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Saithe Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.09 07:59:00 - [361] LETS NERF EVERYTHING! ITS ALL TOO POWERFUL BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN FLY IT! NERF IT ALL!!! i cant fly a vaga nerf it. i cant fly a rapier nerf it. i cant fly carriers nerf them. i cant i cant i cant nerf nerf nerf.
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.11 00:39:00 - [362] bump. give us a response please devs _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.01.13 03:46:00 - [363] bump
Drash Kammatarr German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2008.01.13 12:56:00 - [364] Edited by: Drash Kammatarr on 13/01/2008 13:03:01 bump Yes, a response is needed, and that is not only by signature checking interns, pls ;) To add some argumentation to this: -A properly fit sabre costs about 30 mil at least. Thats 3 times the amount a properly fit T1 crusier costs, but it tanks better than a sabre (which doesn't tank at all). now since dictors are very often primaried in battles, a single warp disruption bubble could come now to as much as 30 million isk. What is the logic behind that? -Speed is the only defense for a interdictor. with the speed nerf, a interceptor with the scramble range bonus can easily kill a dictor, which ridicules the role of the dictor as an interceptor killer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.17 02:31:00 - [365] bump 30 mill for a single 2 minute bubble on a dictor... or, for 90 mill you can have a HIC that does the job and tanks better than battlecruisers... and if i septn the same stupid amounts of money as i used to on my old dictors, i can get a broadsword and phobos going faster than current dictors... wheres the logic zulupark? noone wanted this ship nerfed. please return it _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Angor The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.01.17 09:43:00 - [366] I used to love the sabre before the nerf now i hardly ever fly it, its a waste of 20+ mil. what was the nerf about 25%?... i think they should rethink this and give back 10-15% of its speed back. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Jallem Sims Minmatar Exploring Blind	Posted - 2008.01.17 11:55:00 - [367] Here to bump.... answer plz CCP! note, the amount of people not flying dictors anymore... note, your player community highlighted this along time ago... note, the few ships that could have caught nano hacs etc are now no longer capable and now you see more nano hacs safer and more dangerous. please also note.... speed is not a problem, it brings a different element to the game. You get LESS BLOBS and LESS Lag due to the reduced blob nature. Keep nerfing speed and this game will turn into a tanking ganking game! /me hasen't brought a dictor for over a month (i used to perma fly them) however a big up yours as now i fly my inty, and with heat i just hit 27.9k without gang bonuses!! Thats it, hit me again with your nerf bat and see howmany more players you loose!
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.17 17:07:00 - [368] they ***ed about our bubbles.. i think us dictor pilots could all come to an agreement.. make our bubble slast ONE minutes instead of two (and the old 4) and cut the launch time in half again.. this FORCES us to stay on the battlefield.. and not just warping in and out bubbling... <--- THAT is what people were crying over.. THAT is also a damn good solution without **ing off a small but dedicated part of your comunity... and i still think that aggro thing needs to be rethought.. maybe not removed.. but definately rethought and reapplied with a tweak or something _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
VoYvod Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.18 05:23:00 - [369] the speed nerf is ridiculous and pretty pointless tbh. i was messing around with my heretic , i put 3 warp core stabs on it just for a giggle, and it went almost 3k m/s with skills/ basic speed implants , then i put 2 overdrives and a nano , and it was going just under 4k m/s , no rigs. so pretty much you're better off fitting warp core stabs and save your isk. so fit some stabs , a cloak , mwd , 2 bubble launchers and just be annoying as all hell and not be able to do 1 of the dictors main roles which was to kill frigate classed vessels , ccp just keeps on failing - think before you nerf. p.s. might wanna check out cyno jammers/jump bridges/ - they're pretty unreasonabley safe.... and station services were to be killed by roaming gangs or roaming fleets ? almost the same hitpoints as a POS ....
Drash Kammatarr German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2008.01.18 18:08:00 - [370] Bump We, the customers, demand an answer! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Drash Kammatarr German Cyberdome Corp	Posted - 2008.01.24 15:51:00 - [371] bump! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.01.25 16:22:00 - [372] Edited by: Hab0k on 25/01/2008 16:26:00 So right now i am typing this on my psp because the only ship i ever enjoyed flying is now just horrible get this a sb killed my heretic that use to go onLy 6km not even very fast i dont think thats fair and i have maxed speed skLLz please teLL us or i wiLL most likely quiT along with mAny others
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.01.26 20:08:00 - [373] bump
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.26 21:55:00 - [374] yo ccp you could make them cost half as much and i would be cool with that if you insist on keeping the speed nerf or you could fix polycarbs/snakes and restore the dictors to what they were before
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:02:00 - [375] Wasting your time. The game is being geared towards blobs and idiots and changes like this are here to stay. The real issue is - the game should be relentlessly harsh, totally merciless - if you **** up, then you die. If you can't learn from your mistakes, then the game should not be for you. Remove people who dont speak from local channel, make a covops interdictor, increase the map size, make money harder to make, introduce more scrambling NPCs, make empire barren, reduce agent rewarwds, make POS fuel impossible to jump in capital ships, increase the number of gates in systems, make outposts destructible, fix the fleet system's bugs, un-nerf T2 ranged ammo etc.. that would be a fun game to play ;) I want a challenge, not lag, not who can bring most cap ships, not ganking idiots in asteroid belts to be the highlight of my game time... I dont care about how big my wallet is, nor how many cap ships I have - if I have to play in cruisers or t1, so be it, but I want it to _mean_ something when you score a kill, or when you take a hit. The quality of ideas and tactics should be the determining factor in who wins, and of course the quality of your comrades in game.. and if you dont agree with this, then frankly you're an idiot, you're playing for nothing, and you are killing this game. Bleh, wasting my breath again.. deaf ears..
Shriken Grey Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.27 20:27:00 - [376] I've cried myself to sleep every night since the dictor nerf....
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.28 10:17:00 - [377] i hear ya, only reason i log in now to eve is for a skill change or to use as a glorified chat room :P restore our dictors please.. how bout this? you give our bubbles a 1 minutes flight time, and return our speed.. meaning we have to stay on the battlefield in the heat twice as much (double our refire rate of course as well) _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Selnix Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.29 03:22:00 - [378] Just kinda wondering here, did the nerf accomplish what was intended? Before Trinity, interdictors were my favorite ships in game to fly and I managed to rack up 495 kills with them distributed more or less evenly between the Heretic and Eris. Never flew one of those ubersolowtfpwnmobile PolyGistiiSnakeSabres that people *****ed about (despite the fact that those pilots were putting over a billion isk on the line in a ship with little or no defenses). Never got to make it onto a mail merely by dropping the bubble, actually had to aggro and attack someone. Were they still super duper invulnerable pwnmobiles? Heck no, lost 11 of them along the way because I flew them for PVP, not just as a T2 shuttle that drops a bubble on someone and warps off. Didn't do the cloaking on the gate and dropping a bubble then jumping through stupidity. Actually tried to use T2 rockets, despite the reduction in speed because at the time that reduction was not devastating to the point that you would be getting run down and killed by the majority of HACs. My point? If the goal of the dictor nerf was to make people quit flying them, you guys accomplished it. After literally about a year of flying little other than that one class of ship and being perfectly happy to do so, you guys gave me reason to stop and join the countless lemmings that you have seeded, training for ships suited mainly for your baby that is blob warfare. Guess we are just telling small scale pvp outside of lowsec noob ganking goodbye.
McFly Path of Light R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.31 20:35:00 - [379] Anything ever going to help us dictor pilots out? Interceptors are funner with thier new cap stability bonuses and range bonus on the tackle variants...but I would really like to know If I can ever undock my flycatcher/heretic again.... Are we ever going to get our speed back? Is anything in the works? And if we can't have our speed back EVER, then lower our SigRadius... Dictors last 3 seconds when used in their intended role. Why do I have to die everytime my FC asks me to do my job? k, Heavy dictors are cool, I see em all over now, but I like manual piloting my dictor around and hence why I'm an Inty/Dictor Pilot... more entertaining combat manually flying... Please give it back... -- --my opinions do not reflect that of my corp nor my alliance--
Drash Kammatarr German Cyberdome Corp Star Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.02.03 03:17:00 - [380] I quit my Account today. About stuff...no you can't have it, it goes to my corp. The dictor nerf and the missing reasoning behind it was the final tiny bit that made me quit. There are many more countless reasons. I enjoyed Eve very much in the beginning. It's sad to see that it went from class to mass. With blob tactics beeing the only way to achieve something these days, dumb masses always succeed over intelligent small groups. Soloing? Forget about it, it's been "balanced". Had some nice times, the last half year though was a waste. Should have quit earlier. Thanks, Drash signing off --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.02.03 16:26:00 - [381] Originally by: Drash Kammatarr I quit my Account today. About stuff...no you can't have it, it goes to my corp. The dictor nerf and the missing reasoning behind it was the final tiny bit that made me quit. There are many more countless reasons. I enjoyed Eve very much in the beginning. It's sad to see that it went from class to mass. With blob tactics beeing the only way to achieve something these days, dumb masses always succeed over intelligent small groups. Soloing? Forget about it, it's been "balanced". Had some nice times, the last half year though was a waste. Should have quit earlier. Thanks, Drash signing off im getting to that point as well... i rarely play now. im sure they can check that to see its a fact. what PSSES me th * off is they wont even give us.. their source of income a ***** response1!!! noone wanted this nerf!!!!!! return our ships so we can go back to enjoy our game.. your game. the one we pay for thank you (sorry for my anger) _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.02.03 20:49:00 - [382] bump
Arcane Carnage The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.03 21:11:00 - [383] Originally by: Andreya bump. give us a response please devs QFT - un-nerf my crow killer! - Ures truly kickin' ass Carn
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.02.09 04:14:00 - [384] Give us a f[][][]ing reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL NOT LET THIS GO!!!! ZULU RAN OUT WHEN HE WAS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION! JUSt sO hE WOULDNT bE ATTACKED OR HAVE TO BE BARADED WITTH WHy HE DID WHAT HE DID! NORMMAL PILOTS W/o SNAKES AND GISTII'S WENT MAYBY 5.5KM/S.... TELL ME IF YOU COULDNT CATCH I SAW A GOD D[][]N RAPIER GOING 9KM/S SO THE ONLY WAY THAT SON OF A [][][][] WOULDNT BE ABLE TO WEB ANY CHAR IN TIME IS OFF THE F[][][]ING WALL STUPID! I NEED AN ANSWER, WE ALL DO.... WE WILL NOT SIT BY AND TAKE THIS! WE HAVE BEEN PATIANT LONG ENOUGH! THIS MESSEGE SPANS 13 F[][][]ING PAGES W/ AROUND 20-ISH POST TO EACH! THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ASKING WHY THIS HAPPENED AND GETTING BLAITENLY IGNORED! DUE TO THAT FACT I AM HERE BY DECLARING THAT IN THIS EXTREME CASE OF MY ISSUE YOUR SUPPORT TEAM WORK A FIX INTO THE EQUATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW AS WELL AS WE DO THAT THE ONLY WAY A SABRE, HERETIC, ERIS OR FLY CATCHER LIVES IS WITH THE SPEED TO AVOID THE BARRAGE INTENDED TO KILL.... THE DICTORS THAT MOVE FAST PUT JUST AS MUCH ISK INTO THE RAPIER PILOT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY! AND EVEN MOST WHO PUT 500M CAN ONLY (USE TO BE ABLE TO ONLY GO) 7-8KM/S! STILL THE RAPIER CATCHES THEM! YOU WHINE ABOUT HOW ITS NOT FAIR THAT A SABRE CAN GET OUT OF THE WEB RANGE IN TIME WHEN 99% OF SABRES NEVER COULD EVEN MOVE IN THE BEGINING BECAUSE THE RAPIER! THESE SUPER SHIPS ARE NOT AN EXPLOIT BUT AN INVESTMENT! If YOU CARE TO STOP US THAN YOU WILL SPENT THE AMOUNT OF ISK WE SPENT TO BETTER YOUR GOD D[][]N OWN SHIP! iTS LIKE YOU ARE OUT TO KILL US W/ THE NEW BONUSES FOR NEW WEBBING SHIPS! YOUVE ALLREADY SLOWED US DOWN! NOW YOU WANT TO LAUGH AT US BECAUSE YOUR LITTLE ****-ANT SHIPS SUCH AS ElECTRONIC ATTACK SHIPS WEB THE F[][]K OUT OF US AND SLAUTER US! IGNORANCE IS SO F[][][]ING BLISS! This catagory does not fall under the 5th bullet of the CoC because it is full of first hand events and information of facts about how you will not answer our requests and or see that just because you MIGHT HAVE died due to the god sabres people have you do not see that other ships are 100% more effective! we MUST put the isk like that into our ships to be effective! its the only way too us! This was not just RAMBLING this was me calling you out and stating every fact! Many people have stated facts however not even ONE d[][]n GM of forum mod or dev has commented! I understand you have made the new interdictors, however you cant put a self webbing mod on them (the bubbler) because that is just not reasonable! Right now i will say that if we do not get answered than you shall see a big issue! And if I am banned due to the former statements it will only show the community that you would silence one who Should have a free voice, to further your own agenda for personal intrests! Every one who has marked on this form thread will agree and stand behind me! I will say this only once more in such a long speach... -Respond-
Tate Aoko Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2008.02.09 07:54:00 - [385] Originally by: Dark 0men Hey, Zulupark, if dictors are meant to die after dropping one bubble, how come the launcher holds 10? This made me lol, also, hurry up and fire the stupid moron who thought up the dictor nerf.. thanks
SumDum AirHawk Alliance Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.02.09 08:16:00 - [386] Originally by: Hab0k Every one who has marked on this form thread will agree and stand behind me! I will say this only once more in such a long speach... -Respond- You are sure to be taken seriously to now that you have typed that in ALL CAPS! I can sense CCP is so moved by your tirade that my Flycatcher is speeding up as I type this. You rule!
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Karjala Inc. Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.02.09 12:20:00 - [387] Originally by: Tate Aoko Originally by: Dark 0men Hey, Zulupark, if dictors are meant to die after dropping one bubble, how come the launcher holds 10? Maybe activating interdiction launcher could reduce your speed by 90% and dropping a bubble would do equal damage to 6 em smartbombs in close vicinity?
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.02.11 21:11:00 - [388] Bam to the top
Hab0k	Posted - 2008.02.16 21:07:00 - [389] .
Kaykr	Posted - 2008.02.25 07:31:00 - [390] bump

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