heh - the argument of the defeated deployed.

Your own logic argues for it. For a large portion of 2010 GSF was a deadbeat alliance in Syndicate. Of course it would be in their interest to argue that Tech needed to be nerfed - cause they had none - wait maybe they stole a moon or two off of Evoke?

At that point GSF : "Team Tech" ratios would have been about 2:180

Actually it makes more sense that they argued for the nerfing of Tech then than it does now.

whoa don't dis LODRA

This thread has made me want to vote against him. Why? Because I'm full of hate. I have a particular hatred to wannabe politicians. Vote against the Mingtanni, it's a vote against the system.

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This just in, courtesy of Kugu:

"IGÇÖm the only GSF candidate this time; Vile Rat is sick of Iceland. WeGÇÖre going to need a metric fuckload of votes to secure the Chairmanship and - ideally - an indisputable mandate. IGÇÖd like to see us be able to c&p a ridiculous vote total as a one-line reply to every shitbird eve-o poster whining about us for the next year".

The Mittani, State of the Goonion, Feb 20, 2012.

That'll shut me up, i'm sure

1. For what purpose did you post that here? it contributes nothing to your argument and detracts nothing from the argument of rationality.
2. It was just (less than 15 minutes ago) posted on Evenews24 feel free to acknowledge your real source.

This just in, courtesy of Kugu:

"IGÇÖm the only GSF candidate this time; Vile Rat is sick of Iceland. WeGÇÖre going to need a metric fuckload of votes to secure the Chairmanship and - ideally - an indisputable mandate. IGÇÖd like to see us be able to c&p a ridiculous vote total as a one-line reply to every shitbird eve-o poster whining about us for the next year".

The Mittani, State of the Goonion, Feb 20, 2012.

That'll shut me up, i'm sure

I can see having a rational argument with some people might be impossible.

When it comes to development of a game I pay for, meta interests are very relevant especially when it neglects certain portions of the playerbase.

Depsite that you ask for confirmation of motivations, done, but don't project judgement on me to validate your own preferences as a result. Vote for who you like of course, no problem, I will do so likewise, but don't raise certain CSM members up to be objective as an argument when clearly they are not.

So it took you longer than 2 hours and 20 posts to make the connection and then post something random about the CSM that was in the blog?

However, my core argument here has been of one of motivations attributed without proof. Reilly is; essentially, putting words into his mouth that there is no proof of. I don't like that.

Huh? I just opened it 10 minutes ago. I usually check out the "Goonswarm Federation: The Last Bastion Of True "Literature" Chat" thread, among others. I just loved that quote.

Does it actually matter?

Thread derailment is often used as a device for an individual who knows s/he has bitten off more than they can chew to sidle out without admitting their position is untenable.

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Will you be able to distance yourself from your argument, that the only reason Mittani wants the nerf of Tech is out pure self interest in the short term even though:
It has been illustrated by goons posting that it is long term proposition they have been advocating since 2010
Logic determines that it was more in their interest in 2010 than it is now yet they still persist to advocate the change
Your original argument contains no factual evidence and is simply an inference that is out of context with history.

No, you won't be able to alter the topic until you have taken your soap box back to your captain's quarters.

My position is the same.

I.e. unproven.

I.e. unproven.

Yes, as stated repeatedly Tippia, this is my opionion. Learn to ******* read.

Yes, as stated repeatedly Tippia, this is my opionion.

And he is going to continue metagaming the CSM.

Dont pin your **** posting practices on me



The only thing you prove is that they have been advocating tech nerfs when they are at a disadvantage. Which is kinda my point. you havent dug up anything from when they were at the top of the tech mountain.

My position is the same.

Even assuming that's true, what's the problem?

Are you seriously asking why a player elected body who are there to represent the playerbase dealing with CCP to the benefit of EVE Online the game, is instead used as a vehicle to further CSM members in game interests?

Things you've ignored in your opinion forming 'analysis":
Goons were advocated for the nerfing of Tech 18months before the term "Tech Team" was coined.
Goons were advocating for the nerfing of Super Capitals 18 months before the term "Tech Team" was coined.

There may be a level of self interest involved, however to argue that advocating Mittani is only out of self interest for an upcoming conflict with the "Tech Team" is pretty clearly a falsehood.

By the way when were Goons top of the Tech Pile?