Really? they had the stamina to topple the Northern coalition across 5 regions, but not the Goons in Deklein?

Here's a though,

Keep the lock timer the same, and triple the sig size of carriers and dreads + supers. What would that negatively impact?

Since all guns should be able to capitals, including super caps vs capitals, just blow up the sig size. Right now, MWD based drakes, and battleships have similar sizes to capitals ships...

This is the problem, and a simple solution. Everything else is very reasonable in this context. However, titans should not take 30 seconds to lock a carrier or a dread, it should be almost instant.

Too bad you can't outrange 1200mm arties, oh wait you can.
Too bad you can't orbit with more than 0.016 rad/sec to beat tracking, oh wait you can.
Too bad you can't drop your fleet out of range or just on top of them, oh wait you can.
Too bad you can't use bombs in nullsec, oh wait you can.

Do I need to go on?

There is no unbeatable fleet doctrine but you might want to turn your brains on before you blap the forums :>

How are these titans tackling you guys? No chance in hell I would get in point range of one, much less scram and web.

you are all missing main point of current game mechanics that is broken.
Every fleet based on numbers has it's counter based on SP and ISK. Bringing 100 rifters with logistics will be countered by bringing 20 vagabonds with less logistics.
So let's assume Fleet A is T1 frigate, Fleet B is Hacs, Fleet C is battleships. So every fleet can be countered by fleet of less size but higher SP, u can always field something that requires less numbers but more SP/ISK and that something will be only like 1 rank higher then hostile fleet .
This is how it looks like: frigs > cruisers > BCs > BS > Capitals > Supercapitals > Titans. Current mechanics is good up intil BS. there is a huuuuuge gap between BS and titan. U can say that capitals are under powered and that's why they are not used or state that titans and supers are overpowered and should be nerfed. In any case this is not solving major issue - Gap between BS and a Titan. Fill that missing point and game become much better.

I've to admit - CCP Sucks in game balance. I remember same way ppl where whining about atlas capitals, so ccp created another ship to counter them. After ppl were whining about supers, now titans. in any case tweaking 1 certain ship will never fix game. If you want to fix something to and review all ships that are affected by tracking titans. I would also say that Signature stuff is kinda bullshit, ship size doesn't change by turning MWD on. So how can missile do more damage to same ship w MWD on and less damage w MWD off?

No, counter blob of titan with Sieged dreads (still needs a buff) and support fleet.

Can someone explain to me in simple terms what is going on here?

Two power blocks swinging their purses at each other pretty much. Nothing new to see really.

looks like you really don't understand my point or u just don't want to understand what I'm talking about. Once again I'm saying that there is a gap that should be filled. removing a role from ship and leaving that role empty is silly.

Hahaha. Ok, so you never fought a bunch of titans, we get it.

Should I stop playing eve because of this change? I want to be able to do cool stuff when I have more skills and some people seem to be saying that the game is useless now because of this. It is really making me nervous.

Nah, don't quit the game. Just stay out of null space till CCP addresses the real problems there. Broken game mechanics that encourage super power blocks.

I'd actually strongly advise against this (staying out of null, that is. I agree EVE is worth playing - I still do).

Basically, as it stands, this is a lot of bluster over changes to the largest and most expensive ship in the game. As it stands, 3 of the 4 versions of that ship are capable of killing any number of others (hundreds, thousands), when brought in numbers of 20 or more. There are 800+ active in the game, and more made every day. There are a few groups that think this is fine, and the rest of us that feel this make EVE less fun for everyone else not flying one of these expensive ships.

Basically, don't stay out of null sec. Join a group, either a large one, or a small one, and get out there and shoot people. There are groups out there willing to take on new players, and with them you can experience some of the fun and unique parts of EVE. This shouldn't impact your gameplay experience.

And these numbers are all calculated with TRIPLE cormack sensor boosters? Which are 10b each atm and will surely go up?

So you are saying that 30bil, or about half the build cost of a titan in sensor boosters is a reasonable investment in titans for a 10 second gain in lock time that still comes out to over half a minute, or about triple the warp speed of a maelstrom.

You are a funny dude :)

Just as any other nerf players will have to adapt to what CCP has for them.Drone nerf from supercarriers,now another titan nerf,tomorrow a tengu nerf because the worse side of players cant field 500+ everyday to blap them and who knows what else.

For over a year i am watching goons crying for various things in game,all of them having to do with them dying over and over..
CCP has already chose the side that will be supported.You have to be realistic about it and move on just as every other nerf(aka goon boosts).

For some players,this game has to do with planning,gaining ISK,spending them to buy new toys,buy new characters like this character created back in 2003 and is used a an "alt" from a 2008 player.Getting "better" in this game is different for all of us.

Lets just take CCP's place for a moment.They have 2 conflicting sides in this game.The one that seeks in game improvement and the other side that is heavily roleplaying and counts on it to play.I ve been in other games before EVE and if CCP doesnt take steps to sustain the roleplaying side the game will die itself.Most of you will propably say that goons should "gtfo and send ISK" before they do but here is the problem:the typical goon grunt doesnt have ISK to give.

What they do have though is real life money wich is what keeps this game ticking.So yeah,dont expect any counter to blob,the future has more and more things to favour them.So we are now in that tear circle where the worse players cry because they lose and the better players have to adapt everytime CCP is boosting.

Lets see whats next to be nerfed

And these numbers are all calculated with TRIPLE cormack sensor boosters? Which are 10b each atm and will surely go up?



No no man hes not funny. He is reta*rded. Much as anyone in CCP who don't see significance in shooting yourself in a foot in order to fix small cut on your little finger.

No. I'm just a bit confused how titans are able to tackle you guys when you said they didn't bring any support. With all those officer sensor boosters and officer tracking computers, is there room for tackle too?

Why doesnt CCP just get rid of all the ship costs and make us all fly rifters.

why is the noname worthless empiredweller trying to talk about nullsec warfare

Call me a concerned citizen. And I find it rather surprising that you still havent been able to cough up a good lie to explain why it is that the CFC havent been kicked out of nullsec long ago, despite your adversaries holding the supposedly undefeatable "iWin" button for more than a year.

Call me a concerned citizen. And I find it rather surprising that you still havent been able to cough up a good lie to explain why it is that the CFC havent been kicked out of nullsec long ago, despite your adversaries holding the supposedly undefeatable "iWin" button for more than a year.

Because everyone else is a coward and terrified of losing even a single one of their overcompensation devices.

So goon mains claim we used them too much as iWin buttons and goonalts say we are afraid of using them. Better make up your mind.