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Spang
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.06.24 20:06:00 -
[421]
I can't even see the server, all I get is status unknown. :(
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AceMonter
Domini Umbrus Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.06.24 20:10:00 -
[422]
Cmon guys !! i just want to play for more than 3 minutes...!
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Marcus Tedric
Tedric Enterprises The Star League
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Posted - 2008.06.24 20:45:00 -
[423]
Still a serious issue - and we're only 30miles from the server farm!
Dear CCP,
Quite aware that's it's not your fault (well, I sincerely hope it's not), but any pressure you can bring to bear with RL-iskies at stake can only assist.
MT
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Chomapuraku
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.24 22:04:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Captain Hexagorn I have been having connection issues from the the day the big patch came out i was in a mission and got dced by the time i got back on i had 10% structure left on my raven then ...
2008.06.23 01:48:00
Victim: Captain Hexagorn Corp: East India tea Co Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Raven System: Nibainkier Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 58188
Involved parties:
Name: Paradise Cruise Missile / Sansha's Nation (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 58188
Destroyed items:
Damage Control I 400mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 28 Infiltrator I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Salvage Tackle I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 28 Havoc Heavy Missile, Qty: 289 (Cargo) Hornet I, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 25
Dropped items:
Nuclear M, Qty: 9 Scourge Heavy Missile, Qty: 295 (Cargo) Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I, Qty: 2 Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 26 Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 297 (Cargo) Large Neutron Saturation Injector I Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction, Qty: 2 XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Qty: 3 Invulnerability Field I Salvager I Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I Nuclear M, Qty: 239 (Cargo) Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 366 (Cargo) Ballistic Control System I Cross-linked Bolt Array I Warrior I, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay) Thunderbolt Heavy Missile, Qty: 54 Hornet I (Drone Bay)
buddy, that raven was ruined the moment you stepped into it. whining about something that CCP can't fix makes you look like enough of a muppet already, but that raven fit makes us wonder how long it would've lasted anyways
oh, and insurance ftw. that t1 fitting couldn't have cost you more than a mil in total, so you should be out no more than 20 mil
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Red Anderson
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Posted - 2008.06.24 22:26:00 -
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id like to complain... before id like to express how much fun it is to play and be apart of a rad gaming community. i am disappointed with the disconnects and look forward to a quick fix. its really lame to be raiding a pirate base one second then to be disconnected and reconnect to my ship destroyed with some stranger looting my wreck. |
Laydee
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Posted - 2008.06.24 23:11:00 -
[426]
I live in the East Midlands in the UK, and historically I can remember my tracert going through Limewire.
I'm somewhat intrigued to note now that the packs from my ISP (Virgin nT NTL) Get to London Via Frankfurt now O-o
But anyway; I know and you should all accept/realise that CCP can NOT control the routes; thats like saying that this _gym_ can control the roads that lead to their premises. Sure they can place themselves in propitious locations, but I doubt that anyone can say that putting their cluster at london Telehouse was a *bad* or shortsighted idea; I mean seriously ? Come on!
CCP have made a great effort thus-far by removing this dodgy route and I hope they maintain a similar approach in the future, it's not the first time Limewire have appeared in this capacity and I daresay it won't be the last.
If it helps anyone; I made myself a sacrificial subject and downloaded the optional patch yesterday. I spent a good 5 hours without interruption involved in Factional warfare in and around Amamake - not one disconnect.
Please everyone, chill out a bit - give CCP the support they need and let us hope that their new approach gives them enough clout to stop this from happening again, (well for anything other then outright hardware failure!)
Peace out folks
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Kaya Divine
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Posted - 2008.06.24 23:21:00 -
[427]
In last hour I got DC`ed 6 times.
I consulted moralists to learn how to appear philosophers to find out what to think and novelists to see what I could get away with and in the end it all came down to one principle:win or die. |
Laydee
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Posted - 2008.06.24 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Divine In last hour I got DC`ed 6 times.
Can you post what your traceroute to Tranquility is ? "tracert 87.237.38.200" if you don't know the IP...
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Alpha Otoko
Malum Intentio The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2008.06.24 23:48:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Alpha Otoko About UDP and WHY it wouldn't work for EVE.
UDP is a simpler message-based connectionless protocol. In connectionless protocols, there is no effort made to setup a dedicated end-to-end connection. Communication is achieved by transmitting information in one direction, from source to destination without checking to see if the destination is still there, or if it is prepared to receive the information. With UDP messages (packets) cross the network in independent units.
* Unreliable - When a message is sent, it cannot be known if it will reach its destination; it could get lost along the way. There is no concept of acknowledgment, retransmission and timeout. * Not ordered - If two messages are sent to the same recipient, the order in which they arrive cannot be predicted.
* Lightweight - There is no ordering of messages, no tracking connections, etc. It is a small transport layer designed on top of IP.
* Datagrams - Packets are sent individually and are guaranteed to be whole if they arrive. Packets have definite bounds and no split or merge into data streams may exist.
See your stupid. The Reason to use UDP is to speed up transfer they already only use TCP for transport as they have their own internal network layer that wraps up sends over tcp and then disassembles it on the other side. I can't tell you how many other MMO's do it this way but its pretty much all of them.
Ah, written by a goon, that explains why they defeated the point of going AROUND TCP?!
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Tiquortres
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Posted - 2008.06.25 00:51:00 -
[430]
You really have to love Eve. The Eve message boards are like the long ago, mostly lost, days of Usenet. A whole bunch of people talking about things they know nothing about or augmenting the holes in their knowledge with an uncanny ability to be incorrect, but damn sure of it. lol
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Hiro Nagumo
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Posted - 2008.06.25 01:09:00 -
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I have had no issues in northern california at all. I guess comcast rocks.
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Sijian Saibo
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Posted - 2008.06.25 01:54:00 -
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I have been dealing with dc's for over 2 months now, i have 2 accounts that I must have a friend access so that skills can be switched and some email answered. As luck would have it, as the CEO of my corporation, i had not had 15mins of connection in over 60 days and I have been waiting patiently for a fix. I have written about this on the forums and i have spent countless hours on the phone with my ISP. Strangly enough, i never have problems login on if i choose to stay awake till 3AM in the morning US Eastern Standard Time (-5 GMT) after US crowd thinned out and EU folks still sleepin.
My ISP does not use LimeLight in its routing path, goes from ISP to qwest, to telia and then the CCP server. I am tired of fighting with CCP and my ISP for a resolution to this problem. I will wait another 7-10 days for this current issue to wash over, hoping it might bring relief to my problem as well. After that, I will give up years of EVE progress, memories and friends and get away from this customer service and tech support nightmare and close my accounts.
BTW, f u CCP. You are not being truthful about this issue. This has nothing to do with Limelight only u HAD to say something now that u have mass dc's. It was easy enough to sweep a couple of us under the rug, but now u bit down on that sh.t sandwitch that u assambled for yourselves. Bon Appetite.
Also, to all you fanbois, pacifists and other aholes that comment on a tech issue THEY are not experiencing, F U 2
P.S. I will have my friend log on in 11 days and GIVE AWAY for FREE my cap ships and other valuables, ISKs, etc. Send him/me a tell if i log in. |
Connie Dimeko
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Posted - 2008.06.25 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Connie Dimeko on 25/06/2008 02:20:26 As lucky as i have been not to have suffered a loss due to dc it may have been just that luck. If ccp and limelight want to point fingers at eachother GOOD what do we care? CCP is a fun and entertaining place but just that entertainment and when in the course of entertaing if an establishment fails to meet that need to its consumer base it has FAILED. ISK is free to make and easy to give simularly easy is the chain of evidence leading to such losses that should be recovered. while it is NOT CCP's fault as they say(IT IS ALSO NOT YOUR CUSTOMERS FAULT) the issue is still there and acting in the fashion of large flightless birds and covering heads in sand and responding sometimes rudely to your customers seems to be a bad idea but who are we to complain we just pay the bills. your program as pretty and fun as it is is only as good as the community is strong. what could it hurt to help out those injured parties? its not as if ANYTHING comes easy in eve and frankly this new age really seems to have heralded problems. each time i log in it says incomaptible patch do you want to remove and then starts over and asks to reinstall it i am not a limelight user and have blocked the isp from passive use of my pc yet still i have connection issues and i wait when can i play again? my money has beened earned thru my labor i do not spend it casually. CCP are you are starting to squander my work or will you hear our cry its just to dangerous to mission and so the boring mining and manufacturing has been my lot when will we see releif iceland when
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Hal Lubbert
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Posted - 2008.06.25 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hal Lubbert on 25/06/2008 03:29:01 I rarely post on the forums, but this is now my third ship loss since the Ageing Dieing Patch as I call it. Hell ATM im stuck in space on a gate. Had one GM tell me it was my fault, it wasnt so i got it escalated, next GM replaced only 90% of my losses saying " we can not replace any dropped items" Hell if the game worked as it was made to I wouldnt have lost anything! So replace 100% of my losses, its your fault CCP in the first place.
Not Happy, Ebay Maybe!
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Everlynnette
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Posted - 2008.06.25 03:44:00 -
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Does anyone have an idea about when this problems would be fix? I'm not into point fingers at anyone or hearing any excusing of why it not working i would just like to know when i can play my game. I thank you in advance for your help.
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Brugar
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Posted - 2008.06.25 03:50:00 -
[436]
Still. Being. Dropped.
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Crudamus
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.25 04:03:00 -
[437]
Today Hune 24th NA time. I have been crashing all the time today. And Before today, none.
Why is it now I can't keep a connection, after you disabled LIMELIGHT!
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Yonos
Game-Over The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.06.25 04:23:00 -
[438]
I KEEP GETTIGN DISCO YONOS ANGRY YONOS SMASH
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Fearsome Evil
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Posted - 2008.06.25 04:46:00 -
[439]
Well it seem's that Eve has gotten into a ****storm of bad connection's so i guess i should be happy that i can't even connect. though i can see the server say's status ok this many thousand player's bla bla well that's great but i haven't been able to log in since emp age came out and it's beginning to get a bit upsetting as all CCP say is well sorry about your bad luck and it's a problem with a isp, well im not paying a $15 a month to play a game im paying ccp and when i keep getting the message
Connection Timeout - The server did not respond to the client's secure-handshake request within a reasonable amount of time
it lead's me to believe that it mayhap's could be partly MY isp problem and partly CCP's problem as it is their server that doesn't like to shake hand's
well hope this get's fixed soon before my next cycle or i'll just cancel my sub and move on to a game that i can actually pay to PLAY
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Metal Michelle
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:12:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Michelle on 25/06/2008 05:13:32 Another day, 4 straight, of connectivity issues.
Look, I'm sure it is great to blame somebody for connectivity issues. The reality is, if those of us who were brought here by EVE's new marketing campaign, cannot log on, well... a couple hundred thousand users and an agreement with IBM to run a server does not a world-beating corporation (yeah, the real-life kind) make.
It may not be CCP's fault. However, with a big influx of users (God, I know, we all suck, except as gank fodder, we must all be whiny Americans. Or Aussies. Or from the UK, oh God, this one may have relevance).
Please fix. This game has potential, and I'm a newer player, the kind that would love FW, if only I could log on for more than 5 minutes in the past 4 days, at least long anough to train a skill?
Thanks.
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Vorpal Shock
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:14:00 -
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Hello EvE world I don't know if the problem still exists but i had a lot of disconnects this night / morning. However as i am a "luckbox", no friends or enemies in EVE...i didn't loose anything- the dc always happened while looting ^^
But i have to say i feel sorry for those guys who lost their stuff. You always take care of your ship and items- then boom. This hurts because it wasn't your fault.
In this case: Free crispy Sansha Cakes for all
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Everlynnette
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:22:00 -
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I just want to know who fault you think it is? Wait i'll help you, it my isp fault who i pay to provide me internet service and even though all other aspects of my internet working including several other internet games It's there fault right? Or no maybe it is limelight's fault for which i have no account or pay no money too?
Originally by: Laydee But anyway; I know and you should all accept/realise that CCP can NOT control the routes; thats like saying that this _gym_ can control the roads that lead to their premises. Sure they can place themselves in propitious locations, but I doubt that anyone can say that putting their cluster at london Telehouse was a *bad* or shortsighted idea; I mean seriously ? Come on!
Your comparing to things that aren't relevant to each other. The roads aren't the issue here because there not vital/essential part of the gym running, but if the equipment fails to be operating the gym can't say we didn't make the equipment so it not are problem. That why people are ****ed.
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Metal Michelle
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:29:00 -
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Yeah, as Ever said:
I've played many MMO games, and never seen a community turn on its players like this (well, WoW aside.) What, we don't put in our time to play? What, we don't know what character building takes here? We do, so calling many people whiners is understandably off-putting.
With WoW having 10 Million plus players, it will take many hundreds of thousands to compete. I'm new to this community, but being inclusive can only help everyone: a larger player base is good fr a lot of reasons, especially knowing that CCP isn't as concerned about dumbing its product down as Blizzard, et. al. may have been.
I contend that folks are only mad because we like this Universe and we want it to WORK.
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Rokaan
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:46:00 -
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Thank you and well done CCP!
Since you dropped limelight, I haven't disconned once and my path to server is now 16 hops instead of 23 or 24.
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Lithia Tsanov
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:54:00 -
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To attempt to answer a couple frequently asked questions in the thread:
1: If CCP disabled their connection to limelite, why am I still getting disconnects?
Answer: It is entirely possible that you are still hitting the limelite network between you and CCP. All that CCP can do is disable the connection on their end. So wheras the old connection was....
you-->YourISP-->Limelite-->CCP
It may now be:
you-->Your ISP-->Limelite-->Someotherprovider-->CCP
2: Since CCP disabled their connection to limelite, I am unable to connect at all.
This means that either your ISP or limelite is not routing to another backbone provider, or does not have a route to the backbone provider that CCP has failed over to (the latter is your ISP's fault, or the fault of an intermediate backbone provider)
you-->YourISP-->Limelite-->nowhere or you-->YourISP-->nowhere
To see where your packets are going, use the traceroute command (I believe it is called tracert under legacy operating systems).
Sorry to the NE's out there for dumbing this down so much, but people "really" don't know about this stuff, and it's hard to understand the first time you encounter it. To all you non-NE's out there. This occurrence is not unusual. What "is" unusual is for a backbone provider not to have it fixed by now. In my experience dealing with providers, I usually have to "prove" to them that it is their problem and show them exactly what has changed, when it happened, etc... It's a tedious business.
LT What is an OTAL? |
Alex Under
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.06.25 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rokaan Thank you and well done CCP!
Since you dropped limelight, I haven't disconned once and my path to server is now 16 hops instead of 23 or 24.
Same here. It's been nice the past 2 days since they dropped their connection to Limelight.   
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Siouxsie Xai
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.06.25 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker I lost a head full of implants and worst of all, a beautiful new Rifter! What really stung was that some Minmatarian FW player got my pod. Nobody's ever gotten my pod. Someday Joe Starbreaker corpses are going to be worth billions as collector items, and some jerk got a free one courtesy of the "ISP" failure. CCP answer my petition already!
I hope that the petition bit is a joke?
It isn't a CCP issue, they are not responsible for your connection to the server - not petitionable.
If a loss can be shown as a result of lag or disconnect. It is a viable petition regardless who is at fault. I lost about 15 mill in t2 drones due to DC. I did not petition but I am sure I would get the drones back if I did petition it. 15 mill is just not a lot of ISK to me anymore so that is why I make no attempt to recover the loss. IF I lost my fully rigged and near full t2 outfitted typhoon on the other hand.... yeah Id be making a petition. It is a not their fault and not your fault situation that only a bank would refuse to reimburse. :P
I consider the missing pleasure hub interior a bug.. even if it is not. Please fix it. :P |
Airtrooper Appleby
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Posted - 2008.06.25 11:01:00 -
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i dont seem to be having DC problems thankfully and im based in the UK
i also work for BT Broadband and have not seen a increase in Tech support calls for this problem
is this a problem thats affecting the US
or the UK to, if its affecting UK players i will bet your ISP uses WLR3 fully unbundled lines and provide a LLU broadband service, as far as i know BT Wholesale dont use LimeLight
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Towelieban
DOOMSDAY.
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Posted - 2008.06.25 11:18:00 -
[449]
i still get the disconnects but usually only happens after a minimum of 30 minutes. but it still get very annoying when you have to log back in in the middle of a pvp session :/
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ColdheartedKilla
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Posted - 2008.06.25 11:18:00 -
[450]
everytime ccp fix something it breaks something else probably time to give up
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