due to boosts now required to be within 45km to be received it will be very easy to keep anyone using these new Orcas as a booster/hauler/miner (bloody ridiculous) from being of any use at all.

If bumped away the new Orca can't mine, can't boost, and can't haul. That's the one counter to this new ridiculous booster/super hauler/miner all in one. It's not ganker tears we're going to see, it's going to be miner tears galore.

No it's already beaten. The orca pilot can just dump and anchor a dozen GSC in a sphere around the ship forming a cage. No bumping put. What's the next plan?

No it's already beaten. The orca pilot can just dump and anchor a dozen GSC in a sphere around the ship forming a cage. No bumping put. What's the next plan?

Missions is a relatively easy fix, just remove there gate access, although it'll make mission miners sad I assume.