Let's try this another way. I am playing a 1v1 match in Starcraft 2. My opponent is down to his last SCV and I am just about to kill it, when my opponent disconnects.

EVE would record this as no win for me , no loss for my opponent and basically as if nothing has ever happened
Every other "real" competitive game on the planet records this as a win for me and a loss for my opponent

ah no...because your opponent aggressed you would get a "win".. if he logged off before aggression then it is like he quit at lobby before your game even started :)

you can force a logoffski by just logging in an alt on the same account. because you have 2 people in space on one account the server disappears the non logged in character from space.

Now that, that I can see being something effective. More so with the new loader. Setting up a second client will get you a drop if it lasts more than a minute or so but if I know I am going to jump in to a low sec I can load the client before I jump, if it's camped I can log the account in and be in game before you pop any kind of ship with a tank.

This is even more messed up and more proof that the current way the timers work is incorrect.

And there is no easy button fix.
They could put in a session timer that makes you wait to log the account back in but the truth, like it or not is that most genuine deconnects happen in mission PvE. If they add a session timer, mission runners are booked, they have no option but to wait untill thier ship dies before they can log back in. From a selfish perspective you could say screw mission runners, let them lose thier ships to diconnects but really thats a road CCP won't take.

It really freaking is isnt it.

This is just mindbogglingly bad over site as far as I can tell.

If i dont have 50 guys in BCs and BSes that can tank gate guns we cant gank a freighter is what it comes down too.

Laying the trap like we did was worthless cause we had to be right there on gate from the start to make sure it died before the timer. That window of opportunity is freaking too small. Its just asinine to say the least cause it basically prevents us from setting up any traps. All your DPS must be on gate when it jumps through basically. We even avoided the scout of the guy by moving around a lot so he would feel safe enough to jump in!

Its utter rubbish that this is in game and possible.

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Also getting DCed in a mission is part of the risk. There are ships that can cover that problem if it happens. So yeah by all means screw mission runners if thats the argument you are trying to make.

The OH NO i dced argument is really a non starter and terrible standpoint. Dont play online MMOs if its that much of an issue for you. End of story.

If a ship gets disconnected before it escapes gate cloak, was it ever really there?

You are chasing ghosts and apparitions.

People should be allowed log off from the game any time they wish and it was within the game mechanic that he disappeared cause he was agressed after he logged off and you missed the kill.

If you don't like people logging off, then don't play online MMOs if its that much of an issue for you. End of story.

Stop being a baby, deal with it and move on.

Hey, did you know the forum mods can see IP addresses? I bet it looks pretty goofy to them seeing some guy talk to himself on a alt. =D

Yeah Cheating with Exploits is totally cool guys. They should never have stopped the moon goo and orca tricks cause they were totally in game things that worked according to the mechanics.

Yeah how about NO, get real.

you don't want to pvp don't play eve

Yeah Cheating with Exploits is totally cool guys. They should never have stopped the moon goo and orca tricks cause they were totally in game things that worked according to the mechanics.

Yeah how about NO, get real.

Why are you saying it's an exploit when CCP have CLEARLY said it NOT an exploit since it's normal game mechanics on what you did do and what the Freighter pilot did do?

And the fact that the Freighter is available for one minute anyways, that says he's not invinsible at all. He would die in a fire no matter what he would do if you could have used more DPS.

Things are getting a bit heated in this thread, so I wanted to say that while I can't give a definitive answer to the question of this behaviour changing or not, I can promise to raise it tomorrow morning with the design guys and get an answer for you.

People should not be allowed to log off to save their ship end of

you know at downtime it says please make yourself safe etc etc

i see lots of whiners about this but its clear that you are the ones doing it and and thast why you are disagreeing or your just that sad you like to argue

i know its hard to work around it and find a fix but it needs done i have seen peopel log off to save them selves hundreds of times over the years its used as a tatic a dev actually explained to me how a frighetr pilot done it to me

logging off and fagwarp need to be fixed you don't want to pvp don't play eve

Seems they did not know it was being used in this way. They have not decided yet. But its clearly an exploit of the rules in a way they were not intended.

He didn't by ANY means says that's an exploit with his comment, and thus, you can't say it's an exploit either.

Does this current mechanic needs to be changed?

Maybe, but calling it an exploit by current mechanics isn't right.

Maybe, but calling it an exploit by current mechanics isn't right.

It is an exploit if the end result is contrary to what what the game designers intended with the mechanic. That is why webing someone so they can't warp is an exploit but MWD+cloak is not. It is that simple really.

I said its an exploit. He said they will look at it.

CLOSE ENOUGH.

Odds are they didnt know you cheating losers were using it like this.

And exploit is when you take advantage of the rules in a way they were not intended.

This is very much and exploit.

There is 2 totally different things than calling something an exploit just because things didn't work your way than saying CCP will look into it to improve it or make it better.

I dont need their conformation to know its an Exploit. Just the fact that they have to LOOK AT IT says a lot in regards.

Even if they say its OK later. Still is an exploitation of the games mechanics.

It never stops being an exploit.