Originally by: Slaves Miner

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Well I personally dont see any difference in what time of day i connect, it never just disconnects on me unless i dsynch if it did I wouldnt pay/play. Im on BT broadband and never get a problem and blaming it on world economics is a bit daft ey? Seems as the world was doing it last month the same and noone was crying about lost connections then. I reckon half of u need to get the spyware and garbage off ur PC's and the rest need to dig into their pockets and get a decent ISP not some buy one get one free offer u found in the bottom of u shredded wheats. If this prob is sooo bad why is everyone I know unaffected???

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Originally by: Tebinium Asteri

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Edited by: Tebinium Asteri on 24/06/2008 10:55:25
I'd give 10 to 1 that Limelight did a blanket upgrade to all their gear without testing it first (some Cisco path or whatever). recovering from that could take them months!

With all the SLA payments they will have to make (even if a single ISP (!) somehow screwed their whole network) they may as well call in the Administrators now :-/

Also, even though it is CCPs network provider, the responsibility to provide the EVE Online service lies with CCP. How can they refuse to reimburse losses, both in-game and for subscriptions? they reimburse us and then hit the network provider via the SLA (unless they don't HAVE an SLA...).

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Originally by: Zanpt

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A simpler and less frustrating approach is to idle one or more accounts until you have taken three times the denied reimbursement in RL money directly out of CCP's revenue stream, and tell them you're doing it. That's why I never pay for more than 30 days at a time. I retain the option to let one or more accounts expire within 30 days of finding something CCP does to be unacceptable. Each account left idle for one day costs CCP about 50 cents U.S. It doesn't sound like much, but it's about 5 million ISK. It doesn't have to be enough money to actually hurt CCP; it just has to be enough in equivalent ISK to balance things for you. That balance is so much better than the frustration of thinking you can't do anything about a denied petition or crappy lag and disconnects.

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Originally by: Zanpt

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A simpler and less frustrating approach is to idle one or more accounts until you have taken three times the denied reimbursement in RL money directly out of CCP's revenue stream, and tell them you're doing it. That's why I never pay for more than 30 days at a time. I retain the option to let one or more accounts expire within 30 days of finding something CCP does to be unacceptable. Each account left idle for one day costs CCP about 50 cents U.S. It doesn't sound like much, but it's about 5 million ISK. It doesn't have to be enough money to actually hurt CCP; it just has to be enough in equivalent ISK to balance things for you. That balance is so much better than the frustration of thinking you can't do anything about a denied petition or crappy lag and disconnects.

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Originally by: Jed Clampett

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Originally by: Zanpt

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A simpler and less frustrating approach is to idle one or more accounts until you have taken three times the denied reimbursement in RL money directly out of CCP's revenue stream, and tell them you're doing it. That's why I never pay for more than 30 days at a time. I retain the option to let one or more accounts expire within 30 days of finding something CCP does to be unacceptable. Each account left idle for one day costs CCP about 50 cents U.S. It doesn't sound like much, but it's about 5 million ISK. It doesn't have to be enough money to actually hurt CCP; it just has to be enough in equivalent ISK to balance things for you. That balance is so much better than the frustration of thinking you can't do anything about a denied petition or crappy lag and disconnects.

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LOL - I am not going to open multiple accounts to play games with CCP revenue. Nor deny myself any usage possible. Bites me more than CCP.

Sort of like falling down that stairs on purpose so you can file complaints against a landlord. BUt I can understand that it suits some people.

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Originally by: Willford Bremly

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Originally by: Zanpt

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A simpler and less frustrating approach is to idle one or more accounts until you have taken three times the denied reimbursement in RL money directly out of CCP's revenue stream, and tell them you're doing it. That's why I never pay for more than 30 days at a time. I retain the option to let one or more accounts expire within 30 days of finding something CCP does to be unacceptable. Each account left idle for one day costs CCP about 50 cents U.S. It doesn't sound like much, but it's about 5 million ISK. It doesn't have to be enough money to actually hurt CCP; it just has to be enough in equivalent ISK to balance things for you. That balance is so much better than the frustration of thinking you can't do anything about a denied petition or crappy lag and disconnects.

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Hey your the guy that explained how he deactivated six out of his eight accounts(or some stupid number) whenever he was angry at CCP. I remember that post. It was when eve kept postponing the server to come back up and everyone was *****ing. Some flawed logic there.

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Originally by: Zanpt

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Originally by: Willford Bremly

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Originally by: Zanpt

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A simpler and less frustrating approach is to idle one or more accounts until you have taken three times the denied reimbursement in RL money directly out of CCP's revenue stream, and tell them you're doing it. That's why I never pay for more than 30 days at a time. I retain the option to let one or more accounts expire within 30 days of finding something CCP does to be unacceptable. Each account left idle for one day costs CCP about 50 cents U.S. It doesn't sound like much, but it's about 5 million ISK. It doesn't have to be enough money to actually hurt CCP; it just has to be enough in equivalent ISK to balance things for you. That balance is so much better than the frustration of thinking you can't do anything about a denied petition or crappy lag and disconnects.

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Hey your the guy that explained how he deactivated six out of his eight accounts(or some stupid number) whenever he was angry at CCP. I remember that post. It was when eve kept postponing the server to come back up and everyone was *****ing. Some flawed logic there.

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No, not flawed. I do the same with all vendors who displease me. Life is too short to go around with the pent-up frustration of paying a vendor again and again but getting less than satisfactory product or service. I regulate how much business I give to vendors on the basis of how well they do for me. I do this with convenience stores, supermarkets, computer stores, doctors, pharmacies, dry cleaners, banks, phone companies, internet service providers, online services, etc. If a vendor displeases me I rotate my business away from them for a time, or discontinue it entirely for a time. I do this because the money I spend is the only really effective weapon I have against incompetence and shoddy products and services. It doesn't even matter whether or not anyone else does this; I do it and it brings me balance and peace of mind. It evens the score on my books, which is all that really matters.

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Originally by: vanessca

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Originally by: Zanpt

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Crazy talk

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Get a life.

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Originally by: Captain Hexagorn

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I have been having connection issues from the the day the big patch came out i was in a mission and got dced by the time i got back on i had 10% structure left on my raven then ...

2008.06.23 01:48:00

Victim: Captain Hexagorn
Corp: East India tea Co
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Raven
System: Nibainkier
Security: 0.7
Damage Taken: 58188

Involved parties:

Name: Paradise Cruise Missile / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 58188

Destroyed items:

Damage Control I
400mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 28
Infiltrator I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Salvage Tackle I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 28
Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 289 (Cargo)
Hornet I, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 25

Dropped items:

Nuclear M, Qty: 9
Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 295 (Cargo)
Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I, Qty: 2
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 26
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 297 (Cargo)
Large Neutron Saturation Injector I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction, Qty: 2
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Qty: 3
Invulnerability Field I
Salvager I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I
Nuclear M, Qty: 239 (Cargo)
Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 366 (Cargo)
Ballistic Control System I
Cross-linked Bolt Array I
Warrior I, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay)
Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 54
Hornet I (Drone Bay)

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Originally by: Alexandros Balfros

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Originally by: Captain Hexagorn

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I have been having connection issues from the the day the big patch came out i was in a mission and got dced by the time i got back on i had 10% structure left on my raven then ...

2008.06.23 01:48:00

Victim: Captain Hexagorn
Corp: East India tea Co
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Raven
System: Nibainkier
Security: 0.7
Damage Taken: 58188

Involved parties:

Name: Paradise Cruise Missile / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 58188

Destroyed items:

Damage Control I
400mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 28
Infiltrator I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Salvage Tackle I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 28
Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 289 (Cargo)
Hornet I, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 25

Dropped items:

Nuclear M, Qty: 9
Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 295 (Cargo)
Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I, Qty: 2
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 26
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 297 (Cargo)
Large Neutron Saturation Injector I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction, Qty: 2
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Qty: 3
Invulnerability Field I
Salvager I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I
Nuclear M, Qty: 239 (Cargo)
Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 366 (Cargo)
Ballistic Control System I
Cross-linked Bolt Array I
Warrior I, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay)
Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 54
Hornet I (Drone Bay)

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Well with that fit its hardly surprising >.>

On topic i've had no connection issues that weren't as a result of a dodgy wireless connection all been working fine here for ages :)

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Originally by: txloc

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this is not good for the EVE...alot of plyers have left this game for the nonstop...problems,you pay money amonth to play agame that does not work right...."you guys"really need toget it together...i know at my job,if there was this many problems there would be aserious change...it is not good for the consumer.....and it is very hard to tell others to come play agame that doesn't work right......JUST FIX THE GAME --to many people frm around the world are not HAPPY---

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Originally by: Avon

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Originally by: txloc

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this is not good for the EVE...alot of plyers have left this game for the nonstop...problems,you pay money amonth to play agame that does not work right...."you guys"really need toget it together...i know at my job,if there was this many problems there would be aserious change...it is not good for the consumer.....and it is very hard to tell others to come play agame that doesn't work right......JUST FIX THE GAME --to many people frm around the world are not HAPPY---

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Fixing the game is certainly the job of CCP.
Fixing the internet? That's going to cost you more than 15bux

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Originally by: Meridius Dex

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I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability

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