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Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Baun Two accounts over 4 years old canceled.
Anyone know any good new games with competent developers?
Yes in fact Infinity Online is progressing but probably still a year out. More of a twitch game though. Also there is Jumpgate Evolution (gotta love the name right?) that is currently accepting Emails for beta invites when they have a beta client released.
Z CCP (Producers of Slide Show Online) takin the fun out of EVE, one patch at a time. |
Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:32:00 -
[2222]
Originally by: Baun Just a general message to all carrier pilots and mothership pilots.
Start camping low sec agent hubs from now until your account runs out. Make all major agent hubs unusable.
If CCP is serious about doing this then we need to be serious about making them pay for it.
You might as well take ships to camp the newbie stations and Jita 4-4 with smartbombs :-)
I don't believe the change to be so bad, but if this many people are so deadset against it, CCP should look at other ways to achieve what they want.
Personally I think its possible to achieve similar results without harming what most people here seem to consider the 'core functionality' of carriers.
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breadcat
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:33:00 -
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whine whine whine.......seriously just lol.....make some constructive suggestions instead.
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Robet Katrix
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:34:00 -
[2224]
Originally by: breadcat whine whine whine.......seriously just lol.....make some constructive suggestions instead.
why? they put it on SiSi anyways
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Krall Amarr
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:34:00 -
[2225]
Originally by: Vily Zulupark you scumbag.
still listening my ******* ass.
three more accounts cancelled. and i hope you guys enjoy chatting with Visa because i fully intend to contest my last round of account renewals under a change in service.
/signed same for me and my 3 account
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: breadcat make some constructive suggestions instead.
85 pages of constructive "OH JESUS **** NO" wasn't enough, you mean?
Aside from the fact the nerf is bull****, we've been outright LIED TO.
Utter barefaced LIES. You do not go from a drawing-board ballpark idea to a fully coded, working, implemented change to 2 entire ship classes in 2 sodding days.
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breadcat
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Robet Katrix
Originally by: breadcat whine whine whine.......seriously just lol.....make some constructive suggestions instead.
why? they put it on SiSi anyways
so it's not like they can't change it with the next patch.
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Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: breadcat whine whine whine.......seriously just lol.....make some constructive suggestions instead.
Why bother. There were countless "constructive" suggestions that were ignored and called biased by players who didn't feel like giving up their "win buttons".
And even after 85 pages of pure hate for the ideas, they've mysteriously found their way onto Sisi.
Constructive criticism and suggestions mean **** all to CCP apparently. ---
in EVE - Idara |
Anton March
United Space Republic
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:43:00 -
[2229]
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
I've set my account to cancel already. *If* there's a dev blog saying that this change is definitely not going live, I'll reactivate. Honestly though, I'm not holding my breath.
Well, at least this ought to make my gf real real happy.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:43:00 -
[2230]
Edited by: Baun on 23/10/2007 18:44:07
Originally by: CCP Abathur Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Why would we ever jump to conclusions?
Might it be because you suggested the deletion of two ship classes from the game to combat a non-existant problem and have not substantively responded to 2,500 negative posts made in 2 days and then implimented bandwidth on SiSi to reflect these changes.
Fix it with the next SiSi DT or you will see another several thouand accounts canceled.
Edit: I am still not officially reactivating until you officially abandon this idea. I imagine everyone else will act the same way.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Future Thing
Ninja Warriors of the Round Table
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:44:00 -
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What a load of *******s. Leave this alone its a terrible idea.
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Krall Amarr
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:44:00 -
[2232]
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Sorry maybe u not understand 90 page of NO!
we are not patient we say NO, to this fix, and place it on try is lack of RESPECT on your customers my dear developer.
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Jiks
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:44:00 -
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Dear CCP,
I've been here since 2004 and this the second thread I've posted in. After the T2O fiasco I cancelled all three accounts, was away 6 months or so then decided to give your organisation ONE LAST chance. And here it is I guess ...
These changes, now live on Sisi, in the face of united hostility from people usually on opposite sides of any discussion, are wrong, wrong, wrong.
They will not prevent a MS in low-sec SBing people, which frankly I don't see as a problem anyway TBH. They will not reduce lag in fleet battles. They will make unganged/CTD carriers/carriers losing wingmen/on and intermediate jump/etc defenceless when its quite simple to kill them anyway. We don't even know WHAT they are intended to solve as you have not said.
While no constructive comments have been made here by the Devs as we have seen you all seem to have plenty of time to post nonsense about this elsewhere.
From the Sisi implementation it becomes clear this was planned for a while as I doubt code could have been writen and implemented in two days, making any claimed consultation a farce.
All games have an endgame and for most of us carriers/MS are that ultimate goal. If you take our end game away, particulally in this bizare and underhanded manner you will find we end our relationship with you. Permanantly.
Jiks
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:45:00 -
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I've given roughly 4 screenfuls of constructive criticism. If this change goes through as is, I will seriously consider cancelling my two accounts.
However, CCP deserves the chance to respond, so I will wait until it either goes live or is announced officially. I've been a customer for almost three years and CCP has continually impressed me and kept me satisfied with an outstanding, unique product. I hope they prove once again that my trust is not misplaced. They deserve that chance, but they also deserve the consequences if they betray it. ---
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Raketefrau
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:45:00 -
[2235]
Edited by: Raketefrau on 23/10/2007 18:45:48 Almost 90page threadnaught, no goons required. Nicely done, CCP.
Woohoo, 100isk Archon on Sisi, warp to Capital FFA area, and... Ummm...
Well, this is boring as hell. I can sport 5 drones in the freaking Battleship area.
Personally, I love how the devs are basically just flipping us all off. Not even just by ignoring us, but by "derailing" another thread, and then locking it before anyone could respond.
Gotta love the big "**** you" they're giving us all.
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Franklloydwright
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:45:00 -
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This was the straw that broke the camels back. It just ****es me off that it took 80+ pages before we got a single response, even that was a wait and see. Well CCP, this is my response...
Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended11/21/2007 Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended11/21/2007
Time to look for a new game.
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:46:00 -
[2237]
I hope all of you threatening to cancel your accounts actually do. I am totally disgusted to even be associated with this "community" right now.
Grow up? --- Proud Amarr pilot.
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ROFL PWN
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: ROFL PWN on 23/10/2007 18:47:31 Edited by: ROFL PWN on 23/10/2007 18:47:06
i love playing eve, its awsome!! It gives me something cool to do at uni when im not working.(other thatn getting very drunk) I have now trained for bloody ages for a carrier because i love the damage and the fact that i can scare people with launching all my fighters! I wouldnt cancel my account just because i dont like this ridiculous nerf, or because there are now going to be charges for boosters and tracking comps!! :S but if ccp seriously dont listen to their customers this much i will cancel all 3 of my accounts on principle.
regards and fly safe
Cheese monkey.
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:47:00 -
[2239]
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Not good enough. All 3 cancelation still pending. Ball is in your court CCP, you have A LOT of angry customers.
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cyan Nuevo I hope all of you threatening to cancel your accounts actually do. I am totally disgusted to even be associated with this "community" right now.
Grow up?
1/10 for trolling. Seen much better.
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Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:49:00 -
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Well, from a quick glance through the las 4 pages or so....
56 accounts cancelled. ---
in EVE - Idara |
Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:50:00 -
[2242]
Originally by: CCP Abathur ...and is not related to the delegation idea....
so it just happens to work exactly as described in the dev blog?
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SirMolly
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:50:00 -
[2243]
Originally by: Icome4u
Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
Not good enough. All 3 cancelation still pending. Ball is in your court CCP, you have A LOT of angry customers.
And a lot of customers that are actually satisfied with the comming change. "Capital Ships Online" ftl.
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Jehuty Vanricadia
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:50:00 -
[2244]
Edited by: Jehuty Vanricadia on 23/10/2007 18:50:12
Quote: to outline our concerns and plans for carriers.
Because 2,500 customers concerns dont matter its about the developers!
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Aurelius Lyonis
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abathur Edited by: CCP Abathur on 23/10/2007 18:40:56
Ladies and Gentlemen, this has to do with the upcoming drone and fighter bandwidth and is not related to the delegation idea. The test server gets updated daily and as Trinity gets closer to release you will likely see a lot of things happening there. We are also working on an updated new dev blog to outline our concerns and plans for carriers. Please do not jump to conclusions and be patient. Thank you.
With as much outrage that has been generated in this thread, it would have been wiser to set the drone and fighter bandwidth on carriers to correspond with their current live limitations.
I'm assuming of course that it's simply a field in a database somewhere, and not a magic number...
Either way - it doesn't look good, and at this point, people don't need more of a nudge than that.
-Au
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:51:00 -
[2246]
Originally by: Idara Well, from a quick glance through the las 4 pages or so....
56 accounts cancelled.
Thats $10,000 a year lost in a few minutes.
WTG CCP!
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Ms Tinker
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:51:00 -
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K, now seeing that ccp wants a change to capitals is ok by me. I've seen the big capital blob that BoB with allies can field and that's just crazy. With the fighter swarm pos modules and station services melt in seconds, they don't really serve any purpose at that point.
But I don't agree with the suggested solution as does noone. Carrier needs to have the drone (be it fighter, heavy, small, logistic, whatever drone) ability it has, but if you need to BALANCE do it some other way fcs!
And yes, 4 accounts here saying no to these changes. Find another way.
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kaahooters
Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:53:00 -
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NICE ****IN WAY TO REDUCE LAG CCP, i mean what could be easier and more cost effective then loosing 5 - 8 thousnad accounts by ******* up the carrier and mothership class to make them usless.
YAY LESS LAG..... due to less ppl.... humm.. you se the problem DO YOU.
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Koala Bare
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:54:00 -
[2249]
Originally by: CCP Abathur be patient. Thank you.
Do you see this thread? How much patience do people have considered the skill was never seeded.
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Xilimyth Derlin
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.23 18:54:00 -
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Simple suggestion if I may CCP:
When Drone Ships were reduced to 5 drones, the Drone Interfacing Skill was adjusted to make up for this by boosting the damage of the drones so the DPS would at least be on par.
As a striving carrier pilot seeking to remain unbiased here, would it not be possible to change Advanced Drone Interfacing the same way if this goes through while retaining the delegation abilities?
How hard would it be to put in a tag on Advanced Drone Interfacing that goes "20% (or appropriate # %) bonus to fighter drone damage output?
It will reduce the solo-controlled number of drones in space, but keep the carrier at a decent level of damage.
Just a thought while I pick up where I left off. -------------------------------------------
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