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Supersnowprs
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:29:00 -
[541] - Quote
First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training). -A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.) -What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.
As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength. But ccp, these changes are too much. Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.
"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)
So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated. Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.) -Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.) So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on. -That locks slower than a sieged dread. -Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread -Can lock as many targets as that dread -Tracks as well as that dread. -And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).
Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.
Point here -5 scan rez is too slow -only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid -The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2550
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:31:00 -
[542] - Quote
Supersnowprs wrote:First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training). -A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.) -What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.
As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength. But ccp, these changes are too much. Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.
"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)
So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated. Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.) -Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.) So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on. -That locks slower than a sieged dread. -Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread -Can lock as many targets as that dread -Tracks as well as that dread. -And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).
Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.
Point here -5 scan rez is too slow -only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid -The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.
I bet you think that 50 escorted freighters have to be run from Jita to your CSAA every time a titan is built "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:31:00 -
[543] - Quote
I've had an erection for 28 pages now |

Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:31:00 -
[544] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:
Congrats, you've descended to the level of tinfoil hat wearing pubbies
Hey, the truth sucks, but its still the truth, you have an ex alliance member as one of the head design guys for the game. Sounds totally legit.
You must forgive Grath. After all, his famous opening quote from the Mintchiplol Series Collection is "Hi, hi, I'm Grath, kill whitey, I hate the government". He may be predisposed to fantasies of vast right wing conspiracies. |

Krystal Flores
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:31:00 -
[545] - Quote
Andski wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Oh and CCP be sure to change the message for new players:
Join a coalition that can field 1000 dudes or more or don't bother trying to play at all. Better than telling them "don't bother going to 0.0 until you can fly a titan" tbh I can't fly a titan yet i am useful in all fleets, cause you know, Our TItans use support fleets. |

Machine Delta
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:32:00 -
[546] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:Durr Hurrr Durr wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Oh and CCP be sure to change the message for new players:
Join a coalition that can field 1000 dudes or more or don't bother trying to play at all. Oh hi Grath!! You mad?  Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?
But is that even true? U are saying this but how does this specifically help one side? There are lots of people in my alliance building / training for supercaps. They are going to be hurt by this as well.
Have you considered that this nerf might be good for all sides? Unless you just think its a conspiracy between goons and CCP. Really though I am starting to think that may actually be true. Then again I just don't know if we can take you seriously. |

BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
19
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:32:00 -
[547] - Quote
Supersnowprs wrote:First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training). -A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.) -What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.
As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength. But ccp, these changes are too much. Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.
"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)
So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated. Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.) -Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.) So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on. -That locks slower than a sieged dread. -Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread -Can lock as many targets as that dread -Tracks as well as that dread. -And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).
Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.
Point here -5 scan rez is too slow -only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid -The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.
OOoo the roll player angle.I like it! |

Venus Vermillion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
413
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:32:00 -
[548] - Quote
For all those poor widdwe "X accounts canceled" pubbies...
You're not very convincing. We'll believe you when we see the screenshots of you step by step self-destructing your space coffins and destroying your stuff - giving it away isn't even proof because your other account will just give it back.
If yer gunna quit? Make it real. Otherwise, just keep paying your :tenbux: like everyone else. |

Travis Wells
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
223
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:34:00 -
[549] - Quote
Supersnowprs wrote:First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training). -A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.) -What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.
As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength. But ccp, these changes are too much. Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.
"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)
So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated. Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.) -Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.) So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on. -That locks slower than a sieged dread. -Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread -Can lock as many targets as that dread -Tracks as well as that dread. -And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).
Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.
Point here -5 scan rez is too slow -only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid -The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.
You couldn't even bother using an npc alt with an avatar? |

BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
19
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:34:00 -
[550] - Quote
Venus Vermillion wrote:For all those poor widdwe "X accounts canceled" pubbies...
You're not very convincing. We'll believe you when we see the screenshots of you step by step self-destructing your space coffins and destroying your stuff - giving it away isn't even proof because your other account will just give it back.
If yer gunna quit? Make it real. Otherwise, just keep paying your :tenbux: like everyone else.
Ya biomass or STFU. :) |

Mhyn Teregone
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:34:00 -
[551] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?
Your alliance has two members on CSM6 who have been party to every single conversation on this subject .. you should really bring this allegation up with them. |

Lord Thorin
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:35:00 -
[552] - Quote
Incredible that CCP just play into Goon hands!
Lets just call the game "Goons Online" and be done with it. I don't know how goons and others can cry nerf when it's the only way some alliances can counter the huge numbers that can be thrown into one system at any time. They gimp the titan tank by fitting mods to kill subcaps, so therefore take a huge risk to field them in the first place.
TIDI was introduced to deal with large numbers of people therefore making alpha more prevalent, this helped certain alpha fleets and reduced the effectiveness of others....
Just because some alliances have the balls to drop Titans and Supers onto other fleets, why can't the other alliances escalate like the game is intended?
Unbelievable response by CCP and just another move that proves they don't understand how eve works anymore. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2550
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:35:00 -
[553] - Quote
better yet, give me your "useless" titan and so I can use it uselessly "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Rydis
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:35:00 -
[554] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:I've had an erection for 28 pages now
I too, have had an erection at least as long except these balls, they hurt.
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
12
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:35:00 -
[555] - Quote
Cedo Nulli wrote: Its like Deathstar rolling around with only its main planetdestroying weapon and nothing else.
Wasn't the first deathstar destroyed by the star wars equivalent of rifters with torpedos? The second deathstar had a giant hole right through to the middile of it [it took 2 ships and a bunch of small furry teddybears on a technium moon to blow that one up]. And both took years to build and multiple people to crew and staff. |

Carl Albanit
Ponto Final
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:36:00 -
[556] - Quote
CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....
Seems Legit
*tactical facepalm* |

Achaiah7
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:36:00 -
[557] - Quote
The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs? |

Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Elite Space Guild
24
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:36:00 -
[558] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:
Obviously this is Soundwave trying to milk what he can out of a dying old game for his old allaince and nothing more, but guys, guys, it was bad when it was T20 that was doing this for his alliance.
THIS IS WHAT PUBBIES ACTUALLY BELIEVE |

Wirbin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:37:00 -
[559] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:
Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?
lmbo they are nerfing the heck out of the big basket your dumb alliance put all of its eggs into! http://i.imgur.com/Zjwo4.gif |

mama guru
Evolution
30
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:37:00 -
[560] - Quote
Stop whining.
I did not **** and moan when I could no longer fit 7 Heatsinks on my Geddon and get away with it.
CCP has a history of nerfing stuff that is hillariously gamebreaking. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2559
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:38:00 -
[561] - Quote
Carl Albanit wrote:CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....
Seems Legit
*tactical facepalm*
No, it's better by a margin. A supercarrier can't field 150 fighters simply because it costs 15 times as much as a carrier. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Krzdr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:38:00 -
[562] - Quote
death2supercaps |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2559
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:39:00 -
[563] - Quote
mama guru wrote:Stop whining.
I did not **** and moan when I could no longer fit 7 Heatsinks on my Geddon and get away with it.
CCP has a history of nerfing stuff that is hillariously gamebreaking.
EVOL guy telling his ex alliance mates to suck it up
this thread gets better and better "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Khadmos
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Fatal Ascension
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:40:00 -
[564] - Quote
Best change ever!
I was pretty excited when they removed AOE DD, going 20 jumps in a 250+ BS fleet only to instantly die because 3 titans logged in at the target system was SUPER DUPER FUN AND BALANCED.
Unfortunately, nothing changed all that much. Still doesn't matter what ships you bring or how many people, the only real difference is it's 40 titans instead of 3 and it takes a bit longer for everyone to die.
When they get around to the full revamp I'm sure they'll reduce the cost a bit so you can stop crying that the cost justifies being unbalanced. |

Mhyn Teregone
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:40:00 -
[565] - Quote
Carl Albanit wrote:CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....
Seems Legit
*tactical facepalm* I'll happily take on your three billion isk ship in my 100 billion isk ship, hell, bring ten of your friends.
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mama guru
Evolution
30
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:40:00 -
[566] - Quote
Andski wrote:Carl Albanit wrote:CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....
Seems Legit
*tactical facepalm* No, it's better by a margin. A supercarrier can't field 150 fighters simply because it costs 15 times as much as a carrier.
I for one would love for my megathron to do 10k DPS and one volley anything just like 15 thoraxes can. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
19
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:40:00 -
[567] - Quote
I dont know why, but in the back of my mind I keep hearing munchkins singing "Ding Dong the witch is dead". |

Machine Delta
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:40:00 -
[568] - Quote
Lord Thorin wrote:Incredible that CCP just play into Goon hands!
Lets just call the game "Goons Online" and be done with it. I don't know how goons and others can cry nerf when it's the only way some alliances can counter the huge numbers that can be thrown into one system at any time. They gimp the titan tank by fitting mods to kill subcaps, so therefore take a huge risk to field them in the first place.
TIDI was introduced to deal with large numbers of people therefore making alpha more prevalent, this helped certain alpha fleets and reduced the effectiveness of others....
Just because some alliances have the balls to drop Titans and Supers onto other fleets, why can't the other alliances escalate like the game is intended?
Unbelievable response by CCP and just another move that proves they don't understand how eve works anymore.
Because some alliances... Yours mainly, end up doing this with all the titans and supers on one side. Ever wonder why you lose every fight under a cynojammer?
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Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
724
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:41:00 -
[569] - Quote
Carl Albanit wrote:CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....
Seems Legit
*tactical facepalm*
Having 20 times the EHP is clearly worst.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |

Takashi Kaeda
Perkone Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:41:00 -
[570] - Quote
Hey Grath can I sell you some tinfoil?
Better yet, I will just trade you the tinfoil for your worthless Titan(s). |
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