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Gordon Red SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:30:00 - [331] I bet Zulu's secret EVE-char flies a MOM... (or a T1 industial )
Goshinko State War Academy	Posted - 2007.12.23 17:04:00 - [332] Absolutely genius. I'm **ing begging one of the lead devs to remove Zulupark, he's ruining Eve. Damn, if anything can out-tank what it's scrambling, I guess we should nerf those too, because they can scramble forever? Originally by:** IHeartYou However, Crows seem to suit me best because it's just so much fun to toy with your target, then own them with your 150-200dps.
Dark 0men Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:32:00 - [333] Hey, Zulupark, if dictors are meant to die after dropping one bubble, how come the launcher holds 10?
Hertford Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 21:03:00 - [334] Originally by: Dark 0men Hey, Zulupark, if dictors are meant to die after dropping one bubble, how come the launcher holds 10? Oh man, that's class.
Ariel Dawn Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.23 22:57:00 - [335] Just gonna throw in a /sign, they need the extra speed to survive.
JForce The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.23 23:18:00 - [336] You guys are perfect stereotype of Eve-whiners. The ship you fly gets nerfed, and you instantly threaten to kill yourselves if it isn't reversed. Have you considered that Dictors are still uber-fast? They're still pretty damn quick, they're just not invincible fast anymore. But the main thing you need to think about is the fact that the bubble you drop is often the key to dozens of people dying. It's not like they nerfed your speed and left you with nothing. Your role is entirely intact. The fact you get primaried is an indication of how serious a threat you're seen as. Would you rather the bubble didn't do anything? That way no one would bother shooting you, and you'd be happy?
Hab0k	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:15:00 - [337] And exactly how fast do you think we go?
Jallem Sims Minmatar Exploring Blind	Posted - 2007.12.24 10:06:00 - [338] I hear of another nerf? being playing lite* recently, kinda a big kick with the dictor nerf. For those that site and mention the whining eve players, its just that to use the sphere launcher requires heavy training too. It simply requires serious dedication. Yes most Dictor pilots (with gun skills) tend to go for a sabre, but not all, due to a lot of people specilising for the Crow (which uses Missile launchers). The are a lot of reasons highlighted above and in most 'whine' threads to do with this nerf... but are friendly Dev does not really read this cause as someone highlighted (i think so too) he must have been FC'ing and lost a fleet of BS to a top Pilot, or lost his mom due to a bubble. sadly, as i have specilised for this for the last 3 months or more (i forget when i started boosting my skills for an interdictor) i only got about 3 weeks flying pre nerf, and it was so much fun!! Yes, i have topped out my skills for this... i do have lvl5 in acceleration control, full implants.... i fly at times with faction gear. topping out my gun skills, but due to me being young, i still have lots to learn, such as sheild skills.... I have even gone out my way to try many different set ups to see if the known standard is the best. Cause, if you actually fly one of these ships, you need to be at your optimal or die! And you spend ages thinking and testing. However... now i fly my inty more again... its not as fun, but atleast it makes sense to put my speed skills to good use. And now, i smile when i am tackling nano hacs. Also, notice how sabre prices are dropping... more Heavy Dictors being used... less call for dictor pilots. Just the way it is now, i have no doubt both could have played a role and made fleet battles interesting with more options. But, i think i will still fly it.... just not my uber set up unless i go solo. WHICH REALLY makes me smile.. cause all this was about how Dictors sit on gates solo tackling Inties.... Guess what, unless you fly a 10k inty, i'll still get you ;-D All this has done, is increased the gap between noobs and high skill training players.... So... to conclude, its either my stupid fast inty, or my stupid fast dictor! Keep Nerfing Dev! I'll see you in space when i tackle you and smile when you smack! Most likly when you fly your nano hac # more nerfs to speed, noobs will die more in 0.0.... they have less options to train for now... ##note, one day we'll all be flying the same ship again, and again, and again, cause everyone likes to fly the best :P you loose!
Shin Mao Caldari AFC Death or Glory	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:51:00 - [339] Dictors must not be interceptors on steroids, but speed nerf make them one-off ship. Maybe add some reasonable bonuses? 10% signature reduction per skill level, for example, and cut slightly base signature 20-30%. Or give them special AB bonus, it will be working on them 200 - 400% better, not fast enough to catch inty, but fast enough to drop probe and run away alive. X-ray nuclear pumped laser:
Uncle Smokey	Posted - 2007.12.25 10:57:00 - [340] Ah come on, even if flycatcher and sabre are practically immobile, you can still catch t1's and afs with eris and heretic ;D Have some sense of humor, its a good joke. I have. ...and i never specialized in dictors :D That "need for speed" must refer to a narcotic addiction rather than any ingame effect .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. \o/ EVERYBODY SAY HELL YEAH! \o/

Sioluk Minmatar Oser's Shipping and Manufacturing Inc. Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.26 19:55:00 - [341] bumpy bumpy ccp, we, the pilots of dictors in this farce you call eve online, want a proper response to the nerf of interdictors. many agree that there are 'special cases' where a pilot may spent hundreds of millions (up to billions) to make this ship class deadly, but in reality, most pilots are not willing or capable of spending that kind of isk to have the ultimate small car. With MWD, a dictor is the size of a damn battleship. If flown by a competant pilot, they could do some amazing things, but not everyone is a 'master' of thier ship. Give us a response on why you nerfed Dictors, of all things, rather than just bringing polycarbs and implants in-line. I used to be fairly confident in flying my sabre, but now i wont even purchase another. i'd rather fly a hyena with my alt in a crow or raptor because really, its far more effective... and about the same cost to fit those two ships as it was to BUY my damn sabre. the lack of response in this matter, through 12 pages of complaints about this nerf, makes us believe you either a) dont care. b) can't come up with a proper reason/excuse on the nerf. To say that dictors needed a drawback for its speed/role, is like saying you've never flown one as a pilot with average skills would, and/or you've just plain not flown one period. okay okay... Or you've been ganked because you, yourselves dont know how to fly your own ships and let people who have specialized for this ship class spank you. It disgusts me that you have not replied to this thread to explain to your subscribers why this nerf was needed.. and seriously.. ALL dictors? wtf are you thinking? To Zulupark: dont quit your day job, your endless 'reasoning' for nerfing various ships is pathetic. Formulate an adequate answer, or get someone who understands Public relations to do it for you to post with. because you dont deserve your position in game design based on the stuff we have seen you do to this game, and the responses you have given people when questioned. ------- [-Sio-] Oser's Shipping and Manufacturing Inc., CEO Endless Horizon
Jagerin Gallente Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2007.12.26 22:39:00 - [342] >With MWD, a dictor is the size of a damn battleship. If flown by a competant pilot, they could do some amazing things, but not everyone is a 'master' of thier ship. You are wrong, with MWD they are more like moons Give dictors old speed, boost Eris (7 turrets, -1 low +1 med)& Flycatcher (a bit more base speed than before), or give professional inty pilots something new - maybe tier2 dictors, without bubler buth with nice speed & firepower (better give dictors old speed)
stahmul	Posted - 2007.12.27 10:03:00 - [343] Zulupark is a pathetic excuse for a dev. He's only shown just how clueless he is about the issues at hand. I really wish CCP wouldn't post up on MonsterJobs.com to find themselves their employees. It'd be nice if they actually played the game before they were hired in to do balancing work. Flat-out, Trinity is a mess. The patching was a mess (and in itself a pathetic excuse for a release [We followed the instructions on our installer scripts, WE SWEAR!!! IT JUST DIDN'T WORK RIGHT!!]) Granted, the extra 10 days was nice (but my roommate who didn't install Premium got 14 days free and my second account got none? wtg CCP. Suuree, I'll re-subscribe cause you sent me mail telling me about all the great stuff Trinity has!!) but an extra 10 days isn't going to make me want to play the game anymore than I already don't. Speed on a greater scale hasn't been nerfed again yet and I still see the game as a waste of time. The whole "committing to the fight" methodology is geared at the game being a perpetual isk and time sink at best. I mean, did you ever wonder why CCP wants you to commit to a fight and destroy or lose a ship? It's simple, you have to play more then, spend more money, to replace the isk in the economy that's now gone. This means their flawed game model can make you spend more time doing mindless tasks like ratting, mining, t2 production (of which I've ceased on my end /w my bpos because of the utter failure that was the t2 component market after Trinity) The best part of the t2 component market is it was warned that there would be shortages--- So CCP took it one step further and **** up all the silos and reactors so things would really be a mess. Letting POS wars happen with the 0rof bug still in effect? then telling people they'd be banned if they used it? What the **? They didn't hear about it through the forums? Most of us here knew about the POS bugs entirely before they were banned, and... CCP bans POS warfare without any clue as to what was really going wrong? All that aside, I agree with my main manlove Hab0k. It's sad when a battlecruiser can go faster than an interdictor. The only reason being CCP wasn't inventive enough to give us useful t2 ship classes so instead they made other ship classes even less desirable on a large scale to make way for some half-assed excuse for a new ship? At least now it runs in Linux, and if it doesn't do so well? Who cares; We'll all be in turtle tanked battleships or in carriers fighter drone spamming three months down the line. You don't need any more than 5fps to f1, f2, f3......
Hab0k	Posted - 2007.12.29 22:32:00 - [344] This is actualy making me laugh! You dont understand what this is doing to you? CCP, your getting slammed for what you have done and you have no answer or fix to it... Not even a damn pilots-comp to support the thing as a half and half type thing! You dont answer because you cant! And thats the truth... but this thorn in your side is not going away... and it will continue to Become infected!
Hab0k	Posted - 2007.12.31 04:20:00 - [345] Every day i will make this go to the top every day because i will personaly make sure
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.12.31 06:46:00 - [346] I myself wont let this slide either... CCP cant even give up a reply, or even their thoughts as to why they think a dictor nerf a warrented. i know they probably wont read this far into our thread. but lemme at least try one suggestion instead (ignoring all the garbage that came out of zulu's mouth on that live dev blog) people complain about speed.. in general. im a nano pilot, i put billions into my speed, i dont think i should be invincible and im not. but i think the game should be fair. all these quoted speeds are with my skills, imps, and faction mods, dont base this on your average pilot my intys go around 11.5km my dictors (sabre AND eris) went about 7.5 my nanohacs go round 4.5-5km and my vaga goes 7.5 i dont use snakes, but have maxed skills and use 'decent' implants, i polycarb every ship i have... currently, thats 11 ships in my hangars that are poly'd now. lemme do some checking WITHOUT POLYCARBS by replacing them with aux thrusters and nanofibers (instead of overdrives to avoid stack penaties) now my intys go 9km now, with dictor nerf my heretic and sabre goes 3.4 thats with aux thrust and expensive implants heres the best part my hacs go 3.5-3.9 ... and are much less agile! which is another thing people complain about.. and my vaga goes 6km now on a side note, an after insurance payout stabber goes 5km for a measly 10 mill in fittings and ship ok, on to the topic with snakes.. i dont use em, never will... but i dont think they are in need of a nerf, personally i wouldnt care if they were not in game anymore but whatever.. they ARE very expensive,, and they do NOT make someone invincible, ive killed 3 known pilots myself with snakes, and podded them with dictors bubbles (which we obviously dont use anymore) now, back to the topic of speed, and dictors... get rid of polycarbs if you want everyone to finaly stop ****ing in Eve about nano crap! even us nano pilots wont care, as long as you stop nerfing our ships (and return our dictors) why wont we care? because if NOONE has polycarbs, then guess what? everyone who was faster or slower than you before,,, is STILL faster or slower... and it gives those whiney battleships pown everything* pilots a wee bit better chance of catching us... and allows financially poor inty pilots a wee bit better chance as they wont be up against poly'd hacs. about dictors? 90% of them werent that 9km bullcrap you keep seeing.. you know what that was? overheating... most sabres topped out at 5.5km maybe 6km, and if a sabre/heretic awnts to polycarb his ship, he would get 7km.. BUT! could easily get killed by ONE inty and ONE anyyyyything type of ship, recon/ewarfrig/bs/cruiser _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.12.31 06:51:00 - [347] and on that note... its not OUR faults this is happening.. for some godforsaken reason, you guys introduced speed combat boosters, speed rigs, 50% additional overheating increase ... you game WAS balaned... you guys messed it up. and somehow. my only fun class of ship to fly got nerfed to hell. to the point were a nano cruiser can catch them... hell a nano mega is faster than a flycatcher pretty much. please. return our dictors to normal, its already bad enough dealing with hyenas and kitsunes now (even the keres or a setinal with get a pre-nerf dictor killed) and nanohacs..... fix the dictors, remove polycarbs.. and all of eve is saved _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Norma Cenza	Posted - 2007.12.31 16:42:00 - [348] fix dictors nerf dual polycarb, multi odj fits problem solved -now just eliminate proto and improved cloaks and put in stealth devices that reduce sig by 80%.
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.12.31 16:58:00 - [349] Edited by: SATAN on 31/12/2007 16:59:30 Its about time you guys realized that no amount of common sense is going to change the minds of the balance team. They obviously know their stuff far better than any of us. For instance while listening to the recording of the Dev chat I heard a really informative piece of knowledge given out by our favorite balancer Mr. Zulu. He basically spills the beans about how nano ships are such a problem because some of them have 6 low slots in which they can fit 6 overdrives. And here I was all along thinking that the stacking nerf was already in place. So you know the morale of the story as written by Zulu, go fit 6 overdrives on your Sabre .
Hab0k	Posted - 2007.12.31 20:16:00 - [350] yup, agreed, pollys are over powered but at this point in time its the only way to keep the interdictors up to a decent speed, because the nerf. But since we already gave them the idea, of which they had no clue about due to the fact that they just put a bandana over there eyes spin them selfs around in there desks and whatever they land on with there finger as they spin, is the next nerfed ship that they have never flown so its cool by them... Hehe, i just got a rather funny picture of that.

Hab0k	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:13:00 - [351] CCP, An Answer?
Jallem Sims Minmatar Exploring Blind	Posted - 2008.01.03 08:50:00 - [352] just reading the last few replys.... now that rigs are on KM's, you'll find less polies on speed ships cause they cost so much and hurts stats! putting more than 3 OD's stack.... and nanos reduce weight and such have smaller bonuses to speed at a cost to armor (so a nano fitted ship becomes easier to kill) The are lots of varibles to speed, and will always be, no matter what we do to nerf it.... learn heat and you'll get a great boost to speed when you need it. Which is really the point, these ships are a problem when they need the speed :P The 25% reduction in speed is nasty, pointless, and has seen a reduction in use of dictors.... no one wants to fly them now :-( I don't anymore really. The sad thing is, this destroyer class of ship has gone the same way as the destroyers.... why do with have this class of ship again? anyway, speed will always be there for the ships that need it. Nerfing it is pointless and for only those that can't or not willing to find away to tackle it. Speed also creates more playing options I've not really fought in many lagged out fights when speed is used... tbh, who wants to take there nano rigged ship that costs so much to a lag fest. Final thought...... if you ever, ever catch a nano****, speed freak... POD THEM! lol.... they will think twice before engaging you next time :P imagine the implants he could have in... fly safe o7
Drash Kammatarr German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2008.01.05 15:03:00 - [353] Edited by: Drash Kammatarr on 05/01/2008 15:04:45 Simple question: How can EvE evolve to the best mmorpg? Answer: It can't. Evolution is in part about improvement. The useful setups (genes) should prevail and inspire others to use them as well. CCP counters this player driven evolution by nerfing everything in this game that is good. It seems like they pick on every intelligent setup and try to reduce it's efficiency. Mediocrity is CCPs ultimate goal. Let there be no outstanding achievements. Almost every T2 item has seen a nerf since it's implementation. So the technology in EVE takes a huge leap from time to time, just to fall back to a lower level a few weeks later. Besides that beeing absolutely daft, it destroys the experience of a truly persistent gaming universe. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Remlin Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.06 01:49:00 - [354] Edited by: Remlin on 06/01/2008 01:53:14 I've been playing Call of Duty 4 more often since Trinity release. I'm kind of vulnerable at the moment ... right now if another MMORPG looked shiny enough, I would stray. I was a dictor pilot. I spent many months focusing to unlock there entertianment experience of what I was told to expect for close to a year. REAL TIME spent waiting to enjoy something I can't use now without destroying my enjoyment of playing EvE Online. I tried to make things work Post Trinity patch but it cost too much time and effort to recover almost guaranteed losses. Originally by: CCP Zulupark Being able to bubble up a 20km radius with a very very small ship should have some drawbacks don't you think? It shouldn't be a no-brainer to do in my opinion. If the above quote is truly what CCP Zulupark had said then I'm really saddened that he cared so little to understand. "Aut Vincere Aut Mori"
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.06 06:43:00 - [355] have you not heard his live dev blog? from his side, he sounded very unproffesional, and he showed he knew very little about the game. i was a dedicated dictor pilot as well.. and seriously, listening to what he had to say on that blog about dictors infuriated me. _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
hammyhamm GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.06 06:53:00 - [356] I still don't quite understand the reasoning behind the interdictor speed nerf... maybe you could say that it is possible to go very fast in them but to be honest you could spend the same amount of money on any ship and find a very big improvement like that. It has pretty much made them even bigger paper aeroplanes in my eyes...
Orin Fatch The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.01.06 10:16:00 - [357] Edited by: Orin Fatch on 06/01/2008 10:17:34 Originally by: hammyhamm I still don't quite understand the reasoning behind the interdictor speed nerf... maybe you could say that it is possible to go very fast in them but to be honest you could spend the same amount of money on any ship and find a very big improvement like that. It has pretty much made them even bigger paper aeroplanes in my eyes... I agree completely. They are already paper thin. There ment to kill interceptors/ frigates! How do they plan that happening if they cant keep up with them in the first place... ffs. Speed tanks etc are being being nerf as it is with the amount of webbing bonuses on new ships. This plus a base speed penalty is ridiculed. ---- There will be blood..
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.01.06 11:28:00 - [358] Wish they increased dictor bubble radius to 24km at least.
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.08 16:09:00 - [359] Originally by: Shinori Wish they increased dictor bubble radius to 24km at least. how about 48, then i wont complain.. or be able to warp cloaked :P see. now THATS overpwoered :P by the way. i now have my broadsword going faster than my heretic and sabre.... is that ok ccp? .. or can we make everyone happy except zulupark by changes things back to the way they were... speaking of... notice how everyones hating the whole capital blob thing... dont you think our pre nerf dictors were at least a step in the right direction to combat that more important problem... return our dictors to normal again please, you guys still still havent let us know why you changed em in the first place.... this isnt a rant, this is a customer asking a question. _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Flaming Butterfly	Posted - 2008.01.08 16:43:00 - [360] very disappointing. 13 pages of people wanting to find out why the problem was the dictor and not the polycarb/odj. Seriously, WTF? Nerf PolyCarbs/ODJ, restore the dictors!



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