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Mamba Lev Masturbating Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.12.01 16:00:00 - [5101] I'd rather be racist than a Minmatar..
Doctor Steinsbrow Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.01 17:09:00 - [5102] The sexual nature of this is inescapable \|\<o>/\| \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\| \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\| \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\| \\|CCP\|/ -\|\|\|\|\|\|\|- -\|\|\|\|\|\|\|- ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY ~~WALK~~ WARP INTO ~~MORDOR~~ J7HZ-F!
Th3 Accursed	Posted - 2010.12.01 17:30:00 - [5103] Hi, There seems to be a problem with the calculations using ship sensor strength mods. Not saying its EFT but im getting different results to what im seeing in game. Im flying a legion with a set of Low Grade Grail implants slots 1-6, 2x Conjunctive Radar ECCM's and 3x Warded Radar Backup Clusters in lows. EFT shows this to have 131 sensor strength with everything turned on but in game i only get a total of 42! As you probabaly guessed the idea was to be near unscannable as possible but the ingame results are nowhere near this.....wonder if CCP have nerfed it? Ive checked and double checked mods skills etc but i cant see what the difference is, the base is pretty much the same with just the grail implants but when mods are used ingame they dont seem to be adding anywhere near what they should so im going to file a petition and see what CCP say. Any help would be useful Accursed
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill	Posted - 2010.12.01 17:35:00 - [5104] lg eccm mods are bugged, they're using some crazy formula which cannot be understood by average human. Just consider fact that full lg eccm gives +7 on malediction and +6 on sentinel. Bug is open in ccp's tracker for a long time (year? Or two?), but no avail. _____ EVE Fit
Pharos Pharos	Posted - 2010.12.01 18:30:00 - [5105] I'm pretty sure there's a known bug where sensor-strength implants don't work with the t3 sensor strength subsystems. :ccp:
Zilabeth Vomarr	Posted - 2010.12.01 18:53:00 - [5106] Edited by: Zilabeth Vomarr on 01/12/2010 18:54:48 Gripen, With the release of the new configuration files for Incursion 1.0 is there any chance we could get the ship types in the Ship Browser to be listed alphabetically rather that how ever it is they are now? The ships themselves are already listed that way within type. Otherwise, EFT is both super and duper! Please keep up the good work!
Ji'txi Mu'rah	Posted - 2010.12.01 19:09:00 - [5107] Originally by: Vilhelm Murderface Originally by: De'Vadder Originally by: Ji'txi Mu'rah When calculating dps, the bonus from the pilgrim, curse and arbitrator (maybe other ships) to drone damage does not carry across in the calculations, and is not a skill that affects the drones if you right click on them in the setup for one of these ships. Is it possible to get this added in? Thanks! It clearly works for me, both. Guarantee you he's changing cruiser level and not seeing it change DPS without realising that any prerequisite skills are hard coded as base stats for the ship. Ah, I see, but with the arbitrator you don't need amarr cruiser 5, just 2, so going 2 -> 5 should increase drone damage, no?
Th3 Accursed	Posted - 2010.12.01 19:43:00 - [5108] Originally by: Pharos Pharos I'm pretty sure there's a known bug where sensor-strength implants don't work with the t3 sensor strength subsystems. :ccp: Im not using the sensor strength subsystem, just implants and ship mods. Seems a very long way off what it should be in game, ive filed a petition so we'll see if ccp has an explaination
steave435 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.12.01 21:17:00 - [5109] Originally by: Th3 Accursed Originally by: Pharos Pharos I'm pretty sure there's a known bug where sensor-strength implants don't work with the t3 sensor strength subsystems. :ccp: Im not using the sensor strength subsystem, just implants and ship mods. Seems a very long way off what it should be in game, ive filed a petition so we'll see if ccp has an explaination Yeah, it's bugged with T3s and low grades no matter what subs it uses. I had the same problem with my Loki. Try petitioning it if the Legions was the reason you bought the implants.
Avzool	Posted - 2010.12.02 01:52:00 - [5110] There was a problem with he LG grail set and the way eccm was working with the implants. The eccm was applying the percentages to the 7 sensor strength of the implants instead of the overall sensor strength of the ship. They fixed it and should be working now, unless they broke it again with the incursion patch. Also noticed that EFT says the ship skill plays into the sensor strength instead of the subsystem skill.

VIP Ares Minmatar BALKAN EXPRESS B A L E X	Posted - 2010.12.02 09:28:00 - [5111] Is version with Noctis coming any time soon?
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill	Posted - 2010.12.02 09:31:00 - [5112] Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 02/12/2010 09:31:29 At least they didn't fix it properly. Here's dump of bug which is still open in their tracker: link _____ EVE Fit
Marshok	Posted - 2010.12.02 11:28:00 - [5113] Any chance the modifications from the latest patch are implemented in EFT any time soon? Cheers
Doddy Burning Vendetta	Posted - 2010.12.02 17:35:00 - [5114] Originally by: Marshok Any chance the modifications from the latest patch are implemented in EFT any time soon? Cheers I am sure he hadn't noticed it, but now that you posted he will get on it straight away.
Valgarth VanGraaf	Posted - 2010.12.03 10:00:00 - [5115] Hi there. I just downloaded the latest version of EFT in order to try it out, but i got some major problems with it. Mostly all the values shown in EFT differ from what is shown in EVE. I bought a GRIFFIN and compared the EFT-shown values ingame. Without my char imported via API, EFT tells me the Griffin has got 1.160 effective HP. EVE says: 1.056 effective HP. With char imported EFT says: effective HP = 1.334 Yesterday i fitted my Harbinger with EFT and got some 45.000 effective HP. After fitting the modules ingame it was just around 31.000 HP. Now i deleted all EFT files twice, downloaded EFT twice, imported my Skills several times and finally set up my skills manually, but the problem still exists. Any ideas what my mistake is ?? THX so far, Val
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2010.12.03 10:16:00 - [5116] Originally by: Valgarth VanGraaf Hi there. I just downloaded the latest version of EFT in order to try it out, but i got some major problems with it. Mostly all the values shown in EFT differ from what is shown in EVE. I bought a GRIFFIN and compared the EFT-shown values ingame. Without my char imported via API, EFT tells me the Griffin has got 1.160 effective HP. EVE says: 1.056 effective HP. With char imported EFT says: effective HP = 1.334 Yesterday i fitted my Harbinger with EFT and got some 45.000 effective HP. After fitting the modules ingame it was just around 31.000 HP. Now i deleted all EFT files twice, downloaded EFT twice, imported my Skills several times and finally set up my skills manually, but the problem still exists. Any ideas what my mistake is ?? THX so far, Val I know noone ever uses searches on the interwebs, but I reckon you could find something like: EvE calculates EHP solely based on the lowest resistance, while EFT calculates EHP based on the damage profile you put in, which by default is omni (25% each damage type) which will always lead to higher EHP in EFT until you put in damage profiles that are 100% your weakest resistance. Ignore me Drone Guide EON 21 & 22
Xentara Vispari	Posted - 2010.12.03 10:18:00 - [5117] Quote: Now i deleted all EFT files twice, downloaded EFT twice, imported my Skills several times and finally set up my skills manually, but the problem still exists. Any ideas what my mistake is ?? EFT and the in-game fitting window use different ways to calculate EHP. Afaik the in-game fitting window uses the weakest resist while EFT uses an omni damge profile.
Alex Kichinidze	Posted - 2010.12.03 14:00:00 - [5118] Edited by: Alex Kichinidze on 03/12/2010 14:00:39 I would like to invite to sign loaded at startup ships, bonus ships, for example. ps thanks for the program - very helpful
Riffman	Posted - 2010.12.03 14:16:00 - [5119] Originally by: Doddy Originally by: Marshok Any chance the modifications from the latest patch are implemented in EFT any time soon? Cheers I am sure he hadn't noticed it, but now that you posted he will get on it straight away. Ha Ha Ha Doddy you made me spit my tea all over the keyboard laughing
Kaivaja	Posted - 2010.12.03 14:45:00 - [5120] Originally by: Th3 Accursed Im flying a legion with a set of Low Grade Grail implants slots 1-6, 2x Conjunctive Radar ECCM's and 3x Warded Radar Backup Clusters in lows. EFT shows this to have 131 sensor strength with everything turned on but in game i only get a total of 42! Err.. mid slot ECCM modules are activated modules, just like MWD's or shield boosters. Those numbers sure sound like you didn't activate the modules ingame.

Gabrielle d'Elis Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2010.12.03 15:49:00 - [5121] For anyone wanting an up-to-date EFT-like application, try the Python Fighting Assistant here, it has Noctis and the new ammo changes in: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1424096 ___ -_-
Doddy Burning Vendetta	Posted - 2010.12.03 18:40:00 - [5122] Originally by: Keitaro Baka Originally by: Valgarth VanGraaf Hi there. I just downloaded the latest version of EFT in order to try it out, but i got some major problems with it. Mostly all the values shown in EFT differ from what is shown in EVE. I bought a GRIFFIN and compared the EFT-shown values ingame. Without my char imported via API, EFT tells me the Griffin has got 1.160 effective HP. EVE says: 1.056 effective HP. With char imported EFT says: effective HP = 1.334 Yesterday i fitted my Harbinger with EFT and got some 45.000 effective HP. After fitting the modules ingame it was just around 31.000 HP. Now i deleted all EFT files twice, downloaded EFT twice, imported my Skills several times and finally set up my skills manually, but the problem still exists. Any ideas what my mistake is ?? THX so far, Val I know noone ever uses searches on the interwebs, but I reckon you could find something like: EvE calculates EHP solely based on the lowest resistance, while EFT calculates EHP based on the damage profile you put in, which by default is omni (25% each damage type) which will always lead to higher EHP in EFT until you put in damage profiles that are 100% your weakest resistance. More likely is the fact that the fitter in game doesn't apply stats for mods that are not active (i.e. hardners and damage control).
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.03 18:46:00 - [5123] Originally by: Doddy Originally by: Keitaro Baka I know noone ever uses searches on the interwebs, but I reckon you could find something like: EvE calculates EHP solely based on the lowest resistance, while EFT calculates EHP based on the damage profile you put in, which by default is omni (25% each damage type) which will always lead to higher EHP in EFT until you put in damage profiles that are 100% your weakest resistance. More likely is the fact that the fitter in game doesn't apply stats for mods that are not active (i.e. hardners and damage control). No, actually it's the damage profiles. But thinking you're smarter than others is cool too. - I troll stupid people.
Ziaxi	Posted - 2010.12.03 19:07:00 - [5124] From the FAQ.txt in your EFT folder: Q: What is Effective hitpoints and why this value differs from effective hp shown in ingame fitting screen? A: Effective hitpoints is an amount of damage required to break through given shield, armor and structure buffers with their respecive resistances. By default EFT uses average resistance while ingame effective hps calculated using lowest resistance.
steave435 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:22:00 - [5125] Originally by: William Cooly Originally by: Doddy Originally by: Keitaro Baka I know noone ever uses searches on the interwebs, but I reckon you could find something like: EvE calculates EHP solely based on the lowest resistance, while EFT calculates EHP based on the damage profile you put in, which by default is omni (25% each damage type) which will always lead to higher EHP in EFT until you put in damage profiles that are 100% your weakest resistance. More likely is the fact that the fitter in game doesn't apply stats for mods that are not active (i.e. hardners and damage control). No, actually it's the damage profiles. But thinking you're smarter than others is cool too. Actually, it's both. In game fitting won't include resists from mods that are currently not running, which further increase the difference between EFT and in game fitting.
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:42:00 - [5126] Originally by: steave435 Actually, it's both. In game fitting won't include resists from mods that are currently not running, which further increase the difference between EFT and in game fitting. But hey, at least you've found a way to say we're all wrong and you're right eh? We're assuming all active mods are on, as that would have been the first things someone would have tried. - I troll stupid people.
steave435 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.12.03 23:31:00 - [5127] Originally by: William Cooly Originally by: steave435 Actually, it's both. In game fitting won't include resists from mods that are currently not running, which further increase the difference between EFT and in game fitting. But hey, at least you've found a way to say we're all wrong and you're right eh? We're assuming all active mods are on, as that would have been the first things someone would have tried. No, both of you are right.
Croem	Posted - 2010.12.04 03:00:00 - [5128] A quick thank you for keeping the program going for so long. It really does help play with ideas.
Turrican Baptism oF Fire Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2010.12.04 11:47:00 - [5129] <Insert several dozen Incursion update requests here> PS: Nice App, keep up the good work :)
Sp1iff Minmatar 4 wing Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2010.12.04 12:02:00 - [5130] is the new version for incursion out yet? where can i get it (original post says its not been edited since August? thanks



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