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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian are we still talking about this?
I walked away when I found out the Sin was a T2 domi pink Meatboob. Then I looked at the Kronos and went: oh yay.... ANOTHER megathron. not like we dont have 3 variants of those already.
T2 ships are NOT supposed to be new models, never were and never will be (at least by current trend) CCP will likely use the tier 3 BS for other T2 ships in future.
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Cornucopian
Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Cornucopian are we still talking about this?
I walked away when I found out the Sin was a T2 domi pink Meatboob. Then I looked at the Kronos and went: oh yay.... ANOTHER megathron. not like we dont have 3 variants of those already.
T2 ships are NOT supposed to be new models, never were and never will be (at least by current trend) CCP will likely use the tier 3 BS for other T2 ships in future.
true.... but a T2 pink domi meatboob and softskin fleshlight pink thorax was REALLY uncalled for..... ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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J Ripper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:36:00 -
[453]
PMSL @ "Fleshlight"
my sig: --- Jon Johansen --- |
Dirk Magnum
Red Light Enterprises Eastern Star Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 12:48:00 -
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Yeah the tier 3's definitely should have been considered for one of the new battleship class models. Oh well.
It seems a lot of people's complaints have to do with the new battleships not being out and out better (though we've yet to see their bonuses) than the ones we have now. It could be that they aren't supposed to be better, except in a specific area. Maybe the Marauder isn't supposed to be a giant HAC with wide utility in PvP and PvE. Maybe it's just meant for slowly floating through all those level 5 mission that are supposed to be getting added, slowly but surely knocking away the opposition with standard-power guns.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:14:00 -
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stop complaining about the new pink ships, they are hot
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Cornucopian
Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: J Ripper PMSL @ "Fleshlight"
what does PMSL mean? ****ed my shorts laughing? ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:06:00 -
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What is the problem with pink ships? Stop being homophobic.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Rhys Onasi
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:38:00 -
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Yes... PLEASE remember the crystal ball.
But WHEN is the dev blog on this going to be up. They said hopefully early next week. It is next week, its wednesday, and I am getting IMPATIENT!
Seriously though, take your time writing it devs, I want it to be good.
(But even if you can't tell us exatly what the description/bonuses will be, can you at least gives us an idea? This thread needs new stuff to flame about!)
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Aarla
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:45:00 -
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hehe they should have made them all bright pink for test server , just to see how ppl would react , and when they goto tranq , change the colors back to normal. just for kicks and screw with you minds.
just do what raven pilots have done for years , zoom out , end of story.
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Haerana
The Republican Guard The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon What is the problem with pink ships? Stop being homophobic.
I think its the fact its pink and shaped like a big***** is the problem. which isnt homophobic imo, maybe you like to look at big pink*****s but im not a fan. its not exactley child friendly either is it. I take it you wouldnt have a problem with a pink ship shaped like a pair of ******* either? I want my spaceships to be spaceships. not flying genital shapes. The thorax as is, is enough of a joke. making it pink is just getting silly. then again we havent seen its true colours. i do think that ccp arent stupid enough to make it entirely PINK. i would assume its more likely to turn out to be a more light redish and silver colour design. Here comes the sig.............
Quickfit RIP Much love to the guys that let us test ship setups for so long. but now is the age of EFT! LONG LIVE EFT. |
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Occara
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Occara on 10/10/2007 16:45:03
Originally by: Vrognem Edited by: Vrognem on 10/10/2007 05:39:42 Just an idea for people complaining about 4 turret hard points as opposed to 8, plus people assuming it will probably have a damage bonus to equal 8 and so on.
For example; 8 turrets do 1000 dps on normal ship. 4 turrets on T2 bs with (assumed) damage bonus making it do 1000 dps making each gun twice as powerful.
It is not better with 4 turrets when considering this simple reason: miss a single random shot (which happens sometimes >_<) and you have lost 1/4th of your damage. Miss a single shot on the 8 turret ship and you lose 1/8th of your damage. Then again, you have a higher chance of random misses with the 8 turret setup, I don't know the formulas nor am I a math whizz but I'd assume it will affect the 4 turret ship more over a short period?
In regards to the ships: they are all testing/beta ships so I wouldn't get too up in arms about exact stats/configurations or if they look like bedroom play toys .
From what I can see the tanks could be interesting with under half the HP and more resists. They may possibly have some sort of resist bonus per marauder (or whatever) level - which would bring them in line or closer to HACs resists once trained. IIRC an Amarr hac and the drake etc have that already?
edit: Personally would have loved a pocket dread style ship for anti capital/bs fleet battle role if there is one to be made/filled but that's just me :) It would need support to tackle, use siege mod etc and would not be a solo pwn mobile.
-Vrog
Vrog,
This is analogous to slow high damage weapons in other games.
Over time, the damage is the same. In small slices, a miss can be worse on you. HOWEVER, on the other end, a crit is also a bigger crit.
Fast low damage weapons (or many turrets) are consistent damage. Slow high damage weapons (or few turrets with high damage) have the possibility for "luck" to play more of a role. You could miss a few times and kill your dps, or you could crit a time or two and in that small slice deal massive damage compared to your many turret opponent.
Over time though, it will all even out. 20 turrets at 1 dps, or 1 turret at 20 dps will be the same damage over a large amount of time (where the hit to miss ratio converges on the actual probabilities). The 1 turret when it misses, is a big pain, but when it crits is a big plus.
edit: I fail at reading the rest of the thread before replying. 3 people have already said the same thing.
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Occara
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Yeah the tier 3's definitely should have been considered for one of the new battleship class models. Oh well.
It seems a lot of people's complaints have to do with the new battleships not being out and out better (though we've yet to see their bonuses) than the ones we have now. It could be that they aren't supposed to be better, except in a specific area. Maybe the Marauder isn't supposed to be a giant HAC with wide utility in PvP and PvE. Maybe it's just meant for slowly floating through all those level 5 mission that are supposed to be getting added, slowly but surely knocking away the opposition with standard-power guns.
the problem with slowly but surely in a mission is that no matter how long you shoot, if you can't break the tank, it is pointless.
(though you can drag ships a few hundred KM away and they'll often shut off their reppers)
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Ol' Delsai
Caldari Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:49:00 -
[463]
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Blogs are being written to cover all this which will hopefully get released early next week.
That should be really soon(tm) now, we're half-week now :p
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Ciphero
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.10 16:51:00 -
[464]
Edited by: Ciphero on 10/10/2007 16:50:58
Originally by: Haerana which isnt homophobic imo, maybe you like to look at big pink*****s but im not a fan.
Quick, imply he's homosexual again to underline your non-homophobic point. |
Vasili vonHolst
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Posted - 2007.10.10 20:50:00 -
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Ok, How about making some new hulls... I mean wtf. Can we have rainbow colored ships next?
Raven: Brown Navy Raven: Black State raven: Camo Golem: Black Next Years: Purple???
Make some new models... we are bored of the same models with new names and stats
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Occara
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Posted - 2007.10.10 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili vonHolst Ok, How about making some new hulls... I mean wtf. Can we have rainbow colored ships next?
Raven: Brown Navy Raven: Black State raven: Camo Golem: Black Next Years: Purple???
Make some new models... we are bored of the same models with new names and stats
why does this keep coming up? T2 ships are a variant of a T1 ship. There is NO T2 ship in all the ships that is not a repaint of its T1 version
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Cornucopian
Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.10 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Cornucopian on 10/10/2007 21:53:56
Originally by: Kagura Nikon What is the problem with pink ships? Stop being homophobic.
what the flying **** does finding pink ships to be fugly have to do with homophobes?
its A SPACESHIP, not some representation of sexuality.
get a life.
edit: to make my point EVEN MORE obvious, how many people do you see riding around in pink cars? A pink shirt or polo.....lovely, I have many, but pink vehicles?
What's next, big nekkid women stations? jita 4-4 turned into a giant nekkid jack black? ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Haerana
The Republican Guard The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.10.10 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ciphero Edited by: Ciphero on 10/10/2007 16:50:58
Originally by: Haerana which isnt homophobic imo, maybe you like to look at big pink*****s but im not a fan.
Quick, imply he's homosexual again to underline your non-homophobic point.
getting abit off topic now but anyway. When did we establish the owner of that char is a guy? looks like a female avatar to me. But if it is a guy. Did i say it was a bad thing if he did want to? no. did i use it in a derogatory sense? no. Just stated i didnt want to with the aim of showing not everybody in the world is the same. so plz /shoo Here comes the sig............. The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.10 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian Edited by: Cornucopian on 10/10/2007 21:53:56
Originally by: Kagura Nikon What is the problem with pink ships? Stop being homophobic.
what the flying **** does finding pink ships to be fugly have to do with homophobes?
its A SPACESHIP, not some representation of sexuality.
get a life.
edit: to make my point EVEN MORE obvious, how many people do you see riding around in pink cars? A pink shirt or polo.....lovely, I have many, but pink vehicles?
What's next, big nekkid women stations? jita 4-4 turned into a giant nekkid jack black?
there are a lot of pink cars in street. And the phalic shape of the thorax is the same in T1. IF you can live with the t1 version why complain on the T2?
If you look at a ship and get the idea of somethign that is not a ship. Its your head's problem!!! You see somethign else because you want!
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.10 23:28:00 -
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only thing I want when I see a pink thorax is more ammo
Originally by: Akita T No, it's a trap ! I can tell from some of the modules and from seeing quite a few traps in my time...
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Drenan
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Posted - 2007.10.10 23:56:00 -
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Why have CCP not killed this pink Thorax story yet...do they really think it is funny to wind-up the playerbase like this?
Any rational company would have focus-grouped the graphical content of Rev III months ago...but not CCP...no, they are going to let us keep on guessing and drip-feed us info until the release?
Not good.
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Khan Dhu
Khan Dhu Research and Cloning
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Posted - 2007.10.11 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Drenan
Why have CCP not killed this pink Thorax story yet...do they really think it is funny to wind-up the playerbase like this?
Any rational company would have focus-grouped the graphical content of Rev III months ago...but not CCP...no, they are going to let us keep on guessing and drip-feed us info until the release?
Not good.
Hate to say it, but the Phobos is real, man. It's been in the database for months on Coldfront.
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Sonja Vladomirovic
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Posted - 2007.10.11 07:10:00 -
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The Domi is the ugliest thing in the space (not even an asteroid can compare, and Im lovin it for that), why not give it the ugliest painting ever?
And btw., are batteries included to the T2 Thorax?
Anyway, only possible sollution is to change the colours of the Duvolle Labs in general (cause 1 ship can't be green or whatever, if the others are pink). GIVE THEM BLOOD RED, OR BLUE, OR BLACK!
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Ciphero
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.11 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Khan Dhu
Originally by: Drenan
Why have CCP not killed this pink Thorax story yet...do they really think it is funny to wind-up the playerbase like this?
Any rational company would have focus-grouped the graphical content of Rev III months ago...but not CCP...no, they are going to let us keep on guessing and drip-feed us info until the release?
Not good.
Hate to say it, but the Phobos is real, man. It's been in the database for months on Coldfront.
It's been in there for years in fact - even kept the same name the whole time as well.
As for the apparently unavoidable issue of it being pink and vaguely phallic, come on! If that's what your genitalia looks like then, to be honest, you've got problems. If it doesn't, move on! |
Cornucopian
Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.11 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Cornucopian Edited by: Cornucopian on 10/10/2007 21:53:56
Originally by: Kagura Nikon What is the problem with pink ships? Stop being homophobic.
what the flying **** does finding pink ships to be fugly have to do with homophobes?
its A SPACESHIP, not some representation of sexuality.
get a life.
edit: to make my point EVEN MORE obvious, how many people do you see riding around in pink cars? A pink shirt or polo.....lovely, I have many, but pink vehicles?
What's next, big nekkid women stations? jita 4-4 turned into a giant nekkid jack black?
there are a lot of pink cars in street. And the phalic shape of the thorax is the same in T1. IF you can live with the t1 version why complain on the T2?
If you look at a ship and get the idea of somethign that is not a ship. Its your head's problem!!! You see somethign else because you want!
a lot of pink cars in the street my ass.
Whatever. please refrain from calling me a homophobe in the future though.
I'm done here. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Mush Morton
Caldari Wolf Echelon Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.10.11 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mush Morton on 11/10/2007 16:55:05 I found a blurb about some of the new material in the Trinity expansion which may shed some light on roles bonuses. Specifically, I'm referring to the debate about whether or not marauders will out-damage their T1 counterparts.
Quote: Marauder battleships - Optimized for massive damage output to spearhead assaults in enemy territory.
Press Release
Apologies if any of this information is redundant or buried within the subtext of this thread.
For my part, I anticipate that the T2 Raven (Golem) will tank noticeably better than the Raven, but will likely use a modified siege mode (like a dread) to produce massive damage when tactically necessary. Of course this is speculation, but that's the fun part. ----------------- Molon Labe! |
Opiewon
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Posted - 2007.10.11 17:57:00 -
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whats with the t2 domi stats anyway? in almost every catagory they are worse or equil to there t1 partners. less armor less shields less structure only thing going i see is an extra 10% to kinetic resists but for the cost of this thing thats just not worth it.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Opiewon whats with the t2 domi stats anyway? in almost every catagory they are worse or equil to there t1 partners. less armor less shields less structure only thing going i see is an extra 10% to kinetic resists but for the cost of this thing thats just not worth it.
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Deamonicus
Caldari Blood-Line
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Posted - 2007.10.11 18:23:00 -
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IMO most of these ships are pure overpriced trash. kudos to ccp for the pink ship
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Dukali
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Posted - 2007.10.11 19:14:00 -
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How friggin dare anyone out there make fun of CCP after all they have been through. They found new bugs, she went through an employee favoritism scandal. They had two friggin expansions. Their users turned out to be exploiters, cheaters, and now they're going through a company merger. All you people care about is... thread length and making ISK off of them. THEY'RE HUMAN! What you donÆt realize is that CCP is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about them. They havenÆt released new T2 ships in a year. Their ships are called ôviolatorsö for a reason because all you people want is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE. LEAVE THEM ALONE! You are lucky they even release expansions for you BASTARDS! LEEEAVE CCP ALLLLLONE!...Please. These posts talked about professionalism and said if CCP was a professional they wouldÆve pulled it off no matter what. Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publically bash someone who is going through a hard time. Leave CCP Alone Pleaseà. Leave CCP aloneàright nowà.I mean it. Anyone that has a problem with them you deal with me, beacuse they are not well right now. Leave them alone.
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