Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Desync played a major part in the first engagement. Respect for bringing the numbers, but I will not concede the loss of this battle to your skill. It was massive lag, and desync. By the time our forces loaded, you held the gate firmly, and the bubbles were killed. Your snipers also had time to warp to snipespots so one would assume that your lag/desync was minimal while we sustained the brunt of it.

Nonetheless thanks for the fight.

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Originally by: Kharl Pax

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Edited by: Kharl Pax on 25/07/2007 03:18:50

Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Desync played a major part in the first engagement. Respect for bringing the numbers, but I will not concede the loss of this battle to your skill. It was massive lag, and desync. By the time our forces loaded, you held the gate firmly, and the bubbles were killed. Your snipers also had time to warp to snipespots so one would assume that your lag/desync was minimal while we sustained the brunt of it.

Nonetheless thanks for the fight.

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I didn't manage to load the system at all, by the time I started seeing people the fight was over, so I can't see how you can complain when we were jumping in to you.

Edit: The POS fight was fun though :)

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Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Desync played a major part in the first engagement. Respect for bringing the numbers, but I will not concede the loss of this battle to your skill. It was massive lag, and desync. By the time our forces loaded, you held the gate firmly, and the bubbles were killed. Your snipers also had time to warp to snipespots so one would assume that your lag/desync was minimal while we sustained the brunt of it.

Nonetheless thanks for the fight.

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firmly believe i deserve a first page spot and i will reserve this till i have a decent thing to say,,,, :))gimme 10 minutes pls gheheh

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Originally by: Desiderious

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The first fight was a bad fight, complete slaughter due to the dam desynch. You guys may have gotten lag but desynch favors those who jump in, and boy did it show. Hell out of the 3 gangs there 2 couldn't even call primaries, and 1 was barely able to do that.

The second fight, ill give it to you, was a good fight.

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Originally by: Desiderious

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The first fight was a bad fight, complete slaughter due to the dam desynch. You guys may have gotten lag but desynch favors those who jump in, and boy did it show. Hell out of the 3 gangs there 2 couldn't even call primaries, and 1 was barely able to do that.

The second fight, ill give it to you, was a good fight.

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Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Desync played a major part in the first engagement. Respect for bringing the numbers, but I will not concede the loss of this battle to your skill. It was massive lag, and desync. By the time our forces loaded, you held the gate firmly, and the bubbles were killed. Your snipers also had time to warp to snipespots so one would assume that your lag/desync was minimal while we sustained the brunt of it.

Nonetheless thanks for the fight.

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Originally by: Swirler

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Good try SPARTA, ya got blob-ganked, that's all there is to it.

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Originally by: Swirler

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Good try SPARTA, ya got blob-ganked, that's all there is to it.

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What really sucks is that Epic efforts between fleets like Sparta-and-friends and TRI-and-friends will forever be in doubt

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Originally by: Sith Bandon

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desync everyone had it.

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Originally by: Altair Mogwa

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Edited by: Altair Mogwa on 25/07/2007 04:53:33
Edited by: Altair Mogwa on 25/07/2007 04:44:51
You just 1 day napped people for help, you have no place to EVER make comments about napping people around you. Some are for long term politics, yours was more a hired gun.

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Originally by: Arthur Guinness

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Since you guys can't accept defeat, I'll play along.

We are mini-BoB. We have devs as FC's and we DO NOT get lag or Desync. Our victories are completely a farce.

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Originally by: Super Twinkey69

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lag was bad-evry1 had it dont say they didnt-your angry cuz u lost a lot tonight,understandable,i would be too but ffs get over it-the alliances out here have done everything in their power to stop TRI and despite that we kept comeing we fought outnumbered on soooo many engagements its ridiculous.tbh you and your allies(what ever remains of them after they met us) have had every oppertunity to succeede and win eve or w/e so stop crying. as far as MM/RzR and co props to them for wanting to put past aside and accomplish a common goal,as said it was a temporary nap to do what we needed,2mrw TRI shoots EVERYBODY again so maybe insted of complaining bout how your 200 man gang of like 30 bs and the rest support failed to save what little hope your alliance had of continueing-form a gang,come find us-have fun ffs,its what you pay for not all this complaining and whineing(call that smack if you like cuz if u whine like a baby your guna get treated like one)

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Originally by: Xaeon

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Originally by: Super Twinkey69

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lag was bad-evry1 had it dont say they didnt-your angry cuz u lost a lot tonight,understandable,i would be too but ffs get over it-the alliances out here have done everything in their power to stop TRI and despite that we kept comeing we fought outnumbered on soooo many engagements its ridiculous.tbh you and your allies(what ever remains of them after they met us) have had every oppertunity to succeede and win eve or w/e so stop crying. as far as MM/RzR and co props to them for wanting to put past aside and accomplish a common goal,as said it was a temporary nap to do what we needed,2mrw TRI shoots EVERYBODY again so maybe insted of complaining bout how your 200 man gang of like 30 bs and the rest support failed to save what little hope your alliance had of continueing-form a gang,come find us-have fun ffs,its what you pay for not all this complaining and whineing(call that smack if you like cuz if u whine like a baby your guna get treated like one)

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Wihtout even reading what you've put, learn to type

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Originally by: Super Twinkey69

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Originally by: Xaeon

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Originally by: Super Twinkey69

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lag was bad-evry1 had it dont say they didnt-your angry cuz u lost a lot tonight,understandable,i would be too but ffs get over it-the alliances out here have done everything in their power to stop TRI and despite that we kept comeing we fought outnumbered on soooo many engagements its ridiculous.tbh you and your allies(what ever remains of them after they met us) have had every oppertunity to succeede and win eve or w/e so stop crying. as far as MM/RzR and co props to them for wanting to put past aside and accomplish a common goal,as said it was a temporary nap to do what we needed,2mrw TRI shoots EVERYBODY again so maybe insted of complaining bout how your 200 man gang of like 30 bs and the rest support failed to save what little hope your alliance had of continueing-form a gang,come find us-have fun ffs,its what you pay for not all this complaining and whineing(call that smack if you like cuz if u whine like a baby your guna get treated like one)

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Wihtout even reading what you've put, learn to type

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isnt there some minerals to mine

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Originally by: Xaeon

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Originally by: Super Twinkey69

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Originally by: Xaeon

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Originally by: Super Twinkey69

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lag was bad-evry1 had it dont say they didnt-your angry cuz u lost a lot tonight,understandable,i would be too but ffs get over it-the alliances out here have done everything in their power to stop TRI and despite that we kept comeing we fought outnumbered on soooo many engagements its ridiculous.tbh you and your allies(what ever remains of them after they met us) have had every oppertunity to succeede and win eve or w/e so stop crying. as far as MM/RzR and co props to them for wanting to put past aside and accomplish a common goal,as said it was a temporary nap to do what we needed,2mrw TRI shoots EVERYBODY again so maybe insted of complaining bout how your 200 man gang of like 30 bs and the rest support failed to save what little hope your alliance had of continueing-form a gang,come find us-have fun ffs,its what you pay for not all this complaining and whineing(call that smack if you like cuz if u whine like a baby your guna get treated like one)

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Wihtout even reading what you've put, learn to type

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isnt there some minerals to mine

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Didn't you know? You're leading the corp mining op

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Originally by: Altair Mogwa

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Edited by: Altair Mogwa on 25/07/2007 04:53:33
Edited by: Altair Mogwa on 25/07/2007 04:44:51
Correction in your report.

Cult of War was only in A4L from a log on, earlier a lag out killed their support fleet during a Snigg engagement. They parked BS's at a POS and soon logged off. M. Pire did not participate tonight from what i saw, last night they roamed Tri VFK area a bit. FATAL sent a few, 2 loss, 1 kill from according to Razor/Tri board.

Originally by: Sith Bandon

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desync everyone had it.

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Many of your corp/alliance mates have told me this is untrue and you had no desyncs. You just 1 day napped people for help, you have no place to EVER make comments about napping people around you. Some are for long term politics, yours was more a hired gun. I rather die as a friend.


0/ for brining the #'s, and hope CCP fixes this stuff soon. I want to see my ship burning and dieing, no log on in station :(

220-230 vs. 190. About 150-60 had to relogg on our side. Nice to hear some of you got the 10min login hang, wth *** was that?

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Tri's thanks extend to the temporary friends of Rzr/MM/Pure/Hydra and hope they enjoyed the night as much as us.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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However they made a mistake in the laggy conditions of not making a load-spot and suffered because of it, our side winning easily + taking down 4 of the carriers.

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Originally by: Foxy CEO

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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However they made a mistake in the laggy conditions of not making a load-spot and suffered because of it, our side winning easily + taking down 4 of the carriers.

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Can you pretend I'm stupid and explain what a load-spot is and why it solves lag issues?

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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P.S. Saying "Epic fight" when your opponents are outnumbered both in ships, ships fitting and SP is kinda hypocripsy. But whatever. I guess it's a big fun for Tri to fight with minimal challenge.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 07:38:34
I find it amusing how Tri always chooses the stronger side to fight. First, when MC with allies were steamrolling D2, IRON and others in the North the Tri attacked the Northern Coalition who were running with tail between their legs at that moment. After that when Rzr/MM and allies attacked T1TS in Tenal and when it became obvious the T1TS will fall, the Tri decided to go against weaker alliances in Deklein who therefor had to pull out from the Tenal to defend their homes against Tri.

You guys are a class act. Not.

P.S. Saying "Epic fight" when your opponents are outnumbered both in ships, ships fitting and SP is kinda hypocripsy. But whatever. I guess it's a big fun for Tri to fight with minimal challenge.

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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a load point is a spot as far away from the hostiles as possible while still on the grid, so you can load everything on the grid without hostiles shooting you

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Originally by: Foxy CEO

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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a load point is a spot as far away from the hostiles as possible while still on the grid, so you can load everything on the grid without hostiles shooting you

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Is that 250km away from the nearest hostile? More? I've seen inties almost 400kms off gates but I assume that's too far away if you warp there rather than fly there.

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Originally by: Foxy CEO

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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a load point is a spot as far away from the hostiles as possible while still on the grid, so you can load everything on the grid without hostiles shooting you

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Is that 250km away from the nearest hostile? More? I've seen inties almost 400kms off gates but I assume that's too far away if you warp there rather than fly there.

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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First of all, we haven't sided with anyone. We still kill Morsus Mihi/Razor/etc. when the target presents itself. The coalition has been reset to nuetral (or will be within 24 hours) so its not like we're on one side or the other, we're on our own side.

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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Sparta and friends had 230(approximately) in system, we had 190. How did we outnumber them?

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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Or does 1 + 1 = 5? Plus the hostiles had capital support in system but we couldn't jump any capitals in because of the hostile cyno jammer.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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These numbers doesn't mean anything unless you start comparing numbers of capital ships on each side and fleet BS's.

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Originally by: Drone Spammer

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gj tri

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 08:18:51
These numbers doesn't mean anything unless you start comparing numbers of capital ships on each side and fleet BS's. Looking at killboards will easily solve this problem if you really think that you were outnumbered...

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 07:38:34
I find it amusing how Tri always chooses the stronger side to fight. First, when MC with allies were steamrolling D2, IRON and others in the North the Tri attacked the Northern Coalition who were running with tail between their legs at that moment. After that when Rzr/MM and allies attacked T1TS in Tenal and when it became obvious the T1TS will fall, the Tri decided to go against weaker alliances in Deklein who therefor had to pull out from the Tenal to defend their homes against Tri.

You guys are a class act. Not.

P.S. Saying "Epic fight" when your opponents are outnumbered both in ships, ships fitting and SP is kinda hypocripsy. But whatever. I guess it's a big fun for Tri to fight with minimal challenge.

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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Edited by: Brunswick2 on 25/07/2007 08:38:59

Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 08:18:51
These numbers doesn't mean anything unless you start comparing numbers of capital ships on each side and fleet BS's. Looking at killboards will easily solve this problem if you really think that you were outnumbered...

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There were approximately 220 hostiles in local when we jumped in. We had 190 in total.

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Originally by: Zerv

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We didn't go into Tenal because we did NOT want space at that time. We only wanted to roam and find targets etc. We invaded Deklin to provoke fights, and afterwards decided its a nice place to live as well. If you think Tri always chooses the stronger side to fight, why did we have many nights where it was 100 vs. 250, and we continued to persevere and continue?

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Originally by: Zerv

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Also, simply count your NAPs, their duration, and compare them to our Naps. nuff said.

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Originally by: Plave Okice

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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These numbers doesn't mean anything unless you start comparing numbers of capital ships on each side and fleet BS's.

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Not sure on the BS count, but we had no capital support, not sure how many they had, at least 7 I think, they certainly lost 4 carriers anyway. And I believe the total count was 230 them 190 us.

Quick BS count shows around 70 us 50 them on TRI kb, not exactly overwhelming, also shows 200 kills for less than 50 losses.

Not sure how accurate that will be, obviously there will be kills and losses not involving TRI pilots not counted in that.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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There is no wonder if the properly configured fleet of experienced players in t2 / faction fitted ships with good FC's beat the s**t out of less organized swarm of t1 cruiser, BC's and frigs? ;)

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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But you do realize that the alliances you fighting in Deklein are weaker than you in: SP, experience, FCs, ship fittings, fleet configuration?

There is no wonder if the properly configured fleet of experienced players in t2 / faction fitted ships with good FC's beat the s**t out of less organized swarm of t1 cruiser, BC's and frigs. ;)

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 07:38:34
I find it amusing how Tri always chooses the stronger side to fight. First, when MC with allies were steamrolling D2, IRON and others in the North the Tri attacked the Northern Coalition who were running with tail between their legs at that moment. After that when Rzr/MM and allies attacked T1TS in Tenal and when it became obvious the T1TS will fall, the Tri decided to go against weaker alliances in Deklein who therefor had to pull out from the Tenal to defend their homes against Tri.

You guys are a class act. Not.

P.S. Saying "Epic fight" when your opponents are outnumbered both in ships, ships fitting and SP is kinda hypocripsy. But whatever. I guess it's a big fun for Tri to fight with minimal challenge.

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Originally by: Zerv

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edit: In almost all engagements, you guys had as many BS as us. Using the t1 cruiser, bc, frigate excuse doesn't work in this case.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 07:38:34
I find it amusing how Tri always chooses the stronger side to fight. First, when MC with allies were steamrolling D2, IRON and others in the North the Tri attacked the Northern Coalition who were running with tail between their legs at that moment. After that when Rzr/MM and allies attacked T1TS in Tenal and when it became obvious the T1TS will fall, the Tri decided to go against weaker alliances in Deklein who therefor had to pull out from the Tenal to defend their homes against Tri.

You guys are a class act. Not.

P.S. Saying "Epic fight" when your opponents are outnumbered both in ships, ships fitting and SP is kinda hypocripsy. But whatever. I guess it's a big fun for Tri to fight with minimal challenge.

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Originally by: Arthur Guinness

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Shame on us for having more experience, more SP, and more bloodlust. We should all reroll nub alts and PVP in rookie ships so we will lose. That way the Roger Arko, the ex-Storm Armada guy, will like us.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 09:15:00

Originally by: Zerv

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edit: In almost all engagements, you guys had as many BS as us. Using the t1 cruiser, bc, frigate excuse doesn't work in this case.

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This is not true. Check the kb's. Majority of engagement Tri did have more t2 fitted BS's usually with strong support of command ships and HAC's. I'm not saying that you not facing the BS's. You do, but in either less amounts or poorly fitted. Not to mention the SP difference. I bet most of Tri pilots have BS skills at V which also makes a big difference.

My point was: if Tri love the pvp and the challenge - there are much better targets out there. Razor for instance would give you pretty good fights with minimal blobage. In Deklein you either get badly outblobbed which turn the fights into lag-fest OR you face the equal or less in numbers enemy group with much worse fitting and organization than you have and you simply melt 'em fast with minimal to no challenge for your t2/faction hacs, command ships and recons. Correct me if im wrong.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Anyways Im gonna shut up now.

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Originally by: Astro Teller

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is this where i stroke the epeen?

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Originally by: trouser boy

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So did it really 'desync' or are people just saying it did because they don't really understand it?

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Originally by: Zerv

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we killed 4 MM carriers last week... I mean c'mon Roger... are you trolling or being serious?

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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This is not true. Check the kb's. Majority of engagement Tri did have more t2 fitted BS's usually with strong support of command ships and HAC's. I'm not saying that you not facing the BS's. You do, but in either less amounts or poorly fitted. Not to mention the SP difference. I bet most of Tri pilots have BS skills at V which also makes a big difference.

My point was: if Tri love the pvp and the challenge - there are much better targets out there. Razor for instance would give you pretty good fights with minimal blobage. In Deklein you either get badly outblobbed which turn the fights into lag-fest OR you face the equal or less in numbers enemy group with much worse fitting and organization that you have and you simply melt 'em fast with minimal to no challenge for your t2/faction hacs, command ships and recons. Correct me if im wrong.

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Originally by: fire 59

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7 Large bubbles on the same gate

shudder

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Originally by: Zerv

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we killed 4 MM carriers last week... I mean c'mon Roger... are you trolling or being serious?

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As I said killing ships have nothing to do with territorial warfare. As for now you are giving an excelent favour to Razor and allies.

P.S. Last time I checked Venal was next door to Tenal and Tribute too.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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As I said killing ships have nothing to do with territorial warfare. As for now you are giving an excelent favour to Razor and allies.

P.S. Last time I checked Venal was next door to Tenal and Tribute too.

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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk

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Anyway it was fun having TRI on our side for this time, but now lets get back to pew pew, since we both enjoy doing that :)

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Originally by: Benglada

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And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?

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Originally by: swiss TEX

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sry guys. i am sure u all did well. but i didnt see anything. and thats not gaming, thats just disapointing.

more than 8 ppl of my corp reported lag that bad, that they never saw more than 4 enemies at one time.

one of them was killed in his scorp - 160km from gate by ROCKETS without seeing any enemy.

its not fun play like this. some of them already declined to join again cause its pointless.

for me its a really bad day. i would like to join such a great battle - even if i get killed. i play this game for moments like this. but there was no moment. bad, really bad.

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Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Desync played a major part in the first engagement. Respect for bringing the numbers, but I will not concede the loss of this battle to your skill. It was massive lag, and desync. By the time our forces loaded, you held the gate firmly, and the bubbles were killed. Your snipers also had time to warp to snipespots so one would assume that your lag/desync was minimal while we sustained the brunt of it.

Nonetheless thanks for the fight.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 08:18:51

Standings have nothing to do with it. The attack on Deklein is exactly what Rzr and friends needed to finish off T1TS without facing blobs anymore. Continues attacks on Deklein is exactly what Rzr and friends needed to prevent any possible counterattack on Tenal to prepare the invade of the Branch, and at last, but not the least, removal of Sparta cap ship production POS with ms in build was a Big presence for Rzr and friends.
You may be neutral with Rzr and friends, but popping few ships once in a while have nothing to do with territorial warfare. Try to see a forrest behind the trees, my friend.



Hmm maybe it is me that is wrong, but i am sure that T1ts have been dead for a long time now, and that this was not to finnish off T1ts.
You can look at their memebers here and see if you think lst night will finish them off ;)

T1ts members

Originally by: Roger Arko

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Originally by: Zerv

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we killed 4 MM carriers last week... I mean c'mon Roger... are you trolling or being serious?

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As I said killing ships have nothing to do with territorial warfare. As for now you are giving an excelent favour to Razor and allies.

P.S. Last time I checked Venal was next door to Tenal and Tribute too.

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Originally by: Mira O'karr

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this is not my idea of a battle and its not Tri's fault.

to loose a MS like that hurts :(

i think i m a little bit over eve right now. thank you ccp.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Just don't tell me you didn't remove the cyno jammer.

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Originally by: Paper

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Rock's fine, nerf Scissors

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Originally by: Captain Rick****

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Sounded good, now stop killing my alts Vigils!

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Originally by: Mephysto

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in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you?

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Originally by: putukas

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CUW vs Pandemic fight

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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... in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch?

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: putukas

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For Cult of War, the war has just begun.

We had fun fight against black omega and co about 10 jumps out of target system. That was funny fight, thnx guys.

cya in space

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Aerick Dawn

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Glad to see old friends do well.

DanMC, I have firetrucks, fill your cargo full of hookers, and we'll have a party.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Aerick Dawn

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Glad to see old friends do well.

DanMC, I have firetrucks, fill your cargo full of hookers, and we'll have a party.

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Originally by: Giamilton

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GF, However badly your fleet lagged when you jumped in 85% of our fleet de-synced and were annihilated as a result, I would love to think we actually gave you a fight, but CCP's server rules ie jumping in get priority, doomed us from the start. we dropped over a hundred of our forces in local within 5 minutes of Tri forces jumping the gate.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Our gang dropped from 100 to nearly 50 when we jumped in... I saw it with my own eyes... but we still got you.

Lag was bad, but that wasn't your only problem.

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Originally by: ArchenTheGreat

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I logged in UEJX few hours before the fight and I was cloaked at gate during jump in. After seeing two friendly frigs on screen I noticed FC started calling targets for BSes. I saw nothing but two friendly frigs.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: 0August0

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Originally by: ArchenTheGreat

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I logged in UEJX few hours before the fight and I was cloaked at gate during jump in. After seeing two friendly frigs on screen I noticed FC started calling targets for BSes. I saw nothing but two friendly frigs.

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That sounds a lot like what the Sparta guys are saying happened to them.

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Originally by: Giamilton

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but we will never know if it was because Tri is better PvPers or if it was because they brought better ships,

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.

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Originally by: Giamilton

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but we will never know if it was because Tri is better PvPers

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Originally by: Giamilton

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Yah we lost, but we will never know if it was because Tri is better PvPers or if it was because they brought better ships.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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First off, sorry about the cheesey title

Sunday night we put a POS in UEJX with a Capital Ship Array in reinforced. We had good intel this was where a MS was in production.

Monday we went in with a fleet, jumped into their camp and held the gate. We then went to work on the cyno jammer (which I never want to do again EVER with 16million hp!) and very nearly lost a dread. The cyno jammer was incapacitated as the servers went down, while our dread was at 25% structure. We got lucky, while the jammer was restored to full HP.

Tonight, we had intel that Sparta had called upon allies Fallen Souls, Storm Armada, Cult of War, M.Pire and FATAL to come and defend their baby MS. Not expecting to be able to get into system with our 80 man gang, we mobilized to try and prevent reinforcements arriving in system and to try and draw them out of UEJX to get a fight. Local was at 220 in UEJX and the gate was bubbled with 7 large bubbles, and lag on the way up meant there was no way we were suiciding our fleet into that. However, after getting in contact with Rzr/MM and them quickly forming a gang to assist along with numbers of pure, hydra and friends we managed to get a sizeable force to somewhat match that of the enemies.

The call was made to jump in, and after what seemed like forever of mass lag, almost 5 minutes of loading, primaries began to be called. We ended up holding the field with suprisingly small loss.

Half an hour later the POS came out of reinforced. The call was made not to bother with capitals and to take the Dread Guristas Pos with just BS. Sparta + friends made one last ditch effort to save their MS warping in 7 carriers + multiple BS/support on top of us to the POS. However they made a mistake in the laggy conditions of not making a load-spot and suffered because of it, our side winning easily + taking down 4 of the carriers.

We were then left relatively untouched to finish off the POS, which it has been confirmed had a MS on build.

Tri's thanks extend to the temporary friends of Rzr/MM/Pure/Hydra and hope they enjoyed the night as much as us. To Sparta - you fought valiantly.

Stats for the last 3 days, probably incomplete:

Ship classKL
Assault frigate209
Battlecruiser296
Battleship7525
Capsule 12829
Carrier 51
Covert ops112
Cruiser781
Destroyer150
Frigate 552
Heavy assault311
Industrial10
Interceptor2032
Interdictor1112
Logistics10
Recon ship76

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Originally by: Altair Mogwa

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Many of your corp/alliance mates have told me this is untrue and you had no desyncs. You just 1 day napped people for help, you have no place to EVER make comments about napping people around you. Some are for long term politics, yours was more a hired gun. I rather die as a friend.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: Roger Arko

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Edited by: Roger Arko on 25/07/2007 08:18:51
Standings have nothing to do with it. The attack on Deklein is exactly what Rzr and friends needed to finish off T1TS without facing blobs anymore. Continues attacks on Deklein is exactly what Rzr and friends needed to prevent any possible counterattack on Tenal to prepare the invade of the Branch, and at last, but not the least, removal of Sparta cap ship production POS with ms in build was a Big presence for Rzr and friends.
You may be neutral with Rzr and friends, but popping few ships once in a while have nothing to do with territorial warfare. Try to see a forrest behind the trees, my friend.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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Originally by: shimmyckus

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I lost huginn in that fight not sure how... As soon as COW gang jumped in i've aligned towards some planet, started to burn away from gate and shooting at tacklers. When i start taking some dmg ive tryed to warp out but got message that i am warp scrambled !?! According to my overview closest target to me was about 50-60km far away (no arazus or lachesis on km) so i have no idea what actually happend. ;)

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Originally by: Gutsani

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No desync here either, the memory leak played a MAJOR role though, i asked if we could relog prior to moving but we didnt have time, my client was eating close to 2GB memory when we jumped in the system. Took me +-7 minutes to load by the time i was in a pod.

Once loaded though, the fps was higher then i have seen in the past. No idea about relogging delay.

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Originally by: Mephysto

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Atempting to ignore the client memory leak problem at present (we patched that this morning), in your estimation was the lag better or worse than before the patch? Also how bad was desync'ing affecting you? Again, was this better or worse than before the patch?

We have run our tests obviously, but we presently have a hard time simulating this sort of event on the test servers.

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